What can unattached PVS swimmer do if he wants to continue to compete ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here again ! Just wanted to update with our experience as unattached swimmer.

We did attend one PVS meet early in the season, but we have not been able to attend other PVS meets. Often we did not hear back from the hosts on questions if we could attend the meets.

The same host that let us to compete in the early season also did not respond later on.

So it is at the mercy of the host if an unattached swimmer can compete at a PVS open meet.

So we decided to give up on PVS unattached status -- there is no point to pay money to register as a PVS swimmer without a chance to compete at PVS champs

the good news is that we can compete at high school meets and we are lucky enough to compete at Metro -- and this keeps our swimcloud account active.

no regret on giving up our club swimming. self training is effective. we achieved 4 personal best times and one of them qualified PVS champs

Since he likes distances, what about some open water swims? May be much easier as I know many people who do this as unattached, even though part of our club team for PVS meets.

[Anonymous]

PP

thanks for your open water suggestion. he might be too skinny to stand in cold open water. every time during his annual physical his pediatrician tells us "he needs body fat to keep him warm". a few times he got DQ for false start due to cold shivering in meets at outdoor pools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP

thanks for your open water suggestion. he might be too skinny to stand in cold open water. every time during his annual physical his pediatrician tells us "he needs body fat to keep him warm". a few times he got DQ for false start due to cold shivering in meets at outdoor pools.

you think your swimmer got DQ'd multiple times for false start when he was shivering and had not left the deck and entered the pool???? That is highly highly unlikely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP

thanks for your open water suggestion. he might be too skinny to stand in cold open water. every time during his annual physical his pediatrician tells us "he needs body fat to keep him warm". a few times he got DQ for false start due to cold shivering in meets at outdoor pools.

you think your swimmer got DQ'd multiple times for false start when he was shivering and had not left the deck and entered the pool???? That is highly highly unlikely.

Uhm, he may swim backstroke...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here again ! Just wanted to update with our experience as unattached swimmer.

We did attend one PVS meet early in the season, but we have not been able to attend other PVS meets. Often we did not hear back from the hosts on questions if we could attend the meets.

The same host that let us to compete in the early season also did not respond later on.

So it is at the mercy of the host if an unattached swimmer can compete at a PVS open meet.

So we decided to give up on PVS unattached status -- there is no point to pay money to register as a PVS swimmer without a chance to compete at PVS champs

the good news is that we can compete at high school meets and we are lucky enough to compete at Metro -- and this keeps our swimcloud account active.

no regret on giving up our club swimming. self training is effective. we achieved 4 personal best times and one of them qualified PVS champs

Just want to say thank you for posting an update. This could very well be useful to someone else checking the forums who may find themselves unattached for whatever reason.

+1 I appreciate the followup as well.

What I found when I looked into this was similar, but I was ultimately told that the swimmer needed to have USA swimming certified coach on deck in order to enter... But, I too wasn't hearing back and only got a response after I sent, via mail, an entry request along with a check to pay for the event entries in advance of the entry deadline for this particular meet. It was only after they received this when they When they then responded to my email telling me the above requirement. That didn't work for us so that was that.

It seems like many of the meet PVS meet announcements make this or a similar proclamation about being open(but not all do) but in practice, you'll probably just be stonewalled. Which is fine, really, if that's what they want, but they should stop pretending or/update the language in the meet announcements to reflect this.

exactly the only meet we went --the host asked "who will be the coach on the deck" we replied "the swimmer himself !" no kidding --- he has been training by himself and experimenting various sets (search on line) -- at age 16, that is not so hard at all

You should have said you or another adult. He cannot be training himself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP

thanks for your open water suggestion. he might be too skinny to stand in cold open water. every time during his annual physical his pediatrician tells us "he needs body fat to keep him warm". a few times he got DQ for false start due to cold shivering in meets at outdoor pools.

He's not too skinny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP

thanks for your open water suggestion. he might be too skinny to stand in cold open water. every time during his annual physical his pediatrician tells us "he needs body fat to keep him warm". a few times he got DQ for false start due to cold shivering in meets at outdoor pools.

you think your swimmer got DQ'd multiple times for false start when he was shivering and had not left the deck and entered the pool???? That is highly highly unlikely.

Uhm, he may swim backstroke...

I mean did the shivering while in the water cause him to come out of his starting position? This is super far fetched, especially for a 16 year old boy who has been swimming with a club.

[Anonymous]

it was in early June at an outdoor pool. it was raining and windy, a lot swimmers scratched their events.

it seems some poster know who we are -- anyway thanks for all the suggestions. we are doing fine without a club. we are 100% committed to high school swimming competition. The season is short but very rewarding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:it was in early June at an outdoor pool. it was raining and windy, a lot swimmers scratched their events.

it seems some poster know who we are -- anyway thanks for all the suggestions. we are doing fine without a club. we are 100% committed to high school swimming competition. The season is short but very rewarding.

Best of luck and pay no attention to the DCUM unrelated pot-shot snipes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:it was in early June at an outdoor pool. it was raining and windy, a lot swimmers scratched their events.

it seems some poster know who we are -- anyway thanks for all the suggestions. we are doing fine without a club. we are 100% committed to high school swimming competition. The season is short but very rewarding.

I don’t know who you are but I’m calling BS. My 10 year old DD did an outdoor meet last year in early-mid June where it was cold and windy and generally awful, and not a single kid DQ-shivering. No one really dropped time, and some added a lot of time, but no one DQ for shivering, and I was timing the 12 U session.

[Anonymous]

jerk !

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it was in early June at an outdoor pool. it was raining and windy, a lot swimmers scratched their events.

it seems some poster know who we are -- anyway thanks for all the suggestions. we are doing fine without a club. we are 100% committed to high school swimming competition. The season is short but very rewarding.

I don’t know who you are but I’m calling BS. My 10 year old DD did an outdoor meet last year in early-mid June where it was cold and windy and generally awful, and not a single kid DQ-shivering. No one really dropped time, and some added a lot of time, but no one DQ for shivering, and I was timing the 12 U session.

If a swimmer was shivering after "take your mark" and he was not able to remain stationary position. Would that be considered a false start ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it was in early June at an outdoor pool. it was raining and windy, a lot swimmers scratched their events.

it seems some poster know who we are -- anyway thanks for all the suggestions. we are doing fine without a club. we are 100% committed to high school swimming competition. The season is short but very rewarding.

I don’t know who you are but I’m calling BS. My 10 year old DD did an outdoor meet last year in early-mid June where it was cold and windy and generally awful, and not a single kid DQ-shivering. No one really dropped time, and some added a lot of time, but no one DQ for shivering, and I was timing the 12 U session.

If a swimmer was shivering after "take your mark" and he was not able to remain stationary position. Would that be considered a false start ?

Nope, and OPs kid is allegedly a 16 year old boy. Didn’t happen.

[Anonymous]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Swimming/comments/t30c4l/is_your_leg_shaking_on_the_block_a_valid_reason/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it was in early June at an outdoor pool. it was raining and windy, a lot swimmers scratched their events.

it seems some poster know who we are -- anyway thanks for all the suggestions. we are doing fine without a club. we are 100% committed to high school swimming competition. The season is short but very rewarding.

I don’t know who you are but I’m calling BS. My 10 year old DD did an outdoor meet last year in early-mid June where it was cold and windy and generally awful, and not a single kid DQ-shivering. No one really dropped time, and some added a lot of time, but no one DQ for shivering, and I was timing the 12 U session.

They all have swim coats and other gear for out of the water. Op sounds like she’s not committed to what this kid needs.