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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The building was needed whether for HB or Hamm. If you think the building was too much, go advocate to the board the next time they want to build a new building to lower the cost. The actual program doesn’t cost more than at a standard HS, other than busing. And I don’t see anyone complaining about the busing at Claremont, Key, MPSA, ATS, or Gunston.[/quote]

Plenty of people complain about the busing to those programs. All option programs cost most than neighborhood schools. HB costs significantly more because it, on avg, has smaller class sizes than the comprehensive high schools and staff is the largest cost.[/quote]

No.  Absolutely not.  HB doesn't have staff that don't teach, even administrators like principals and vice principals at HB teach, they don't have counselors and other non-teaching administrators, so there is no extra cost!!!!  It does NOT cost more.  Do not spread misinformation.[/quote]

Yeah they don’t need dedicated counselors because the problem children with checked out or incarcerated parents aren’t at HB, because there is zero change they would navigate the lottery and deadline. [/quote]

No.  The teachers act as counselors.  They have "TA" classes every few days and check in with their assigned TAs.  It works.

I have a kid who had problems in elementary school and has an IEP, and we are at HB now.  We were lucky to get in.  There are benefits and trade offs but this is a much better fit for us than our elementary school experience.  From my kid's friends and classmates there are definitely other kids with problems at the school.  I mean, I guess I'm not incarcerated or checked out, so maybe my kid doesn't count to you.[/quote]

1) exactly. They don’t need dedicated counselors, the teachers do it on adhoc basis. I’m assuming the WL and YHS counselors aren’t sitting around munching edibles all day, but I guess it’s possible.

2) you are like the opposite of the problem parents — you took the initiative and had resources to obtain an IEP. But you won’t get kids bringing tasers to school.  Any school requiring extra effort to attend has that barrier to entry for families with challenges. You are so obtuse.

“ While HBW’s demographic profile does not mirror the county’s overall makeup (61 percent of HBW’s students are white compared with 47 percent among all students in the county), HBW’s student population is significantly more diverse than it would be if HBW served as a neighborhood school.  HBW’s students come from 46 different countries and speak 27 different languages at home.  In addition, HBW’s student body matches the county’s distribution of special education students.  HBW’s special education students make up 15.8% of the student body compared to 14 percent county-wide.”

Curious, aren’t “gifted” considers special education students?  But I’m sure the IEP crowd counts too, again with plugged in parents.

https://hbwoodlawn.apsva.us/parents-pages/pac-site/pac/frequently-asked-questions/

And 12% free lunch, vs WL 26%. It’s closer to Yorktown’s 9%. For a county wide program.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/SNPMonthlyEligibilityReport.pdf[/quote]

You don't seem to be listening.  Teachers aren't doing stuff on the fly, they are devoting entire class periods to providing the services that counselors provide, in a way that has worked at HB for a long time.  My kid doesn't have an IEP for being gifted btw and that isn't counted as a special ed service -- not sure what planet you are on with that.  Instead of having one counselor to support the entire student body they have 5 different teachers per year (or whatever) doing so with regular check ins.  I think having at least one teacher a year who really gets to know your kid well is a better way of keeping track of what is going on with kids, to be honest.

I'm telling you what I observe from my kid's friends which is that there are definitely a bunch of "fringe" kids at HB who may not have a lot of resources but they are supported at the school and made to feel welcome.  It's clear that you don't want to hear this though so  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯[/quote]

Gifted is special ed

https://www.apsva.us/gifted-services/twice-exceptional/

Why can’t you just be gracious that you benefit from a coveted program by luck rather than pretend there are these huge trade offs. My kid never can see her counselor,  they are booked solid with county services meetings. [/quote]

This is the 2(e) page. "Gifted" alone is not special Ed.  Stufents who are identified as gifted and also have learning challenges/disabilities are 2(e) and receive additional support because of those learning challenges/disabilities.

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