Deal MS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have 5 more years till my Kids hit deal -- but I'm wondering what you guys think will happen in the next 5 years...

-- I see a lot of people complain about the "size of deal" ... but 500 kids per grade seems to be normal.. (BCC has 600 in their 9th grade class, Whitman has 500) .. are you complaining because the building is too small to house that many kids? What do you think may happen to fix overcrowding?

-- I know a lot of people that live in crestwood/ 16th street heights are still grandfathered into Deal/Wilson ..I think that only applies to older kids now thouh (they are likely in 9th by now?) Does anyone remember?

-- Do we know what year they will revisit boundaries again?

-- If MacArthur High is approved, are IBs families more likely to stay at deal due to a potential positive effect on wilson?

500-600 per grade is normal for high school but not for middle school. The populations and expectations and support needs are different. That’s the issue.

That doesn't make sense -- usually there is one middle and one high school with a bunch of feeder elementarys -- this very very typical. Whitman has 5 elementary that all feed inly Pyle Middle. There fore it should have the same cohort from 6th-12th and same number of students...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have 5 more years till my Kids hit deal -- but I'm wondering what you guys think will happen in the next 5 years...

-- I see a lot of people complain about the "size of deal" ... but 500 kids per grade seems to be normal.. (BCC has 600 in their 9th grade class, Whitman has 500) .. are you complaining because the building is too small to house that many kids? What do you think may happen to fix overcrowding?

-- I know a lot of people that live in crestwood/ 16th street heights are still grandfathered into Deal/Wilson ..I think that only applies to older kids now thouh (they are likely in 9th by now?) Does anyone remember?

-- Do we know what year they will revisit boundaries again?

-- If MacArthur High is approved, are IBs families more likely to stay at deal due to a potential positive effect on wilson?

500-600 per grade is normal for high school but not for middle school. The populations and expectations and support needs are different. That’s the issue.

That doesn't make sense -- usually there is one middle and one high school with a bunch of feeder elementarys -- this very very typical. Whitman has 5 elementary that all feed inly Pyle Middle. There fore it should have the same cohort from 6th-12th and same number of students...

I don’t think one MS feeding to one HS is normal. We had 5 ES feed to my MS and two MS feed to my HS. I never heard of 1 feeding to 1 until your post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have 5 more years till my Kids hit deal -- but I'm wondering what you guys think will happen in the next 5 years...

-- I see a lot of people complain about the "size of deal" ... but 500 kids per grade seems to be normal.. (BCC has 600 in their 9th grade class, Whitman has 500) .. are you complaining because the building is too small to house that many kids? What do you think may happen to fix overcrowding?

-- I know a lot of people that live in crestwood/ 16th street heights are still grandfathered into Deal/Wilson ..I think that only applies to older kids now thouh (they are likely in 9th by now?) Does anyone remember?

-- Do we know what year they will revisit boundaries again?

-- If MacArthur High is approved, are IBs families more likely to stay at deal due to a potential positive effect on wilson?

500-600 per grade is normal for high school but not for middle school. The populations and expectations and support needs are different. That’s the issue.

That doesn't make sense -- usually there is one middle and one high school with a bunch of feeder elementarys -- this very very typical. Whitman has 5 elementary that all feed inly Pyle Middle. There fore it should have the same cohort from 6th-12th and same number of students...

I don’t think one MS feeding to one HS is normal. We had 5 ES feed to my MS and two MS feed to my HS. I never heard of 1 feeding to 1 until your post.

My MS was the only one that fed my HS. It’s been that way for 50 years, and still is that way. It’s not universal, of course, but it’s a common enough arrangement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have 5 more years till my Kids hit deal -- but I'm wondering what you guys think will happen in the next 5 years...

-- I see a lot of people complain about the "size of deal" ... but 500 kids per grade seems to be normal.. (BCC has 600 in their 9th grade class, Whitman has 500) .. are you complaining because the building is too small to house that many kids? What do you think may happen to fix overcrowding?

-- I know a lot of people that live in crestwood/ 16th street heights are still grandfathered into Deal/Wilson ..I think that only applies to older kids now thouh (they are likely in 9th by now?) Does anyone remember?

-- Do we know what year they will revisit boundaries again?

-- If MacArthur High is approved, are IBs families more likely to stay at deal due to a potential positive effect on wilson?

Mine was also 1 MS to 1 HS. Not uncommon.
500-600 per grade is normal for high school but not for middle school. The populations and expectations and support needs are different. That’s the issue.

That doesn't make sense -- usually there is one middle and one high school with a bunch of feeder elementarys -- this very very typical. Whitman has 5 elementary that all feed inly Pyle Middle. There fore it should have the same cohort from 6th-12th and same number of students...

I don’t think one MS feeding to one HS is normal. We had 5 ES feed to my MS and two MS feed to my HS. I never heard of 1 feeding to 1 until your post.

My MS was the only one that fed my HS. It’s been that way for 50 years, and still is that way. It’s not universal, of course, but it’s a common enough arrangement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:but....a lot of the problems now are caused by what happened last year. I mean, there are ways to remedy this, but it's not happening. Did you really think all those extra resources needed would happen? It's not like there are even people to HIRE, even if the money was there.

(I remember having a convo last year, being shocked about everyone being good with the school closures, and people not realizing the repercussions it will have in the long term to public education)

Lol sure. The school closure was a good thing. You have no idea how many teachers would have just quit. There would not have been any “learning”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have 5 more years till my Kids hit deal -- but I'm wondering what you guys think will happen in the next 5 years...

-- I see a lot of people complain about the "size of deal" ... but 500 kids per grade seems to be normal.. (BCC has 600 in their 9th grade class, Whitman has 500) .. are you complaining because the building is too small to house that many kids? What do you think may happen to fix overcrowding?

-- I know a lot of people that live in crestwood/ 16th street heights are still grandfathered into Deal/Wilson ..I think that only applies to older kids now thouh (they are likely in 9th by now?) Does anyone remember?

-- Do we know what year they will revisit boundaries again?

-- If MacArthur High is approved, are IBs families more likely to stay at deal due to a potential positive effect on wilson?

500-600 per grade is normal for high school but not for middle school. The populations and expectations and support needs are different. That’s the issue.

That doesn't make sense -- usually there is one middle and one high school with a bunch of feeder elementarys -- this very very typical. Whitman has 5 elementary that all feed inly Pyle Middle. There fore it should have the same cohort from 6th-12th and same number of students...

I don’t think one MS feeding to one HS is normal. We had 5 ES feed to my MS and two MS feed to my HS. I never heard of 1 feeding to 1 until your post.

My MS was the only one that fed my HS. It’s been that way for 50 years, and still is that way. It’s not universal, of course, but it’s a common enough arrangement.

Mine too, in the Philadelphia suburbs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have 5 more years till my Kids hit deal -- but I'm wondering what you guys think will happen in the next 5 years...

-- I see a lot of people complain about the "size of deal" ... but 500 kids per grade seems to be normal.. (BCC has 600 in their 9th grade class, Whitman has 500) .. are you complaining because the building is too small to house that many kids? What do you think may happen to fix overcrowding?

-- I know a lot of people that live in crestwood/ 16th street heights are still grandfathered into Deal/Wilson ..I think that only applies to older kids now thouh (they are likely in 9th by now?) Does anyone remember?

-- Do we know what year they will revisit boundaries again?

-- If MacArthur High is approved, are IBs families more likely to stay at deal due to a potential positive effect on wilson?

500-600 per grade is normal for high school but not for middle school. The populations and expectations and support needs are different. That’s the issue.

Thomas Pyle (the 2nd best middle school in maryland) has 1433 students. Which is the exact sale as deal.........

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have 5 more years till my Kids hit deal -- but I'm wondering what you guys think will happen in the next 5 years...

-- I see a lot of people complain about the "size of deal" ... but 500 kids per grade seems to be normal.. (BCC has 600 in their 9th grade class, Whitman has 500) .. are you complaining because the building is too small to house that many kids? What do you think may happen to fix overcrowding?

-- I know a lot of people that live in crestwood/ 16th street heights are still grandfathered into Deal/Wilson ..I think that only applies to older kids now thouh (they are likely in 9th by now?) Does anyone remember?

-- Do we know what year they will revisit boundaries again?

-- If MacArthur High is approved, are IBs families more likely to stay at deal due to a potential positive effect on wilson?

500-600 per grade is normal for high school but not for middle school. The populations and expectations and support needs are different. That’s the issue.

That doesn't make sense -- usually there is one middle and one high school with a bunch of feeder elementarys -- this very very typical. Whitman has 5 elementary that all feed inly Pyle Middle. There fore it should have the same cohort from 6th-12th and same number of students...

I don’t think one MS feeding to one HS is normal. We had 5 ES feed to my MS and two MS feed to my HS. I never heard of 1 feeding to 1 until your post.

My MS was the only one that fed my HS. It’s been that way for 50 years, and still is that way. It’s not universal, of course, but it’s a common enough arrangement.

Mine too, in the Philadelphia suburbs.

Throughout NY State, there are many small school districts with 1 MS and 1 HS. It is very common

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:but....a lot of the problems now are caused by what happened last year. I mean, there are ways to remedy this, but it's not happening. Did you really think all those extra resources needed would happen? It's not like there are even people to HIRE, even if the money was there.

(I remember having a convo last year, being shocked about everyone being good with the school closures, and people not realizing the repercussions it will have in the long term to public education)

Lol sure. The school closure was a good thing. You have no idea how many teachers would have just quit. There would not have been any “learning”.

I mean, did they quit en masse elsewhere in the country where schools were opened? In most European countries that only closed for short periods?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:but....a lot of the problems now are caused by what happened last year. I mean, there are ways to remedy this, but it's not happening. Did you really think all those extra resources needed would happen? It's not like there are even people to HIRE, even if the money was there.

(I remember having a convo last year, being shocked about everyone being good with the school closures, and people not realizing the repercussions it will have in the long term to public education)

Lol sure. The school closure was a good thing. You have no idea how many teachers would have just quit. There would not have been any “learning”.

It's not like there was much "learning" in virtual, particularly for the younger kids, so would it have mattered?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:but....a lot of the problems now are caused by what happened last year. I mean, there are ways to remedy this, but it's not happening. Did you really think all those extra resources needed would happen? It's not like there are even people to HIRE, even if the money was there.

(I remember having a convo last year, being shocked about everyone being good with the school closures, and people not realizing the repercussions it will have in the long term to public education)

Lol sure. The school closure was a good thing. You have no idea how many teachers would have just quit. There would not have been any “learning”.

I mean, did they quit en masse elsewhere in the country where schools were opened? In most European countries that only closed for short periods?

This. The union supporters refusal to admit that closing schools for so long was a horrible idea is one reason why I could never vote for anyone endorsed by the union.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:but....a lot of the problems now are caused by what happened last year. I mean, there are ways to remedy this, but it's not happening. Did you really think all those extra resources needed would happen? It's not like there are even people to HIRE, even if the money was there.

(I remember having a convo last year, being shocked about everyone being good with the school closures, and people not realizing the repercussions it will have in the long term to public education)

Lol sure. The school closure was a good thing. You have no idea how many teachers would have just quit. There would not have been any “learning”.

Oddly enough, many teachers are quitting now — after a year of virtual and an exhausting return-to-in-person year. I wonder what the situation would be if school had remained in-person throughout?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:but....a lot of the problems now are caused by what happened last year. I mean, there are ways to remedy this, but it's not happening. Did you really think all those extra resources needed would happen? It's not like there are even people to HIRE, even if the money was there.

(I remember having a convo last year, being shocked about everyone being good with the school closures, and people not realizing the repercussions it will have in the long term to public education)

Lol sure. The school closure was a good thing. You have no idea how many teachers would have just quit. There would not have been any “learning”.

Oddly enough, many teachers are quitting now — after a year of virtual and an exhausting return-to-in-person year. I wonder what the situation would be if school had remained in-person throughout?

1 part no suspensions even for weapons + 1 part covering classes in lieu of planning and grading time + 1 part exhaustion from covering our biological children’s quarantines = Lots of Deal resignations this year. Some teams are losing half their teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:but....a lot of the problems now are caused by what happened last year. I mean, there are ways to remedy this, but it's not happening. Did you really think all those extra resources needed would happen? It's not like there are even people to HIRE, even if the money was there.

(I remember having a convo last year, being shocked about everyone being good with the school closures, and people not realizing the repercussions it will have in the long term to public education)

Lol sure. The school closure was a good thing. You have no idea how many teachers would have just quit. There would not have been any “learning”.

Oddly enough, many teachers are quitting now — after a year of virtual and an exhausting return-to-in-person year. I wonder what the situation would be if school had remained in-person throughout?

1 part no suspensions even for weapons + 1 part covering classes in lieu of planning and grading time + 1 part exhaustion from covering our biological children’s quarantines = Lots of Deal resignations this year. Some teams are losing half their teachers.

Yes many of my kid’s classes are combined classes from teachers quitting. We are going to be hurting next year.

[Anonymous]

Agree with the last 2 prior posters as a parent - "oddly enough" means to me you aren't paying attention...hoping fall isn't as bad as I fear it is going to be as it relates to shortages...very appreciative of teachers this year, especially now...