Peer Colleges

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Take these lists with a huge grain of salt. It's all very self-serving and pretty meaningless. The difference between the most selective colleges and their backups are minimal, but this kind of drivel allows them to make it seem greater than it really is, just like the USNWR rankings do.

+1,, but this is a bit more valid than US news. It's from the horses mouth.

[Anonymous]

Of all the schools you could look into, you picked Georgetown then reported back here. Why? You didn't point out that Notre Dame also only had two peer institution choose it back, and neither that did are top 10. I mean, who do you think are peer institutions of a selective, urban, medium-sized, Jesuit university?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of all the schools you could look into, you picked Georgetown then reported back here. Why? You didn't point out that Notre Dame also only had two peer institution choose it back, and neither that did are top 10. I mean, who do you think are peer institutions of a selective, urban, medium-sized, Jesuit university?

Georgetown and Rice chose Notre Dame so that's 2. I know GU is Jesuit but it's a bit odd that only 1 top 25 school chose it. I feel like DCUM makes GU out to be more prestigious than it really is, especially when there are threads that say GU was better than WashU or Emory when clearly these top schools seem to think the opposite.

[Anonymous]

I don’t know - given all the DCUM posts related to Catholic schools and how they could never send their kid to one… perhaps the schools don’t list Georgetown as a peer for the sheer fact that it has a religious affiliation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Each year colleges select their peer schools and release the data to the ipdes.
Here are the top 25 schools and the other top schools that chose them as peers

Some takeaways I saw,
Most public schools get little love from privates.
Georgetown doesn't have many top peers

https://www.chronicle.com/article/who-does-your-college-think-its-peers-are?cid=gen_sign_in#id=139658

+1 The only top 25 school, I see picked GU was Brown. NYU and Tufts also picked them but aren't really top schools. That is a bit strange.

Not really. GU is best known for pre-Med, government and foreign service.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not paywalled, an account is free. But if anyone wants me to search for a school for them I can, as I have an account.

Northwestern and Chicago please

Sure, only posting top 25 matches, some schools may have matched to more
Northwestern-
Rice, Emory, Vandy, Hopkins, Cornell, WashU, UChicago, Brown

UChicago-
Upenn, Yale, Northwestern, Caltech, WashU, Cornell, Brown, Hopkins

Add Dartmouth, which listed both as peers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what rankings should be based on, instead of the lists DCUM likes to make. Wake Forest and Liberty University are the only private that chose UVA as a peer. Very telling.

But Harvard didn't chose MIT as a peer. You don't think these schools are the same level?

Harvard recognizes its own inferiority

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not paywalled, an account is free. But if anyone wants me to search for a school for them I can, as I have an account.

Northwestern and Chicago please

Sure, only posting top 25 matches, some schools may have matched to more
Northwestern-
Rice, Emory, Vandy, Hopkins, Cornell, WashU, UChicago, Brown

UChicago-
Upenn, Yale, Northwestern, Caltech, WashU, Cornell, Brown, Hopkins

Add Dartmouth, which listed both as peers.

I just looked, Dartmouth only listed U Chicago as a peer not Northwestern. However UChicago did not choose Dartmouth, thus won't be added. I also post the schools that either matched(i.e the college of subject chose said school, and said the school chose them back), or schools that choose the subject school but the subject school didn't choose back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA UNC duke Emory wake forest

UVA
UMich and UNC are a match.
Wake Forest and Bowdoin chose as a peer but UVA did not reciprocate.

UNC
UVA and UMich are a match.
Wake Forest and Bowdoin chose as a peer but UNC did not reciprocate.

Wake Forest
Tufts, William&Mary, and GWU are a match.
Bowdoin, Boston College, and Northeastern chose as a peer but Wake did not reciprocate.

Emory
Northwestern, WashU, and Vanderbilt are a match.
Carnegie Mellon, Notre Dame, Wake Forest, UNC, UVA, Bowdoin, Tufts, Umich, USC, and Boston College chose as a peer but Emory did not reciprocate

Duke
Duke chose no school as a peer and thus has no matches.
Cornell, Emory, Vanderbilt, Umich, NYU, Northwestern, UNC, Hopkins, Brown, UVA, Notre Dame, Rice, WashU, Georgetown, and many more chose as peers.

“Duke chose no school as a peer”. Lol. So Duke

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of all the schools you could look into, you picked Georgetown then reported back here. Why? You didn't point out that Notre Dame also only had two peer institution choose it back, and neither that did are top 10. I mean, who do you think are peer institutions of a selective, urban, medium-sized, Jesuit university?

BC, Villanova, Providence

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of all the schools you could look into, you picked Georgetown then reported back here. Why? You didn't point out that Notre Dame also only had two peer institution choose it back, and neither that did are top 10. I mean, who do you think are peer institutions of a selective, urban, medium-sized, Jesuit university?

Georgetown and Rice chose Notre Dame so that's 2. I know GU is Jesuit but it's a bit odd that only 1 top 25 school chose it. I feel like DCUM makes GU out to be more prestigious than it really is, especially when there are threads that say GU was better than WashU or Emory when clearly these top schools seem to think the opposite.

Just because they're not "peers" doesn't mean they're not both considered "presigious." Emory and Georgetown are very different schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of all the schools you could look into, you picked Georgetown then reported back here. Why? You didn't point out that Notre Dame also only had two peer institution choose it back, and neither that did are top 10. I mean, who do you think are peer institutions of a selective, urban, medium-sized, Jesuit university?

BC, Villanova, Providence

BC
Georgetown, Brandies, NYU are matches
Bowdoin, Lehigh, Boston U, Northeastern, Baylor, American, etc(lesser schools) chose BC but BC did not reciprocate.

Villanova
Fordham, University of San Diego are matches
St. johns, Elon, Hampton University, Bucknell, Babson, etc(lesser schools) chose Villanova but they did not reciprocate

Providence
Providence chose no peers
Clark, Loyola Maryland, Seton Hall, Ithica College, Etc(lesser schools) chose Providence

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of all the schools you could look into, you picked Georgetown then reported back here. Why? You didn't point out that Notre Dame also only had two peer institution choose it back, and neither that did are top 10. I mean, who do you think are peer institutions of a selective, urban, medium-sized, Jesuit university?

Georgetown and Rice chose Notre Dame so that's 2. I know GU is Jesuit but it's a bit odd that only 1 top 25 school chose it. I feel like DCUM makes GU out to be more prestigious than it really is, especially when there are threads that say GU was better than WashU or Emory when clearly these top schools seem to think the opposite.

Just because they're not "peers" doesn't mean they're not both considered "prestigious." Emory and Georgetown are very different schools.

Georgetown said that they thought Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell, Duke, Notre Dame, Columbia, Upenn, UChicago, Johns Hopkins, and Northwestern were peers and none of them except Brown returned the favor. Georgetown thinks very highly of itself as not even including the schools ranked around them. How could they be so off base?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of all the schools you could look into, you picked Georgetown then reported back here. Why? You didn't point out that Notre Dame also only had two peer institution choose it back, and neither that did are top 10. I mean, who do you think are peer institutions of a selective, urban, medium-sized, Jesuit university?

BC, Villanova, Providence

BC
Georgetown, Brandies, NYU are matches
Bowdoin, Lehigh, Boston U, Northeastern, Baylor, American, etc(lesser schools) chose BC but BC did not reciprocate.

Villanova
Fordham, University of San Diego are matches
St. johns, Elon, Hampton University, Bucknell, Babson, etc(lesser schools) chose Villanova but they did not reciprocate

Providence
Providence chose no peers
Clark, Loyola Maryland, Seton Hall, Ithica College, Etc(lesser schools) chose Providence

Who did VT and W&M choose as matches? Not to argue it, just out of curiosity.

[Anonymous]

Of all the schools you could look into, you picked Georgetown then reported back here. Why? You didn't point out that Notre Dame also only had two peer institution choose it back, and neither that did are top 10. I mean, who do you think are peer institutions of a selective, urban, medium-sized, Jesuit university?


BC, Villanova, Providence

I didn’t go to Georgetown but think it’s a fantastic school. There is clearly a basher on this thread who disagrees. In no universe is Providence or even Villanova an academic or reputational peer of Georgetown.