"Confederate" street names in Fairfax to be changed?

[Anonymous]

This nonsense is disruptive to people lives.

If you get hurt over names from two hundred years ago, you might want to visit a mental health professional.

Grow up.

[Anonymous]

Maybe we should worry about Tyson’s getting shot up? That was just a matter of time.
Change the street names, but for all that is holy tackle the crime

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This nonsense is disruptive to people lives.

If you get hurt over names from two hundred years ago, you might want to visit a mental health professional.

Grow up.

Here's the thing: the names may be from the distant past, but not on those streets. Most things in this country named for Confederate icons come from one of two periods -- either roughly 15 years after WWI, or 20 years after WWII. During both wars there were labor shortages and Black Americans advanced economically. When the wars ended there were racist backlashes. After WWII it went on longer as the civil rights movement gathered steam. The naming of things for Confederates was a deliberate provocation, part of a larger push to show Blacks who was boss.

It was wrong then, and it is wrong now. It's not too late to correct it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This nonsense is disruptive to people lives.

If you get hurt over names from two hundred years ago, you might want to visit a mental health professional.

Grow up.

Here's the thing: the names may be from the distant past, but not on those streets. Most things in this country named for Confederate icons come from one of two periods -- either roughly 15 years after WWI, or 20 years after WWII. During both wars there were labor shortages and Black Americans advanced economically. When the wars ended there were racist backlashes. After WWII it went on longer as the civil rights movement gathered steam. The naming of things for Confederates was a deliberate provocation, part of a larger push to show Blacks who was boss.

It was wrong then, and it is wrong now. It's not too late to correct it.

Let's not forget that for most of the 20th century most housing in America was legally segregated by race. Giving a street a provocative name was a deliberate signal that only whites could live there, now and forever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This nonsense is disruptive to people lives.

If you get hurt over names from two hundred years ago, you might want to visit a mental health professional.

Grow up.

Here's the thing: the names may be from the distant past, but not on those streets. Most things in this country named for Confederate icons come from one of two periods -- either roughly 15 years after WWI, or 20 years after WWII. During both wars there were labor shortages and Black Americans advanced economically. When the wars ended there were racist backlashes. After WWII it went on longer as the civil rights movement gathered steam. The naming of things for Confederates was a deliberate provocation, part of a larger push to show Blacks who was boss.

It was wrong then, and it is wrong now. It's not too late to correct it.

Let's not forget that for most of the 20th century most housing in America was legally segregated by race. Giving a street a provocative name was a deliberate signal that only whites could live there, now and forever.

Thanks for both of these points, PPs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I put "Confederate" in quotes because I'm not sure how "Scarlet" and "Ranger" fall within the Confederate/Slavery umbrella.

https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-city-virginia-street-name-change-council-vote-mosby-woods-confederate-slavery-confederate-plantation-lee-ranger-stonewall

Lots of quotes in the article from those wanting the change, but a conspicuous absence of voices from the other side. I'm not sure how I would feel about those names if they were my street, but I do know that changing a home address is a major league PITA.

You mean the pro-slavery traitors? Do you expect the article to present their viewpoint?

You are aware that 4 slave states fought for the union?

[Anonymous]

That's not my hood, but near me. My reaction is meh. It will be a mild inconvenience to us to change local names. But the significance is huge. It's about time Fairfax jettisons these vestages of the Confederacy.

Voices from the other side? I mean, what? "Lee" Boulevard is important to me? "Mosby" Woods school is important to me? "Plantation" Parkway? How do you pearl clutch that one???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe we should worry about Tyson’s getting shot up? That was just a matter of time.
Change the street names, but for all that is holy tackle the crime

Nah, it’s a lot easier to grandstand and change a couple of street names that to address the overwhelming and pervasive problem of black violent crime

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Maybe we should worry about Tyson’s getting shot up? That was just a matter of time.
Change the street names, but for all that is holy tackle the crime


Nah, it’s a lot easier to grandstand and change a couple of street names that to address the overwhelming and pervasive problem of black violent crime

Of course it's easier to change street names. Duh. But who said that two things can't be worked on at the same time? Push them to work on the many problems we face.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I put "Confederate" in quotes because I'm not sure how "Scarlet" and "Ranger" fall within the Confederate/Slavery umbrella.

https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-city-virginia-street-name-change-council-vote-mosby-woods-confederate-slavery-confederate-plantation-lee-ranger-stonewall

Lots of quotes in the article from those wanting the change, but a conspicuous absence of voices from the other side. I'm not sure how I would feel about those names if they were my street, but I do know that changing a home address is a major league PITA.

You mean the pro-slavery traitors? Do you expect the article to present their viewpoint?

You are aware that 4 slave states fought for the union?

How is that relevant? We're talking about the pro-slavery traitors to the United States, not the loyal pro-slavery states.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe we should worry about Tyson’s getting shot up? That was just a matter of time.
Change the street names, but for all that is holy tackle the crime

Ahh yes, VDOT should get right on the crime issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe we should worry about Tyson’s getting shot up? That was just a matter of time.
Change the street names, but for all that is holy tackle the crime

Nah, it’s a lot easier to grandstand and change a couple of street names that to address the overwhelming and pervasive problem of black violent crime

Take on the corporations pushing opiates and guns and there might be fewer white communities flooded with opiates and black communities flooded with guns. Or keep sticking your head in the sand by complaining about “black violent crime” while defending indefensible laws that make it too easy to manufacture, sell, and buy guns.

In the meanwhile, renaming some streets named after Confederates will hurt no one, make some people feel more secure, and do the local property owners a favor, since homes on streets named after Confederates sell at a discount.

[Anonymous]

As a POC, I would not live on Plantation Pkwy or Confederate Ln, and I’d like to think that I would have avoided these even if I was white, based on my principles. So now, more than 50 years later these names are still keeping people out of this neighborhood.

This is not 200 year old history. This is the present policies and perspectives.

[Anonymous]

It's a small thing but it's better to change it than not

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This nonsense is disruptive to people lives.

If you get hurt over names from two hundred years ago, you might want to visit a mental health professional.

Grow up.

Learn some history. Most of these streets were named by racists explicitly to intimidate Black people. Also, there are no Confederate names that are 200 years old...

If you can't understand why racism is harmful, you might be the one in need of some help.