LCPS is so incompetent they had the wrong day for Eid

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Anonymous wrote:Why is a religious holiday part of the LCPS public school calendar? Had no idea you all became extremists out there and forgot about separation of church and state.


I don’t think you know what separation of church and state means.


Really? So throwing in religious holidays, that have no secular purpose, into a public school is not state sanctioned religion? Christmas is not a religious holiday on the school calendar, it's winter break and has a secular purpose - it's a federal holiday and many non-Christians celebrate it as a secular holiday. Eid only benefits followers of a specific religion.


Same with Rosh Hashannah, Yom Kippur, and Diwali, now all on the calendar as well. All in the name of equity and wokeness.


There's no reason time off from school needs to align with any holiday.

Other countries do not get the time off that kids in the US get. It's why American kids are so ignorant and ill prepared for life.
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Anonymous wrote:What’s embarrassing is you trying to make this a big deal when you literally know nothing about Eid and apparently think it’s like Christmas where it occurs the exact same day every calendar year . Exactly zero people are bothered by it being moved from Tuesday to Monday once the official date the holiday for our hemisphere was announced


This is false. Lots of people made plans and appointments for the day off school and no it shouldn’t be changed a month out.


Are you serious? Wow. Please don't say that out loud unless you want everyone to think you're a complete moronic ahole.


You are the moronic ahole. Lots of people care that it got moved on a months notice. Lots of people made appointments and arranged childcare.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is a religious holiday part of the LCPS public school calendar? Had no idea you all became extremists out there and forgot about separation of church and state.


You're absolutely right.

At the next board meeting I will propose an adjustment to the school holiday calendar.

Winter break will now run December 26-Jan 2.
Spring break should honestly be later in March like colleges have it, not around Easter. Let's aim for mid to late march.
Thanksgiving is a trash holiday based on STDs and genocide, so we'll cancel that one altogether. Fall break will now happen at the beginning of November.
George Washington was a slave owner, so obviously, his bday is out. No more day off.
We'll keep October 11th but only after thorough vetting. If our spies find out you've called it 'Columbus Day' within the last 5 years, you AND your kid have to attend school that day.
MLK Jr. Day - keep it


Typically illogical progressive argument. Winter break and spring break have already been addressed regarding serving a secular purpose. Your non-religious holiday rants are irrelevant to the establishment clause.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is a religious holiday part of the LCPS public school calendar? Had no idea you all became extremists out there and forgot about separation of church and state.


I don’t think you know what separation of church and state means.


Really? So throwing in religious holidays, that have no secular purpose, into a public school is not state sanctioned religion? Christmas is not a religious holiday on the school calendar, it's winter break and has a secular purpose - it's a federal holiday and many non-Christians celebrate it as a secular holiday. Eid only benefits followers of a specific religion.


Same with Rosh Hashannah, Yom Kippur, and Diwali, now all on the calendar as well. All in the name of equity and wokeness.


There's no reason time off from school needs to align with any holiday.

Other countries do not get the time off that kids in the US get. It's why American kids are so ignorant and ill prepared for life.


Well, I have friends in India, & they get a relatively long break for Diwali AND for Christmas.
Practically speaking, if a large percentage of students/staff are likely to be absent, make that a day off. I don’t care if the holiday is Jewish, Muslim, Christian, etc. We are in APS. If they had taken a poll & found that, say, 20% of people will skip school for X holiday, by all means, make that a school holiday. They did not do so, & I suspect the number of people who would miss school for most of these holidays is very small. Also, I’m a Christian who doesn’t care if spring break is linked to Easter. And Christmas is a federal holiday, & yes many people would skip school for Christmas even if that bothers you.
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Anonymous wrote:What is Eid??


Really? You don't know this in 2022??


Why would this be common knowledge? The only reason I know Eid even exists is because my husband studied middle eastern history in college and will post about the holidays on Facebook. And because of these calendar arguments. I don't know any Muslims.

- NP
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Anonymous wrote:What’s embarrassing is you trying to make this a big deal when you literally know nothing about Eid and apparently think it’s like Christmas where it occurs the exact same day every calendar year . Exactly zero people are bothered by it being moved from Tuesday to Monday once the official date the holiday for our hemisphere was announced


This is false. Lots of people made plans and appointments for the day off school and no it shouldn’t be changed a month out.


The holiday isn’t for people making appointments, it’s for those celebrating Eid, which is not scheduled the same way as certain other holidays.

Sorry for your inconvenience!


Yes. The day was chosen to accommodate those celebrating Eid. But the *school calendar* itself was published well in advance because of the larger school community that needs to be able to plan their schedules. Employers are not always accommodating of schedule changes and many people here don’t have local family to just help out if something changes. School employees use days off to schedule personal things like medical appointments. There needs to be some expectation that the school board isn’t going to just change dates off unless it’s absolutely unavoidable like a weather emergency. What is the point in having a school calendar if the attitude is simply a sarcastic “sorry for your inconvenience” if dates off get changed.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is a religious holiday part of the LCPS public school calendar? Had no idea you all became extremists out there and forgot about separation of church and state.


I don’t think you know what separation of church and state means.


Really? So throwing in religious holidays, that have no secular purpose, into a public school is not state sanctioned religion? Christmas is not a religious holiday on the school calendar, it's winter break and has a secular purpose - it's a federal holiday and many non-Christians celebrate it as a secular holiday. Eid only benefits followers of a specific religion.


Same with Rosh Hashannah, Yom Kippur, and Diwali, now all on the calendar as well. All in the name of equity and wokeness.


There's no reason time off from school needs to align with any holiday.

Other countries do not get the time off that kids in the US get. It's why American kids are so ignorant and ill prepared for life.


Well, I have friends in India, & they get a relatively long break for Diwali AND for Christmas.
Practically speaking, if a large percentage of students/staff are likely to be absent, make that a day off. I don’t care if the holiday is Jewish, Muslim, Christian, etc. We are in APS. If they had taken a poll & found that, say, 20% of people will skip school for X holiday, by all means, make that a school holiday. They did not do so, & I suspect the number of people who would miss school for most of these holidays is very small. Also, I’m a Christian who doesn’t care if spring break is linked to Easter. And Christmas is a federal holiday, & yes many people would skip school for Christmas even if that bothers you.

I work in south Arlington and the number of students and staff out for Eid each year is quite high.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is a religious holiday part of the LCPS public school calendar? Had no idea you all became extremists out there and forgot about separation of church and state.


I don’t think you know what separation of church and state means.


Really? So throwing in religious holidays, that have no secular purpose, into a public school is not state sanctioned religion? Christmas is not a religious holiday on the school calendar, it's winter break and has a secular purpose - it's a federal holiday and many non-Christians celebrate it as a secular holiday. Eid only benefits followers of a specific religion.


Same with Rosh Hashannah, Yom Kippur, and Diwali, now all on the calendar as well. All in the name of equity and wokeness.


There's no reason time off from school needs to align with any holiday.

Other countries do not get the time off that kids in the US get. It's why American kids are so ignorant and ill prepared for life.


Well, I have friends in India, & they get a relatively long break for Diwali AND for Christmas.
Practically speaking, if a large percentage of students/staff are likely to be absent, make that a day off. I don’t care if the holiday is Jewish, Muslim, Christian, etc. We are in APS. If they had taken a poll & found that, say, 20% of people will skip school for X holiday, by all means, make that a school holiday. They did not do so, & I suspect the number of people who would miss school for most of these holidays is very small. Also, I’m a Christian who doesn’t care if spring break is linked to Easter. And Christmas is a federal holiday, & yes many people would skip school for Christmas even if that bothers you.

I work in south Arlington and the number of students and staff out for Eid each year is quite high.


I work in APs and was horrified when one of my students asked last spring if she could make up the SOL because she would be celebrating Eid that day

It should be a holiday. There are over a billion people worldwide who celebrate, and plenty in this area. I don’t really care that the day off was moved, and yes, I do have school-age kids of my own.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is a religious holiday part of the LCPS public school calendar? Had no idea you all became extremists out there and forgot about separation of church and state.


I don’t think you know what separation of church and state means.


Really? So throwing in religious holidays, that have no secular purpose, into a public school is not state sanctioned religion? Christmas is not a religious holiday on the school calendar, it's winter break and has a secular purpose - it's a federal holiday and many non-Christians celebrate it as a secular holiday. Eid only benefits followers of a specific religion.


Same with Rosh Hashannah, Yom Kippur, and Diwali, now all on the calendar as well. All in the name of equity and wokeness.


There's no reason time off from school needs to align with any holiday.

Other countries do not get the time off that kids in the US get. It's why American kids are so ignorant and ill prepared for life.


Well, I have friends in India, & they get a relatively long break for Diwali AND for Christmas.
Practically speaking, if a large percentage of students/staff are likely to be absent, make that a day off. I don’t care if the holiday is Jewish, Muslim, Christian, etc. We are in APS. If they had taken a poll & found that, say, 20% of people will skip school for X holiday, by all means, make that a school holiday. They did not do so, & I suspect the number of people who would miss school for most of these holidays is very small. Also, I’m a Christian who doesn’t care if spring break is linked to Easter. And Christmas is a federal holiday, & yes many people would skip school for Christmas even if that bothers you.

I work in south Arlington and the number of students and staff out for Eid each year is quite high.


I work in APs and was horrified when one of my students asked last spring if she could make up the SOL because she would be celebrating Eid that day

It should be a holiday. There are over a billion people worldwide who celebrate, and plenty in this area. I don’t really care that the day off was moved, and yes, I do have school-age kids of my own.


Are you horrified when kids need to make up a SOL due to Buddhist or Wiccan holidays? Seems a lot of excuses being made to prioritize certain religions in our public schools.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is a religious holiday part of the LCPS public school calendar? Had no idea you all became extremists out there and forgot about separation of church and state.


I don’t think you know what separation of church and state means.


Really? So throwing in religious holidays, that have no secular purpose, into a public school is not state sanctioned religion? Christmas is not a religious holiday on the school calendar, it's winter break and has a secular purpose - it's a federal holiday and many non-Christians celebrate it as a secular holiday. Eid only benefits followers of a specific religion.


Same with Rosh Hashannah, Yom Kippur, and Diwali, now all on the calendar as well. All in the name of equity and wokeness.


There's no reason time off from school needs to align with any holiday.

Other countries do not get the time off that kids in the US get. It's why American kids are so ignorant and ill prepared for life.


Well, I have friends in India, & they get a relatively long break for Diwali AND for Christmas.
Practically speaking, if a large percentage of students/staff are likely to be absent, make that a day off. I don’t care if the holiday is Jewish, Muslim, Christian, etc. We are in APS. If they had taken a poll & found that, say, 20% of people will skip school for X holiday, by all means, make that a school holiday. They did not do so, & I suspect the number of people who would miss school for most of these holidays is very small. Also, I’m a Christian who doesn’t care if spring break is linked to Easter. And Christmas is a federal holiday, & yes many people would skip school for Christmas even if that bothers you.

I work in south Arlington and the number of students and staff out for Eid each year is quite high.


I work in APs and was horrified when one of my students asked last spring if she could make up the SOL because she would be celebrating Eid that day

It should be a holiday. There are over a billion people worldwide who celebrate, and plenty in this area. I don’t really care that the day off was moved, and yes, I do have school-age kids of my own.


Are you horrified when kids need to make up a SOL due to Buddhist or Wiccan holidays? Seems a lot of excuses being made to prioritize certain religions in our public schools.

We have a lot of Muslim staff and students, if we had a significant number of absences on those days I imagine they’d add them to the calendar.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is a religious holiday part of the LCPS public school calendar? Had no idea you all became extremists out there and forgot about separation of church and state.


I don’t think you know what separation of church and state means.


Really? So throwing in religious holidays, that have no secular purpose, into a public school is not state sanctioned religion? Christmas is not a religious holiday on the school calendar, it's winter break and has a secular purpose - it's a federal holiday and many non-Christians celebrate it as a secular holiday. Eid only benefits followers of a specific religion.


Same with Rosh Hashannah, Yom Kippur, and Diwali, now all on the calendar as well. All in the name of equity and wokeness.


There's no reason time off from school needs to align with any holiday.

Other countries do not get the time off that kids in the US get. It's why American kids are so ignorant and ill prepared for life.


Well, I have friends in India, & they get a relatively long break for Diwali AND for Christmas.
Practically speaking, if a large percentage of students/staff are likely to be absent, make that a day off. I don’t care if the holiday is Jewish, Muslim, Christian, etc. We are in APS. If they had taken a poll & found that, say, 20% of people will skip school for X holiday, by all means, make that a school holiday. They did not do so, & I suspect the number of people who would miss school for most of these holidays is very small. Also, I’m a Christian who doesn’t care if spring break is linked to Easter. And Christmas is a federal holiday, & yes many people would skip school for Christmas even if that bothers you.

I work in south Arlington and the number of students and staff out for Eid each year is quite high.


I work in APs and was horrified when one of my students asked last spring if she could make up the SOL because she would be celebrating Eid that day

It should be a holiday. There are over a billion people worldwide who celebrate, and plenty in this area. I don’t really care that the day off was moved, and yes, I do have school-age kids of my own.


Why were you horrified? That’s a bit of a overreaction. I’m also a teacher and know that we can’t possibly avoid giving tests on every single holiday, since we have so many students here from all over the world. I would have found out the alternate date and reassured the child. As teachers, we do things like this all of the time.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is a religious holiday part of the LCPS public school calendar? Had no idea you all became extremists out there and forgot about separation of church and state.


I don’t think you know what separation of church and state means.


Really? So throwing in religious holidays, that have no secular purpose, into a public school is not state sanctioned religion? Christmas is not a religious holiday on the school calendar, it's winter break and has a secular purpose - it's a federal holiday and many non-Christians celebrate it as a secular holiday. Eid only benefits followers of a specific religion.


Same with Rosh Hashannah, Yom Kippur, and Diwali, now all on the calendar as well. All in the name of equity and wokeness.


There's no reason time off from school needs to align with any holiday.

Other countries do not get the time off that kids in the US get. It's why American kids are so ignorant and ill prepared for life.


Well, I have friends in India, & they get a relatively long break for Diwali AND for Christmas.
Practically speaking, if a large percentage of students/staff are likely to be absent, make that a day off. I don’t care if the holiday is Jewish, Muslim, Christian, etc. We are in APS. If they had taken a poll & found that, say, 20% of people will skip school for X holiday, by all means, make that a school holiday. They did not do so, & I suspect the number of people who would miss school for most of these holidays is very small. Also, I’m a Christian who doesn’t care if spring break is linked to Easter. And Christmas is a federal holiday, & yes many people would skip school for Christmas even if that bothers you.

I work in south Arlington and the number of students and staff out for Eid each year is quite high.


I work in APs and was horrified when one of my students asked last spring if she could make up the SOL because she would be celebrating Eid that day

It should be a holiday. There are over a billion people worldwide who celebrate, and plenty in this area. I don’t really care that the day off was moved, and yes, I do have school-age kids of my own.


Why were you horrified? That’s a bit of a overreaction. I’m also a teacher and know that we can’t possibly avoid giving tests on every single holiday, since we have so many students here from all over the world. I would have found out the alternate date and reassured the child. As teachers, we do things like this all of the time.


Because given the number of Muslim students I teach, an end-of-year test shouldn’t have been scheduled on Eid. It shouldn’t fall on the student (who was relatively young in this case) to point out that it had been. And yes, of course I got her the makeup information.

I agree we can’t avoid giving tests on every holiday. This wasn’t a unit test scheduled for a minor holiday. It was an end-of-year test, and those shouldn’t be scheduled on major religious holidays.

Overreaction? Maybe, maybe not. The student shouldn’t have been put in this position.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is a religious holiday part of the LCPS public school calendar? Had no idea you all became extremists out there and forgot about separation of church and state.


I don’t think you know what separation of church and state means.


Really? So throwing in religious holidays, that have no secular purpose, into a public school is not state sanctioned religion? Christmas is not a religious holiday on the school calendar, it's winter break and has a secular purpose - it's a federal holiday and many non-Christians celebrate it as a secular holiday. Eid only benefits followers of a specific religion.


Same with Rosh Hashannah, Yom Kippur, and Diwali, now all on the calendar as well. All in the name of equity and wokeness.


There's no reason time off from school needs to align with any holiday.

Other countries do not get the time off that kids in the US get. It's why American kids are so ignorant and ill prepared for life.


Well, I have friends in India, & they get a relatively long break for Diwali AND for Christmas.
Practically speaking, if a large percentage of students/staff are likely to be absent, make that a day off. I don’t care if the holiday is Jewish, Muslim, Christian, etc. We are in APS. If they had taken a poll & found that, say, 20% of people will skip school for X holiday, by all means, make that a school holiday. They did not do so, & I suspect the number of people who would miss school for most of these holidays is very small. Also, I’m a Christian who doesn’t care if spring break is linked to Easter. And Christmas is a federal holiday, & yes many people would skip school for Christmas even if that bothers you.

I work in south Arlington and the number of students and staff out for Eid each year is quite high.


I work in APs and was horrified when one of my students asked last spring if she could make up the SOL because she would be celebrating Eid that day

It should be a holiday. There are over a billion people worldwide who celebrate, and plenty in this area. I don’t really care that the day off was moved, and yes, I do have school-age kids of my own.


Why were you horrified? That’s a bit of a overreaction. I’m also a teacher and know that we can’t possibly avoid giving tests on every single holiday, since we have so many students here from all over the world. I would have found out the alternate date and reassured the child. As teachers, we do things like this all of the time.


Because given the number of Muslim students I teach, an end-of-year test shouldn’t have been scheduled on Eid. It shouldn’t fall on the student (who was relatively young in this case) to point out that it had been. And yes, of course I got her the makeup information.

I agree we can’t avoid giving tests on every holiday. This wasn’t a unit test scheduled for a minor holiday. It was an end-of-year test, and those shouldn’t be scheduled on major religious holidays.

Overreaction? Maybe, maybe not. The student shouldn’t have been put in this position.



There are private religious schools for extremists like you. If students want to observe a religious day they can call in absent and reschedule whatever they need to do. A public school should not be deciding what are major religious holidays and which ones to observe over others.

Also, religion is completely optional. It's not an immutable characteristic like race, skin color, etc so does not need to be put into the "equity and diversity" bin.
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So you will be petitioning your school board to move winter break to January, between semesters, and therefore requesting school on Christmas Day, I assume.
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Anonymous wrote:So you will be petitioning your school board to move winter break to January, between semesters, and therefore requesting school on Christmas Day, I assume.


No, I won't because I have no legal basis to challenge winter break - it's secular.
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