Peer Colleges

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is what rankings should be based on, instead of the lists DCUM likes to make. Wake Forest and Liberty University are the only private that chose UVA as a peer. Very telling.

But Harvard didn't chose MIT as a peer. You don't think these schools are the same level?

Harvard thinks it is on par with MIT - MIT doesn't think about Harvard, at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Of all the schools you could look into, you picked Georgetown then reported back here. Why? You didn't point out that Notre Dame also only had two peer institution choose it back, and neither that did are top 10. I mean, who do you think are peer institutions of a selective, urban, medium-sized, Jesuit university?

BC, Villanova, Providence

BC
Georgetown, Brandies, NYU are matches
Bowdoin, Lehigh, Boston U, Northeastern, Baylor, American, etc(lesser schools) chose BC but BC did not reciprocate.

Villanova
Fordham, University of San Diego are matches
St. johns, Elon, Hampton University, Bucknell, Babson, etc(lesser schools) chose Villanova but they did not reciprocate

Providence
Providence chose no peers
Clark, Loyola Maryland, Seton Hall, Ithica College, Etc(lesser schools) chose Providence

Who did VT and W&M choose as matches? Not to argue it, just out of curiosity.

The Virginia schools have a list of peer schools that are approved by the State Council of Higher Education. They are used to evaluate faculty pay and as an input to budget recommendations. The objective is to have average faculty salaries at the 60th percentile of peer schools. Most are short of the 60th percentile. In so far as the schools can influence the list, it is in their best interest to get peer schools approved that pay high salaries.

https://research.schev.edu/policytools/peergroups.asp

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Of all the schools you could look into, you picked Georgetown then reported back here. Why? You didn't point out that Notre Dame also only had two peer institution choose it back, and neither that did are top 10. I mean, who do you think are peer institutions of a selective, urban, medium-sized, Jesuit university?


BC, Villanova, Providence

I didn’t go to Georgetown but think it’s a fantastic school. There is clearly a basher on this thread who disagrees. In no universe is Providence or even Villanova an academic or reputational peer of Georgetown.

+1

No kidding. Sop obvious!

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of all the schools you could look into, you picked Georgetown then reported back here. Why? You didn't point out that Notre Dame also only had two peer institution choose it back, and neither that did are top 10. I mean, who do you think are peer institutions of a selective, urban, medium-sized, Jesuit university?

BC, Villanova, Providence

BC
Georgetown, Brandies, NYU are matches
Bowdoin, Lehigh, Boston U, Northeastern, Baylor, American, etc(lesser schools) chose BC but BC did not reciprocate.

Villanova
Fordham, University of San Diego are matches
St. johns, Elon, Hampton University, Bucknell, Babson, etc(lesser schools) chose Villanova but they did not reciprocate

Providence
Providence chose no peers
Clark, Loyola Maryland, Seton Hall, Ithica College, Etc(lesser schools) chose Providence

Who did VT and W&M choose as matches? Not to argue it, just out of curiosity.

The Virginia schools have a list of peer schools that are approved by the State Council of Higher Education. They are used to evaluate faculty pay and as an input to budget recommendations. The objective is to have average faculty salaries at the 60th percentile of peer schools. Most are short of the 60th percentile. In so far as the schools can influence the list, it is in their best interest to get peer schools approved that pay high salaries.

https://research.schev.edu/policytools/peergroups.asp

This is why Virginia public schools don't have each other listed (e.g. VT choosing UVA as a peer) even though they are the most obvious competitors for state students to enroll. SCHEV doesn't want them competing against each other for benchmarking purposes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is what rankings should be based on, instead of the lists DCUM likes to make. Wake Forest and Liberty University are the only private that chose UVA as a peer. Very telling.

What's your point? UVA sucks because Liberty chose it as a peer? Just say what you mean. Anyone with a brain knows that is asinine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what rankings should be based on, instead of the lists DCUM likes to make. Wake Forest and Liberty University are the only private that chose UVA as a peer. Very telling.

What's your point? UVA sucks because Liberty chose it as a peer? Just say what you mean. Anyone with a brain knows that is asinine.

Liberty could pick Harvard next time as a peer and pull them down from their perch. . .