KPMG/Deloitte/EY/PWC/etc. federal advisory/consulting work life balance

[Anonymous]

^^ answering about “homegrown”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:THIS above ^^
DC is a home grown. And brother was a homegrown. Stayed at firm until retirement.
DC is being “molded to the company” and works 90+ hours/ weekends nights. Not the same as OP but answering the off soot of the thread. I don’t know if it’s a good thing for DC but they are the yes sir yes sir type. 24 yo.

Just curious what their salary range looks like at 90 hour weeks at that age?

[Anonymous]

New associates are probably getting in the 75k range

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:THIS above ^^
DC is a home grown. And brother was a homegrown. Stayed at firm until retirement.
DC is being “molded to the company” and works 90+ hours/ weekends nights. Not the same as OP but answering the off soot of the thread. I don’t know if it’s a good thing for DC but they are the yes sir yes sir type. 24 yo.

Just curious what their salary range looks like at 90 hour weeks at that age?

$220K+ bonus

[Anonymous]

If you’re going to torture yourself with this kind of schedule, do it at McKinsey or BCG. They do public sector work and have the same schedules, but are dramatically better paid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you’re going to torture yourself with this kind of schedule, do it at McKinsey or BCG. They do public sector work and have the same schedules, but are dramatically better paid.

For experienced hires or entry level? Because big 4 recruit much more broadly than MBB. A 22 year old can’t just choose to join MBB unless they’re already at a top school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New associates are probably getting in the 75k range

Yes. Whoever said 220k plus bonus must be joking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:THIS above ^^
DC is a home grown. And brother was a homegrown. Stayed at firm until retirement.
DC is being “molded to the company” and works 90+ hours/ weekends nights. Not the same as OP but answering the off soot of the thread. I don’t know if it’s a good thing for DC but they are the yes sir yes sir type. 24 yo.

It's a great thing, DC just needs to follow the path laid ahead where instead of taking abuse as a yes sir type, he learns to inflict it violently on others as retribution for his own suffering. Truly, if he is not that type, success is not guaranteed. Only some people succeed in the Vipers Den, and I'd work a second job (I don't need to..) to keep my kid out of this entirely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Likely open for a SME role. Coming in as senior manager is difficult because you are expected to be leading sales work and have a developed following of people to deliver the work. Hard to do that as a new hire. But as a specialist SME you come in and add value with your knowledge, so easier to do straight away.

Anyone know the average salary for an intel/DoD SME?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:EY GPS employee here. The 'extras' are what get me. I don't want to go to endless happy hours and team events, just let me do my job and go home.

YES.

The worst part about these extras is that leadership thinks it's a morale-booster, and a way to reward people for the punishing hours they are putting in. Meanwhile, it's just additional punishment: more time away from family, hanging out with colleagues you don't want to be around, and time away from working which you desperately need so you fall even more behind. Yay, teambuilding!

Not.

[Anonymous]

Not OP, but I am also an experienced 15+ years in Technology being recruited by these firms. Would I be just around newly minted college kids? I don’t the only old (in my 40s) around. Also, my days of working crazy hours are over.

[Anonymous]

I interviewed for Deloitte years ago. I didn’t get the job and I think a large part of that is, after my first scheduled interview they said they were doing the 2nd round (on campus in DC) on X date. I said I was traveling to a family wedding on x date and they said I could take the interview or leave it. I got a fed job instead and I’ve often wondered if it was just an inflexible interviewer or the culture but it definitely made me take myself out of the running.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:EY GPS employee here. The 'extras' are what get me. I don't want to go to endless happy hours and team events, just let me do my job and go home.

YES.

The worst part about these extras is that leadership thinks it's a morale-booster, and a way to reward people for the punishing hours they are putting in. Meanwhile, it's just additional punishment: more time away from family, hanging out with colleagues you don't want to be around, and time away from working which you desperately need so you fall even more behind. Yay, teambuilding!

Not.

It’s like hazing or grooming for a cult — you don’t like it at first but eventually the repetition and the alcohol makes you fond of belonging.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I interviewed for Deloitte years ago. I didn’t get the job and I think a large part of that is, after my first scheduled interview they said they were doing the 2nd round (on campus in DC) on X date. I said I was traveling to a family wedding on x date and they said I could take the interview or leave it. I got a fed job instead and I’ve often wondered if it was just an inflexible interviewer or the culture but it definitely made me take myself out of the running.

I had a similar experience. I asked to reschedule the second interview because the school nurse called about my son. They said they'd get back to me about a reschedule and never did. I stayed at Booz and I'm pretty okay with it. I've never had an issue with flexibility here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I interviewed for Deloitte years ago. I didn’t get the job and I think a large part of that is, after my first scheduled interview they said they were doing the 2nd round (on campus in DC) on X date. I said I was traveling to a family wedding on x date and they said I could take the interview or leave it. I got a fed job instead and I’ve often wondered if it was just an inflexible interviewer or the culture but it definitely made me take myself out of the running.

I had a similar experience. I asked to reschedule the second interview because the school nurse called about my son. They said they'd get back to me about a reschedule and never did. I stayed at Booz and I'm pretty okay with it. I've never had an issue with flexibility here.

This happened to me with PwC - I was sick and they wouldn't reschedule.