DCPS close contact mask policy

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We got an email about this on Tuesday saying this masks for the whole class for 10 days policy went into effect on Monday.

FINALLY!!!
Seeing students and teachers still unmasked, and untested, after spending days unmasked with an unmasked positive was outrageous.

Why? Everybody will get Covid eventually. They should tell the parents, and then those who are worried can send their kids in a high-quality mask. If they want to be extra careful, they can ask everybody to test on day five. But we can’t continue masking all kids for every Covid case in a class. Covid isn’t going away, and we’d be masking kids forever. Or what do you think the endgame is?

Eventually? At the point, it's in number of times they will get it, and interval between infections. It isn't one and done. It's as many as your behavior gets you, and then it's a quite large risk of many of a quite long list of quite serious long-term ailments.

Wearing a mask for a couple of weeks after a case in the classroom absolutely beats organ failure or chronic fatigue.

Quite a large risk? Where is your evidence for that? And where is your evidence that multiple infections exacerbate the risk of long term ailments?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We got an email about this on Tuesday saying this masks for the whole class for 10 days policy went into effect on Monday.

FINALLY!!!
Seeing students and teachers still unmasked, and untested, after spending days unmasked with an unmasked positive was outrageous.

Why? Everybody will get Covid eventually. They should tell the parents, and then those who are worried can send their kids in a high-quality mask. If they want to be extra careful, they can ask everybody to test on day five. But we can’t continue masking all kids for every Covid case in a class. Covid isn’t going away, and we’d be masking kids forever. Or what do you think the endgame is?

Eventually? At the point, it's in number of times they will get it, and interval between infections. It isn't one and done. It's as many as your behavior gets you, and then it's a quite large risk of many of a quite long list of quite serious long-term ailments.

Wearing a mask for a couple of weeks after a case in the classroom absolutely beats organ failure or chronic fatigue.

It’s a behavior poster. Babe, I hate to break it to you but people who behave “well” still get covid. It’s mostly luck. Stop moralizing it. Also lol at organ failure. I think if the queen and old girl pelosi can get through with some sniffles we’ll be fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s so stupid that mask policy is reactive at this point. There is very convincing research that mask mandates make no difference in schools. It’s been 2+ years and the NIH is just a few metro stops away … do some freakin’ research on this already!

Shut up. Both pro mask and anti mask want you to just shut up already!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s so stupid that mask policy is reactive at this point. There is very convincing research that mask mandates make no difference in schools. It’s been 2+ years and the NIH is just a few metro stops away … do some freakin’ research on this already!

Shut up. Both pro mask and anti mask want you to just shut up already!

DP. If you don’t want to have this discussion, why don’t you just quit clicking on these threads? Seriously, why? You think it’s better to pop in and yell at people? Makes you sound unhinged.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We got an email about this on Tuesday saying this masks for the whole class for 10 days policy went into effect on Monday.

FINALLY!!!
Seeing students and teachers still unmasked, and untested, after spending days unmasked with an unmasked positive was outrageous.

Why? Everybody will get Covid eventually. They should tell the parents, and then those who are worried can send their kids in a high-quality mask. If they want to be extra careful, they can ask everybody to test on day five. But we can’t continue masking all kids for every Covid case in a class. Covid isn’t going away, and we’d be masking kids forever. Or what do you think the endgame is?

Eventually? At the point, it's in number of times they will get it, and interval between infections. It isn't one and done. It's as many as your behavior gets you, and then it's a quite large risk of many of a quite long list of quite serious long-term ailments.

Wearing a mask for a couple of weeks after a case in the classroom absolutely beats organ failure or chronic fatigue.

Of course we will all get it multiple times! But you have no evidence that there is a point to trying to reduce the number of infections you get over your lifetime. As with most viruses, subsequent infections will be milder than the first one.

Here’s a video from a specialist in evidence-based medical decision-making discussing this point:

https://youtu.be/dqCtWN2cTeg

Huh? There is absolutely no consensus on the notion that subsequent infections with covid would be milder than the first one.
A youtube video? From the board that demands RCTs to support masking indoors? Really?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We got an email about this on Tuesday saying this masks for the whole class for 10 days policy went into effect on Monday.

FINALLY!!!
Seeing students and teachers still unmasked, and untested, after spending days unmasked with an unmasked positive was outrageous.

Why? Everybody will get Covid eventually. They should tell the parents, and then those who are worried can send their kids in a high-quality mask. If they want to be extra careful, they can ask everybody to test on day five. But we can’t continue masking all kids for every Covid case in a class. Covid isn’t going away, and we’d be masking kids forever. Or what do you think the endgame is?

Eventually? At the point, it's in number of times they will get it, and interval between infections. It isn't one and done. It's as many as your behavior gets you, and then it's a quite large risk of many of a quite long list of quite serious long-term ailments.

Wearing a mask for a couple of weeks after a case in the classroom absolutely beats organ failure or chronic fatigue.

Of course we will all get it multiple times! But you have no evidence that there is a point to trying to reduce the number of infections you get over your lifetime. As with most viruses, subsequent infections will be milder than the first one.

Here’s a video from a specialist in evidence-based medical decision-making discussing this point:

https://youtu.be/dqCtWN2cTeg

Huh? There is absolutely no consensus on the notion that subsequent infections with covid would be milder than the first one.
A youtube video? From the board that demands RCTs to support masking indoors? Really?

Yes, a YouTube video from the guy who regularly demands RCTs on everything. Do you think his use of this medium devalues his credentials in regulatory science and evidence-based medicine? He is a professor at UCSF who has been working on evaluating medical evidence for many years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty disgusting how many people think their kid has a fundamental right to cough all over people…

My vaccinated kid is not coughing. They are perfectly healthy and forced to wear a mask for 10 days because they were “exposed” to someone with covid. Who or for how long I’m not allowed to know. Even if they test negative on day five they still have to wear a mask for 10 days. Tell me how forcing a vaccinated healthy child to do that is ok?

Exactly. This have essentially backdoored another mandatory mask policy and people haven’t even caught on. There will always be a case. And this new policy requires masking at all times both inside AND outside, which is even more restrictive than the policy had been just prior to lifting the mandate completely and going mask optional. How people haven’t recognized what they are doing is beyond me.

I agree. The question is how long are they going to keep this up? Forever? Covid isn't going away. One more reason to opt out of asymptomatic testing, which is pointless at this stage anyway.

Yes, we opted out as well. DCPS has to realize that this super restrictive policies provide parents no incentive to test their children.

We opted out from the beginning. Asymptomatic testing is pointless and a waste of time.

Ugh I tried to opt out--found out they were testing my kid ANYWAY

You should complain about that, because it's illegal.

Happened to my oldest once. I went down to the school office and raised holy hell (like, school security guard was about to intervene, until I told her I’d sue her and ruin her life if she came near me). We ended up getting an email and apology from the principal, assuring us it would never happen again.

[Anonymous]

DCPS isn’t interested in evidence-based anything. They are interested in appeasing the union. Period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty disgusting how many people think their kid has a fundamental right to cough all over people…

My vaccinated kid is not coughing. They are perfectly healthy and forced to wear a mask for 10 days because they were “exposed” to someone with covid. Who or for how long I’m not allowed to know. Even if they test negative on day five they still have to wear a mask for 10 days. Tell me how forcing a vaccinated healthy child to do that is ok?

Exactly. This have essentially backdoored another mandatory mask policy and people haven’t even caught on. There will always be a case. And this new policy requires masking at all times both inside AND outside, which is even more restrictive than the policy had been just prior to lifting the mandate completely and going mask optional. How people haven’t recognized what they are doing is beyond me.

I agree. The question is how long are they going to keep this up? Forever? Covid isn't going away. One more reason to opt out of asymptomatic testing, which is pointless at this stage anyway.

Yes, we opted out as well. DCPS has to realize that this super restrictive policies provide parents no incentive to test their children.

We opted out from the beginning. Asymptomatic testing is pointless and a waste of time.

Ugh I tried to opt out--found out they were testing my kid ANYWAY

You should complain about that, because it's illegal.

Happened to my oldest once. I went down to the school office and raised holy hell (like, school security guard was about to intervene, until I told her I’d sue her and ruin her life if she came near me). We ended up getting an email and apology from the principal, assuring us it would never happen again.

I was the one who suggested you complain, but this sounds like you didn’t exactly help our cause of getting schools to behave rationally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCPS isn’t interested in evidence-based anything. They are interested in appeasing the union. Period.

I’m sorry, did the union draft this policy? If so, can you show me where it says that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s so stupid that mask policy is reactive at this point. There is very convincing research that mask mandates make no difference in schools. It’s been 2+ years and the NIH is just a few metro stops away … do some freakin’ research on this already!

Shut up. Both pro mask and anti mask want you to just shut up already!

huh?

[Anonymous]

This is a sincere question.

With case numbers rising in the schools what is the solution besides masks and testing?

If the answer is "there's no solution because kids don't get as sick as adults" then what about the others in the community? And what about long Covid in kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a sincere question.

With case numbers rising in the schools what is the solution besides masks and testing?

If the answer is "there's no solution because kids don't get as sick as adults" then what about the others in the community? And what about long Covid in kids?

You could allow kids who are fully vaccinated and asymptomatic to test out of masking after day 5 from the date of exposure. As far as the rest of the community, I don’t think it’s fair to use kids as the protectors any longer. Nearly every other venue is wide open and mask optional, but here we are using schools and the kids again to slow transmission (which, by the way, there’s nothing to suggest this would be the case with masks).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a sincere question.

With case numbers rising in the schools what is the solution besides masks and testing?

If the answer is "there's no solution because kids don't get as sick as adults" then what about the others in the community? And what about long Covid in kids?

You could allow kids who are fully vaccinated and asymptomatic to test out of masking after day 5 from the date of exposure. As far as the rest of the community, I don’t think it’s fair to use kids as the protectors any longer. Nearly every other venue is wide open and mask optional, but here we are using schools and the kids again to slow transmission (which, by the way, there’s nothing to suggest this would be the case with masks).

But I don’t think there should be any mask requirement if you’re fully vaccinated and exposed and are asymptomatic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We got an email about this on Tuesday saying this masks for the whole class for 10 days policy went into effect on Monday.

FINALLY!!!
Seeing students and teachers still unmasked, and untested, after spending days unmasked with an unmasked positive was outrageous.

Why? Everybody will get Covid eventually. They should tell the parents, and then those who are worried can send their kids in a high-quality mask. If they want to be extra careful, they can ask everybody to test on day five. But we can’t continue masking all kids for every Covid case in a class. Covid isn’t going away, and we’d be masking kids forever. Or what do you think the endgame is?

Eventually? At the point, it's in number of times they will get it, and interval between infections. It isn't one and done. It's as many as your behavior gets you, and then it's a quite large risk of many of a quite long list of quite serious long-term ailments.

Wearing a mask for a couple of weeks after a case in the classroom absolutely beats organ failure or chronic fatigue.

Of course we will all get it multiple times! But you have no evidence that there is a point to trying to reduce the number of infections you get over your lifetime. As with most viruses, subsequent infections will be milder than the first one.

Here’s a video from a specialist in evidence-based medical decision-making discussing this point:

https://youtu.be/dqCtWN2cTeg

Huh? There is absolutely no consensus on the notion that subsequent infections with covid would be milder than the first one.
A youtube video? From the board that demands RCTs to support masking indoors? Really?

Yes, a YouTube video from the guy who regularly demands RCTs on everything. Do you think his use of this medium devalues his credentials in regulatory science and evidence-based medicine? He is a professor at UCSF who has been working on evaluating medical evidence for many years.

I HEART Vinay! He is so smart and sensible and a true evidence-based thinker/opiner on health policy. If only he could get a job in the administration to sort all the wackadoodle policies out.