HB -- what is it?
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Anonymous
Uh, 5 year olds are not allowed to walk to school alone anywhere in the county. And I lived in a nearby apt with kids. It was great. I miss that little playground. But it would have been a very walkable elementary where seats are needed. |
Anonymous
So hub stop buses are more efficient than walking to school? |
Anonymous
Most schools have buses. Every.single.school has buses - option or not. You can look up the bus usage online. Like it or not, there will be buses taking kids to/from school. The old bus system was a waste - multiple stops with 2 or 3 kids waiting to be picked up; in my DD's case, she was often the only one waiting to be picked up. With the institution of the hub stops, YES, it is more efficient than it was. Noone was comparing taking the bus to walking to school. If so, be more clear in your complaint. Or you just like to complain only about HB? |
Anonymous
You don't seem to be listening. Teachers aren't doing stuff on the fly, they are devoting entire class periods to providing the services that counselors provide, in a way that has worked at HB for a long time. My kid doesn't have an IEP for being gifted btw and that isn't counted as a special ed service -- not sure what planet you are on with that. Instead of having one counselor to support the entire student body they have 5 different teachers per year (or whatever) doing so with regular check ins. I think having at least one teacher a year who really gets to know your kid well is a better way of keeping track of what is going on with kids, to be honest. I'm telling you what I observe from my kid's friends which is that there are definitely a bunch of "fringe" kids at HB who may not have a lot of resources but they are supported at the school and made to feel welcome. It's clear that you don't want to hear this though so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
Anonymous
Gifted is special ed https://www.apsva.us/gifted-services/twice-exceptional/ Why can’t you just be gracious that you benefit from a coveted program by luck rather than pretend there are these huge trade offs. My kid never can see her counselor, they are booked solid with county services meetings. |
Anonymous
Wow. 2e is not any old gifted service. 2e means you both qualify for special ed services on your own and also qualify as gifted. (2e is like if you qualify as gifted but also have HFA or ADHD etc.) If you only qualify as gifted, though, without also having a disability, you are not receiving special ed services. But it's clear that you don't care about truth and are happy spreading disinformation as you did earlier as well in talking about HB requiring greater amounts of money to support smaller class sizes. You don't know what you're talking about but have a huge grudge against the school. Grow up. There ARE trade offs in being at HB. Transportation is harder (my kid would have been able to walk to our neighborhood school oh well), my kid has basically lost their neighborhood friends, there are no athletics besides the frisbee thing, there are fewer class choices. But for us the trade offs have been worth it, my kid is a lot happier than in elementary school, which was extremely difficult for them. I fully agree we WERE extremely lucky to get in. |
Anonymous
This is the 2(e) page. "Gifted" alone is not special Ed. Stufents who are identified as gifted and also have learning challenges/disabilities are 2(e) and receive additional support because of those learning challenges/disabilities. |
Anonymous
| If you kid is not able to make a timely appointment with their counselor, my advice is to call the administration (I would just start with the front desk and keep going up the chain to the vice principal and principal if you don't get anything helpful). I would explain the wait time and that the service is needed and ask if they can do anything, fwiw. Counselor services are important and maybe the admin isn't aware of the problem. Especially with the recent problems at Swanson, I don't think APS should be slow rolling counselor services right now. I would say that, too, fwiw. |
Anonymous
You are misinformed about the buses. HB still uses 2x as many buses per student attending the school as neighborhood secondary schools do. Even with hun stops. And their routes are twice as long. So HB transportation costs 4x as much and that isn’t including transportation back to neighborhood schools for band/sports etc. |
Anonymous
Again with the woe is me trade offs. Middle schools sports are terrible in APS — if you don’t do travel from a young age you never make the cut for most sports except frisbee and track. So that is a negligible “trade off” of HB. Kids change their friend group in middle school all the time, that is not unique to HB. There’s a reason everyone wants to get into your private school. You should be campaigning with us for Hb2 before the anger about the inequity of the supersized high schools creates a large enough backlash against your program. |
Anonymous
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Just noting that you haven't once acknowledged the clear errors you have made in spreading disinformation in this post: HB's lower class sizes are subsidized through cutting non-teaching staff so it doesn't cost more; HB is not inflating the percentage of special needs kids it provides services to (which is comparatively high) by counting non-disabled, gifted kids as special needs (wut that was cray), etc. The list is probably longer but my patience is worn out.
There is one particular parent who applied to HB for their kid but didn't get in and has now pretty much made a personal vow to destroy HB in manner of comic book villain, fyi. |
Anonymous
You are ADORBS. You can have less aggregate counseling services because your filtered student population NEEDS less counseling. There are less labor hours spent on counseling at HB -- that's how you get away with having teachers and principals do it in a like planning period. That is a cost that you are implicitly sending back to neighborhood schools -- the counseling of that in need population that you conveniently don't accept. The population of LD children at HB is mostly ADHD IEP granted with engaged parents; APS rarely assigns IEP without parental request because the incentives are not aligned (it would mean more work for them), and those the broader neighborhood schools have all the parents who are too busy/stressed/checked out to navigate the HB process. I especially love how you skirt the issue that your demographics most match lilly white Yorktown despite being a county wide program -- but again that reflects the reality of who can accommodate the logistics of applying and attending the "private school on public dime". I honestly wouldn't care if you just accepted you are getting special treatment, and not act like HB has many downsides. |
Anonymous
| ^^ I am with you. This HB poster acts like we haven’t all been thru APS and don’t know it’s weaknesses. The counseling service at DC middle school is a joke. We know that HB is a better school with smaller classes. That is a fact. Stop trying to act like APS HS and MS are in any way equal to the education you get at HB with your trade off nonsense. |
Anonymous
DP - My kid is at HB and had not received any counseling services at all. What counseling are you expecting in middle school? |
Anonymous
There is not ONE parent. I’ve made one of these statements that HB is self selective and more expensive, but not the rest of them. You keep responding like it is one parent. HB has smaller classes, lower special needs and higher SES than the county secondary avg. It had great higher transportation costs. Those are facts. |