Tell me about your "average" Big-3 student's college admissions

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Anonymous wrote:Conn college, trinity, the all women’s colleges other than Wellesley, Dickinson, Denison, Lafayette, Gettysburg, Sewanee, Rhodes, Wooster. There are so many good options. Don’t push your DD too much - let her be happy. That is far far more important.

My DD graduated from a big3 (NCS) last year and I do not think a single girl went to any of the colleges you listed.

Where did the middle of the pack kids go?

Bates, Richmond, Colby, Colgate, UMiami, Tulane, NYU, Wake Forest

None of these is middle of pack

Holy cow this is insane. We’re nowhere near the application process but none of these schools were even safeties for me with the exception of NYU which at the time I would’ve considered a peer school. I went to a top 25 school from a low ranked public where I was in the top 1% as a URM. I understood things had gotten harder and that my kids coming from a competitive school in a competitive area would have a tougher time but this blows my mind.

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Anonymous wrote:Middle of the pack kids at Sidwell, who may in fact test quite well, go to schools such as Tulane, Hamilton, Colgate, Connecticut College, University of Wisconsin, Lehigh, Kenyon, Oberlin. You actually need to be a top student to get into Wash U, Tufts, Middlebury, Northeastern, and NYU. Ivy League is a crapshoot for everyone. Some of the kids who choose more obscure schools do so for athletic reasons.

A friend’s kid, an unhooked b student at a 4/10 public school in MD went to NYU

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Anonymous wrote:Middle of the pack kids at Sidwell, who may in fact test quite well, go to schools such as Tulane, Hamilton, Colgate, Connecticut College, University of Wisconsin, Lehigh, Kenyon, Oberlin. You actually need to be a top student to get into Wash U, Tufts, Middlebury, Northeastern, and NYU. Ivy League is a crapshoot for everyone. Some of the kids who choose more obscure schools do so for athletic reasons.

A friend’s kid, an unhooked b student at a 4/10 public school in MD went to NYU

Thanks for the random anecdote

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Anonymous wrote:Middle of the pack kids at Sidwell, who may in fact test quite well, go to schools such as Tulane, Hamilton, Colgate, Connecticut College, University of Wisconsin, Lehigh, Kenyon, Oberlin. You actually need to be a top student to get into Wash U, Tufts, Middlebury, Northeastern, and NYU. Ivy League is a crapshoot for everyone. Some of the kids who choose more obscure schools do so for athletic reasons.

A friend’s kid, an unhooked b student at a 4/10 public school in MD went to NYU

Yes, these schools look about right for middle of the pack kids at NCS too. I also agree with the posted NCS list above. The miDdle of the pack ACT scores are usually around 33 or 34. GPAs will look really low to a public school parent, so not even going to mention them because it will start an argument about whether these kids are actually getting into these schools. These are the B/B+ students with occasional As and even a few Cs. Grading is tough and As are hard to come by. Your kid will do fine, OP.

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Whats the average profile at Big 3? 3.2-3.4 GPA, 1350 SAT, 32 ACT or thereabouts?

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Anonymous wrote:Conn college, trinity, the all women’s colleges other than Wellesley, Dickinson, Denison, Lafayette, Gettysburg, Sewanee, Rhodes, Wooster. There are so many good options. Don’t push your DD too much - let her be happy. That is far far more important.

My DD graduated from a big3 (NCS) last year and I do not think a single girl went to any of the colleges you listed.

Where did the middle of the pack kids go?

Bates, Richmond, Colby, Colgate, UMiami, Tulane, NYU, Wake Forest

None of these is middle of pack

Holy cow this is insane. We’re nowhere near the application process but none of these schools were even safeties for me with the exception of NYU which at the time I would’ve considered a peer school. I went to a top 25 school from a low ranked public where I was in the top 1% as a URM. I understood things had gotten harder and that my kids coming from a competitive school in a competitive area would have a tougher time but this blows my mind.

What does the bolded part mean? I truly do not understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Whats the average profile at Big 3? 3.2-3.4 GPA, 1350 SAT, 32 ACT or thereabouts?

My Ds….

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Anonymous wrote:Whats the average profile at Big 3? 3.2-3.4 GPA, 1350 SAT, 32 ACT or thereabouts?

Average sat is just over 1400.

Profile is probably 3.5/1410.
That's my guess.
Also, not all grading is the same at the various "Big3" schools. I have kids at STA and NCS and NCS is far stingier with grades.
My impression is that Sidwell is also stingy but GDS kids have higher GPAs.

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Middle of the pack kids at Big3 or other top private schools do better in admissions than middle of the pack public school kids.

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Anonymous wrote:These schools seem like a huge reach to me based on what you describe, but maybe I'm doom and gloom?

Yes, boys have a documented edge for admission to the second-tier LACs. And some of the first tier ones too. More girls apply than boys and the girls are on average more qualified. In order to maintain a reasonably balanced female-male ratio, schools admit boys who are less qualified.

Anecdotally I have seen boys who are pretty average get into surprisingly good schools and girls who seem well above average get into less good schools than I would have expected.

In DC's '22 class, nearly all the kids who ended up in RD because they were deferred/rejected in ED split with boys mainly getting into Ivies/T15 and girls WLed at them. And these are all students in most rigorous classes. I had heard about this at LACs, but I didn't expect it in this pool of schools.

Sounds about right, my son’s college counselor told us that there is a national shortage of male applicants, providing an advantage this admission cycle.

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Anonymous wrote:These schools seem like a huge reach to me based on what you describe, but maybe I'm doom and gloom?

Yes, boys have a documented edge for admission to the second-tier LACs. And some of the first tier ones too. More girls apply than boys and the girls are on average more qualified. In order to maintain a reasonably balanced female-male ratio, schools admit boys who are less qualified.

Anecdotally I have seen boys who are pretty average get into surprisingly good schools and girls who seem well above average get into less good schools than I would have expected.

In DC's '22 class, nearly all the kids who ended up in RD because they were deferred/rejected in ED split with boys mainly getting into Ivies/T15 and girls WLed at them. And these are all students in most rigorous classes. I had heard about this at LACs, but I didn't expect it in this pool of schools.

Sounds about right, my son’s college counselor told us that there is a national shortage of male applicants, providing an advantage this admission cycle.

Plenty of boys are getting rejected too. Where the sdmit rates are different, it’s only by a few percent.

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Anonymous wrote:Whats the average profile at Big 3? 3.2-3.4 GPA, 1350 SAT, 32 ACT or thereabouts?

Average sat is just over 1400.

Profile is probably 3.5/1410.
That's my guess.
Also, not all grading is the same at the various "Big3" schools. I have kids at STA and NCS and NCS is far stingier with grades.
My impression is that Sidwell is also stingy but GDS kids have higher GPAs.

I agree average is 3.2-3.4 and 1400-1500/32-34

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Anonymous wrote:Do SAT prep now. It really paid off for us. Son recruited to HYP + was told what score range he would need. He did Princeton Review.

You mean daughter.

Huh?

You post these same trite comments constantly. You are very recognizable as a poster.

NP and the daughter thing was quite worthy of a “huh?)”

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Anonymous wrote:Whats the average profile at Big 3? 3.2-3.4 GPA, 1350 SAT, 32 ACT or thereabouts?

Average sat is just over 1400.

Profile is probably 3.5/1410.
That's my guess.
Also, not all grading is the same at the various "Big3" schools. I have kids at STA and NCS and NCS is far stingier with grades.
My impression is that Sidwell is also stingy but GDS kids have higher GPAs.

I agree average is 3.2-3.4 and 1400-1500/32-34

WSJ Nov 30, 2019
Median SAT for Sidwell 1310

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Middle of the pack kids at Big3 or other top private schools do better in admissions than middle of the pack public school kids.

Relevance?