URM Daughter Rushing at UVA or VT

[Anonymous]

Just randomly searched sororities at VT and here are some pictures - if that's what you need to judge "diversity."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'd have her do some homework on the origins of Greek life in the US ASAP. It's painfully offensive stuff. I would hope that the average White person would have zero interest in perpetuating the Greek system. And a Black or Latino who thinks this is okay? SMH. https://www.propublica.org/article/ole-miss-students-pose-with-guns-in-front-of-shot-up-emmett-till-memorial And you're talking about her joining these people at a school located in the state where the capitol of the confederacy was literally located. Wake up, OP! https://blog.royalhistsoc.org/2021/07/28/why-historically-white-sororities-and-fraternities-are-racially-problematic-in-us-universities/

As for getting a bid, if she looks like Selena Gomez or Penelope Cruz, she likely won't have a problem. Everyone will just treat her like a fellow conventionally pretty White girl. If she's got the coloring and body type of America Ferrara, she probably will have trouble, unless they decide to hold her up as a token of their wokeness.

The other thing to consider is that her fellow POC students will not look positively upon her pandering to join the Hellenic types who make POC feel unwelcome and excluded on the campuses of UVA and VT. And the non-clueless White students will also look askance at it. Remember that the "You will not replace us" rally took place in Charlottesville. https://www.vogue.com/article/uva-after-charlottesville-attack

"Fellow POC students" like these? You are ridiculous.

http://virginia.sigmakappa.org/
https://virginia.kappadelta.org/

[Anonymous]

Historically black sororities:

https://www.campusexplorer.com/student-resources/black-sororities/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If she would African-American, I would say she had a choice between the traditionally African-American sororities and the “white” ones.

Put being Hispanic, and I don’t mean this very disrespectfully, if she’s a student at UVA Virginia Tech, most people will assume she’s white and she’s Hispanic and doesn’t have an accent.

If she’s interested in rushing, she should know that it’s a costly commitment and it’s really about paying to be in a social club and to be in a group of friends. It can be very fun, and very social outing and party oriented, but there is usually a heavy focus on drinking and going to fraternity parties. Only 35% UVA is Greek, but when I was there in the 90s it felt like every social event was related to the fraternities and sororities.

Ask about the costs too. They are not insignificant.

You obviously weren't in a sorority at UVA and you're still smarting about it.

Incorrect, I was in one. By senior year, most of my friends realized we weren’t getting much out of paying the hundreds of dollars a semester for being in one. I had several friends deactivate to try and stop paying too. (I did not)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If she would African-American, I would say she had a choice between the traditionally African-American sororities and the “white” ones.

Put being Hispanic, and I don’t mean this very disrespectfully, if she’s a student at UVA Virginia Tech, most people will assume she’s white and she’s Hispanic and doesn’t have an accent.

If she’s interested in rushing, she should know that it’s a costly commitment and it’s really about paying to be in a social club and to be in a group of friends. It can be very fun, and very social outing and party oriented, but there is usually a heavy focus on drinking and going to fraternity parties. Only 35% UVA is Greek, but when I was there in the 90s it felt like every social event was related to the fraternities and sororities.

Ask about the costs too. They are not insignificant.

You obviously weren't in a sorority at UVA and you're still smarting about it.

Incorrect, I was in one. By senior year, most of my friends realized we weren’t getting much out of paying the hundreds of dollars a semester for being in one. I had several friends deactivate to try and stop paying too. (I did not)

DP. I'm curious about this - if my daughter decides to rush and join a sorority but realizes it's not for her, is it easy enough to "deactivate," or leave? How do you do that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If she would African-American, I would say she had a choice between the traditionally African-American sororities and the “white” ones.

Put being Hispanic, and I don’t mean this very disrespectfully, if she’s a student at UVA Virginia Tech, most people will assume she’s white and she’s Hispanic and doesn’t have an accent.

If she’s interested in rushing, she should know that it’s a costly commitment and it’s really about paying to be in a social club and to be in a group of friends. It can be very fun, and very social outing and party oriented, but there is usually a heavy focus on drinking and going to fraternity parties. Only 35% UVA is Greek, but when I was there in the 90s it felt like every social event was related to the fraternities and sororities.

Ask about the costs too. They are not insignificant.

You obviously weren't in a sorority at UVA and you're still smarting about it.

Incorrect, I was in one. By senior year, most of my friends realized we weren’t getting much out of paying the hundreds of dollars a semester for being in one. I had several friends deactivate to try and stop paying too. (I did not)

Of course you can deactivate. You're not locked in for life if you don't want to be, but once you're out, you're out. There is also about a 6-8 week pledging period that allows them to judge for themselves before they are initiated as well. You can easily drop then with no effort.

DP. I'm curious about this - if my daughter decides to rush and join a sorority but realizes it's not for her, is it easy enough to "deactivate," or leave? How do you do that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'd have her do some homework on the origins of Greek life in the US ASAP. It's painfully offensive stuff. I would hope that the average White person would have zero interest in perpetuating the Greek system. And a Black or Latino who thinks this is okay? SMH. https://www.propublica.org/article/ole-miss-students-pose-with-guns-in-front-of-shot-up-emmett-till-memorial And you're talking about her joining these people at a school located in the state where the capitol of the confederacy was literally located. Wake up, OP! https://blog.royalhistsoc.org/2021/07/28/why-historically-white-sororities-and-fraternities-are-racially-problematic-in-us-universities/

As for getting a bid, if she looks like Selena Gomez or Penelope Cruz, she likely won't have a problem. Everyone will just treat her like a fellow conventionally pretty White girl. If she's got the coloring and body type of America Ferrara, she probably will have trouble, unless they decide to hold her up as a token of their wokeness.

The other thing to consider is that her fellow POC students will not look positively upon her pandering to join the Hellenic types who make POC feel unwelcome and excluded on the campuses of UVA and VT. And the non-clueless White students will also look askance at it. Remember that the "You will not replace us" rally took place in Charlottesville. https://www.vogue.com/article/uva-after-charlottesville-attack

"Fellow POC students" like these? You are ridiculous.

http://virginia.sigmakappa.org/
https://virginia.kappadelta.org/

These two happen to just be two examples of quite diverse sororities at UVA. There are several others. It's literally just the top ones, Kappa Kappa Gamma, Tri-delt and Theta that tend to be less diverse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just randomly searched sororities at VT and here are some pictures - if that's what you need to judge "diversity."

boy what a sea of whiteness

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just randomly searched sororities at VT and here are some pictures - if that's what you need to judge "diversity."

boy what a sea of whiteness

Virginia Demographics
According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of Virginiawas:

White: 66.32%
Black or African American: 19.05%
Asian: 6.70%
Two or more races: 4.77%
Other race: 2.83%
Native American: 0.27%
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.07%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just randomly searched sororities at VT and here are some pictures - if that's what you need to judge "diversity."

boy what a sea of whiteness

Self segregation

[Anonymous]

Wait until a Lia Thomas decides to Rush!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just randomly searched sororities at VT and here are some pictures - if that's what you need to judge "diversity."

boy what a sea of whiteness

I'm thinking you're being sarcastic? Because there are plenty of POC in those pictures.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just randomly searched sororities at VT and here are some pictures - if that's what you need to judge "diversity."

boy what a sea of whiteness

I'm thinking you're being sarcastic? Because there are plenty of POC in those pictures.

Of course I am

[Anonymous]

it’s august if 2022. She has net even applied much less been accepted to either. Why are you posting?

[Anonymous]

Op your daughter isn’t rushing either school because she’s not even been accepted yet. Stop starting race busting threads like this