Tell me about your "average" Big-3 student's college admissions

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Anonymous wrote:Conn college, trinity, the all women’s colleges other than Wellesley, Dickinson, Denison, Lafayette, Gettysburg, Sewanee, Rhodes, Wooster. There are so many good options. Don’t push your DD too much - let her be happy. That is far far more important.

My DD graduated from a big3 (NCS) last year and I do not think a single girl went to any of the colleges you listed.

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Anonymous wrote:Just finished the process with DC at big 3. I would focus on SAT prep and bringing up GPA. Don’t worry about the sport because unless it’s played at a high level and you can be recruited, it just doesn’t matter. DC had similar grades and was able to get into several NESCAC schools and other SLACS but not the very top. More like the next tier down. DC had several ECs and some awards on a national level and higher SAT scores from tutoring. And received merit at a few SLACS too.

How does that possibly fit with the narrative that private school isn't a huge advantage in the admissions process? NESACs (even the ones that are a "tier down") aren't accessible at all to public school kids with similar stats.

Public school kids with these stats actually do get into similar colleges.

Well then they have changed in 2022 because my 2018 kid’s classmates at BCC weren’t going with those stats. Even a recruited athlete with a unweighted GPA in that range wasn’t going to a NESCAC. NESCACs were taking maybe top 5-10% kids from public. I didn’t realize things had gotten that much easier.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Conn college, trinity, the all women’s colleges other than Wellesley, Dickinson, Denison, Lafayette, Gettysburg, Sewanee, Rhodes, Wooster. There are so many good options. Don’t push your DD too much - let her be happy. That is far far more important.

My DD graduated from a big3 (NCS) last year and I do not think a single girl went to any of the colleges you listed.

Where did the middle of the pack kids go?

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Anonymous wrote:Just finished the process with DC at big 3. I would focus on SAT prep and bringing up GPA. Don’t worry about the sport because unless it’s played at a high level and you can be recruited, it just doesn’t matter. DC had similar grades and was able to get into several NESCAC schools and other SLACS but not the very top. More like the next tier down. DC had several ECs and some awards on a national level and higher SAT scores from tutoring. And received merit at a few SLACS too.

How does that possibly fit with the narrative that private school isn't a huge advantage in the admissions process? NESACs (even the ones that are a "tier down") aren't accessible at all to public school kids with similar stats.

Public school kids with these stats actually do get into similar colleges.

Well then they have changed in 2022 because my 2018 kid’s classmates at BCC weren’t going with those stats. Even a recruited athlete with a unweighted GPA in that range wasn’t going to a NESCAC. NESCACs were taking maybe top 5-10% kids from public. I didn’t realize things had gotten that much easier.

BCC and Big-3 admissions stats would be different for a variety of reasons. I don't think that we are comparing apples to apples.

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Anonymous wrote:Conn college, trinity, the all women’s colleges other than Wellesley, Dickinson, Denison, Lafayette, Gettysburg, Sewanee, Rhodes, Wooster. There are so many good options. Don’t push your DD too much - let her be happy. That is far far more important.

My DD graduated from a big3 (NCS) last year and I do not think a single girl went to any of the colleges you listed.

Where did the middle of the pack kids go?

+1. Also curious to know this. Do you know if middle-of-the-pack STA students had similar acceptances to middle-of-the-pack NCS students?

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Anonymous wrote:Just finished the process with DC at big 3. I would focus on SAT prep and bringing up GPA. Don’t worry about the sport because unless it’s played at a high level and you can be recruited, it just doesn’t matter. DC had similar grades and was able to get into several NESCAC schools and other SLACS but not the very top. More like the next tier down. DC had several ECs and some awards on a national level and higher SAT scores from tutoring. And received merit at a few SLACS too.

How does that possibly fit with the narrative that private school isn't a huge advantage in the admissions process? NESACs (even the ones that are a "tier down") aren't accessible at all to public school kids with similar stats.

Public school kids with these stats actually do get into similar colleges.

Well then they have changed in 2022 because my 2018 kid’s classmates at BCC weren’t going with those stats. Even a recruited athlete with a unweighted GPA in that range wasn’t going to a NESCAC. NESCACs were taking maybe top 5-10% kids from public. I didn’t realize things had gotten that much easier.

BCC and Big-3 admissions stats would be different for a variety of reasons. I don't think that we are comparing apples to apples.

Obviously they are very different. I am just having trouble reconciling this thread with all the woe is me on the other threads, and responding to a patently falsie statement that these results are similar.

[Anonymous]

OP here. Thanks for all the responses. Very interesting and maybe reassuring? As I mentioned above, DD is a happy and content kid (knock on wood). That is most important to me. I don't want her to stress out unnecessarily. I would be thrilled if DD could get into some of the "B-level" schools mentioned above, especially if it doesn't require an unnecessarily stressful junior year.
Out of curiosity, has anyone noticed boys having an edge over girls based on demographics (i.e., more girls applying than boys)? Or is that not an issue when we are talking about selective colleges?

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These schools seem like a huge reach to me based on what you describe, but maybe I'm doom and gloom?

Yes, boys have a documented edge for admission to the second-tier LACs. And some of the first tier ones too. More girls apply than boys and the girls are on average more qualified. In order to maintain a reasonably balanced female-male ratio, schools admit boys who are less qualified.

Anecdotally I have seen boys who are pretty average get into surprisingly good schools and girls who seem well above average get into less good schools than I would have expected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for all the responses. Very interesting and maybe reassuring? As I mentioned above, DD is a happy and content kid (knock on wood). That is most important to me. I don't want her to stress out unnecessarily. I would be thrilled if DD could get into some of the "B-level" schools mentioned above, especially if it doesn't require an unnecessarily stressful junior year.
Out of curiosity, has anyone noticed boys having an edge over girls based on demographics (i.e., more girls applying than boys)? Or is that not an issue when we are talking about selective colleges?

Boys definitely have an advantage at these middle of the road schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Conn college, trinity, the all women’s colleges other than Wellesley, Dickinson, Denison, Lafayette, Gettysburg, Sewanee, Rhodes, Wooster. There are so many good options. Don’t push your DD too much - let her be happy. That is far far more important.

My DD graduated from a big3 (NCS) last year and I do not think a single girl went to any of the colleges you listed.

There are several kids at our big 3 middle of the pack who we’re accepted and some are going because of merit aid. Not sure why NCS is different.

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Anonymous wrote:Conn college, trinity, the all women’s colleges other than Wellesley, Dickinson, Denison, Lafayette, Gettysburg, Sewanee, Rhodes, Wooster. There are so many good options. Don’t push your DD too much - let her be happy. That is far far more important.

My DD graduated from a big3 (NCS) last year and I do not think a single girl went to any of the colleges you listed.

There are several kids at our big 3 middle of the pack who we’re accepted and some are going because of merit aid. Not sure why NCS is different.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conn college, trinity, the all women’s colleges other than Wellesley, Dickinson, Denison, Lafayette, Gettysburg, Sewanee, Rhodes, Wooster. There are so many good options. Don’t push your DD too much - let her be happy. That is far far more important.

My DD graduated from a big3 (NCS) last year and I do not think a single girl went to any of the colleges you listed.

There are several kids at our big 3 middle of the pack who we’re accepted and some are going because of merit aid. Not sure why NCS is different.

I don’t think NCS is that different actually. The girls getting into Ivy’s have an advantage - either the kids of someone famous and influential, and/or legacy, URM, or sports recruits

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Conn college, trinity, the all women’s colleges other than Wellesley, Dickinson, Denison, Lafayette, Gettysburg, Sewanee, Rhodes, Wooster. There are so many good options. Don’t push your DD too much - let her be happy. That is far far more important.

My DD graduated from a big3 (NCS) last year and I do not think a single girl went to any of the colleges you listed.

Where did the middle of the pack kids go?

Bates, Richmond, Colby, Colgate, UMiami, Tulane, NYU, Wake Forest

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conn college, trinity, the all women’s colleges other than Wellesley, Dickinson, Denison, Lafayette, Gettysburg, Sewanee, Rhodes, Wooster. There are so many good options. Don’t push your DD too much - let her be happy. That is far far more important.

My DD graduated from a big3 (NCS) last year and I do not think a single girl went to any of the colleges you listed.

Where did the middle of the pack kids go?

Bates, Richmond, Colby, Colgate, UMiami, Tulane, NYU, Wake Forest

where did the bottom 25% go?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conn college, trinity, the all women’s colleges other than Wellesley, Dickinson, Denison, Lafayette, Gettysburg, Sewanee, Rhodes, Wooster. There are so many good options. Don’t push your DD too much - let her be happy. That is far far more important.

My DD graduated from a big3 (NCS) last year and I do not think a single girl went to any of the colleges you listed.

Where did the middle of the pack kids go?

Bates, Richmond, Colby, Colgate, UMiami, Tulane, NYU, Wake Forest

Bates has an admission rate of 14%; Colby is 10%. I guess middle of the pack is very broad.