Alternatives to an HBCU?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Duke alum and it pains me to say it but I agree with UNC. I know a number of highly successful AA UNC alums from our generation (graduated around the 90s) who had a great experience at UNC. They developed a tight network there that has helped them professionally as well but also felt very comfortable working in a predominantly white corporate world.

why UNC over Duke, is it the state college effect?

Duke was more segregated. My perspective is dated so this could no longer be the case, and there were definitely plenty of exceptions to the rule, but there was a lot of pressure for black students to stick to themselves, which interestingly came more from their community than from being excluded by whites (though that also did happen).

I think Amherst has a black only dorm. Boggles my mind.

Ugh. Typical white tears. Amherst does not have a “Black only” dorm. It has a dorm where celebration of Black culture is a prerequisite for moving in. Like many other SLACs there are also other special interest dorms. Please take your anti DEI bs elsewhere. We get it, daring not to center White Christian culture at the expense of all others was just a bridge too far.

https://www.amherst.edu/campuslife/housing-dining/residential-life/theme/drew

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a Duke alum and it pains me to say it but I agree with UNC. I know a number of highly successful AA UNC alums from our generation (graduated around the 90s) who had a great experience at UNC. They developed a tight network there that has helped them professionally as well but also felt very comfortable working in a predominantly white corporate world.

why UNC over Duke, is it the state college effect?

Duke was more segregated. My perspective is dated so this could no longer be the case, and there were definitely plenty of exceptions to the rule, but there was a lot of pressure for black students to stick to themselves, which interestingly came more from their community than from being excluded by whites (though that also did happen).

I think Amherst has a black only dorm. Boggles my mind.

Ugh. Typical white tears. Amherst does not have a “Black only” dorm. It has a dorm where celebration of Black culture is a prerequisite for moving in. Like many other SLACs there are also other special interest dorms. Please take your anti DEI bs elsewhere. We get it, daring not to center White Christian culture at the expense of all others was just a bridge too far.

https://www.amherst.edu/campuslife/housing-dining/residential-life/theme/drew

Why are you responding to a 3 year old forum about a college who had 3% of its freshman class be black…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a Duke alum and it pains me to say it but I agree with UNC. I know a number of highly successful AA UNC alums from our generation (graduated around the 90s) who had a great experience at UNC. They developed a tight network there that has helped them professionally as well but also felt very comfortable working in a predominantly white corporate world.

why UNC over Duke, is it the state college effect?

Duke was more segregated. My perspective is dated so this could no longer be the case, and there were definitely plenty of exceptions to the rule, but there was a lot of pressure for black students to stick to themselves, which interestingly came more from their community than from being excluded by whites (though that also did happen).

I think Amherst has a black only dorm. Boggles my mind.

Ugh. Typical white tears. Amherst does not have a “Black only” dorm. It has a dorm where celebration of Black culture is a prerequisite for moving in. Like many other SLACs there are also other special interest dorms. Please take your anti DEI bs elsewhere. We get it, daring not to center White Christian culture at the expense of all others was just a bridge too far.

https://www.amherst.edu/campuslife/housing-dining/residential-life/theme/drew

Why are you responding to a 3 year old forum about a college who had 3% of its freshman class be black…

The comment was from earlier today. That’s why I responded. And yes, after a 100+ year history of being a welcoming environment for black students, Amherst is having some difficulty finding its footing in the new environment of Government hostility to “DEI.” If you’re going to be critical, at least understand the context you idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My (black) HS junior wants to go to an HBCU but I think he can do better than that. (I went to one of the best HBCUs myself, but I found that it was disorganized and did not challenge me to be my best.) My child grew up in predominantly white/Asian suburbs but nearly all his friends have been black. Can anyone recommend a college at a high academic level with a significant number of black students/professors?

Emory and Georgia Tech in Atlanta are options worth looking at.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My (black) HS junior wants to go to an HBCU but I think he can do better than that. (I went to one of the best HBCUs myself, but I found that it was disorganized and did not challenge me to be my best.) My child grew up in predominantly white/Asian suburbs but nearly all his friends have been black. Can anyone recommend a college at a high academic level with a significant number of black students/professors?

Emory and Georgia Tech in Atlanta are options worth looking at.

would add columbia, unc and duke

[Anonymous]

Possibly SEC schools

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Anonymous wrote:Possibly SEC schools

No, absolutely not.

[Anonymous]

Towson is pretty equal AA/white students (250 more white students out of over 15000 students.) It doesn't feel like like a PWC.

[Anonymous]

It might be time for your child to expand horizons beyond his comfort zone. The real world isn't all-Black, most professions aren't all-Black, and deliberately choosing to self-segregate during higher education will limit the development of interpersonal and cultural adaptation skills needed for success in the wider world.

It sounds like your child is qualified academically to go to any one of many reputable institutions, and he should use the same criteria most students do when deciding which to attend: size, location, quality of undergraduate teaching, facilities, cost, post-graduation job opportunities, post-graduate opportunities, etc. Racial composition would seem to be the least important criterion for a school unless the educational opportunity is secondary.

[Anonymous]

HWCU ?

[Anonymous]

OP are you still here? I'm curious, where did your kid decide to go?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a Duke alum and it pains me to say it but I agree with UNC. I know a number of highly successful AA UNC alums from our generation (graduated around the 90s) who had a great experience at UNC. They developed a tight network there that has helped them professionally as well but also felt very comfortable working in a predominantly white corporate world.

why UNC over Duke, is it the state college effect?

Duke was more segregated. My perspective is dated so this could no longer be the case, and there were definitely plenty of exceptions to the rule, but there was a lot of pressure for black students to stick to themselves, which interestingly came more from their community than from being excluded by whites (though that also did happen).

I think Amherst has a black only dorm. Boggles my mind.

Ugh. Typical white tears. Amherst does not have a “Black only” dorm. It has a dorm where celebration of Black culture is a prerequisite for moving in. Like many other SLACs there are also other special interest dorms. Please take your anti DEI bs elsewhere. We get it, daring not to center White Christian culture at the expense of all others was just a bridge too far.

https://www.amherst.edu/campuslife/housing-dining/residential-life/theme/drew

Why are you responding to a 3 year old forum about a college who had 3% of its freshman class be black…

Why didn't you ask the pp that this person was responding to? They responded to this old thread first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It might be time for your child to expand horizons beyond his comfort zone. The real world isn't all-Black, most professions aren't all-Black, and deliberately choosing to self-segregate during higher education will limit the development of interpersonal and cultural adaptation skills needed for success in the wider world.

It sounds like your child is qualified academically to go to any one of many reputable institutions, and he should use the same criteria most students do when deciding which to attend: size, location, quality of undergraduate teaching, facilities, cost, post-graduation job opportunities, post-graduate opportunities, etc. Racial composition would seem to be the least important criterion for a school unless the educational opportunity is secondary.

Go to an HBCU and start your own business, no need to be around people that question your IQ

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"At Amherst College, 18.2 percent of this year’s freshman class is Black, the seventh time in the past eight years that the institution has led the nation’s liberal arts college in African-American enrollment. . Following Amherst College this year was Pomona College at 14.5 percent and Williams College at 13.1 percent....Harvey Mudd College had the highest percentage increase in that period, with the number of Black freshman at the college climbing from 12 in 2014 to 28 this year, a 133.3 percent increase. Trinity College was second in recent gains at 60 percent and Haverford College was third with a 56.5 percent increase."

(https://afro.com/what-non-hbcu-colleges-have-highest-percentage-of-black-first-year-liberal-arts-students/)

+1 to this post. My African-American son is a senior and wasn't interested in an HBCU. Also grew up in DMV privates and neighborhoods with mostly wealthy white but close friends mostly (75%?) Black.

I encouraged HBCU (really only Morehouse or Howard but he had no interest). So the next was all the above top schools with significant Black populations. In addition to above, we looked at Oberlin and Bard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"At Amherst College, 18.2 percent of this year’s freshman class is Black, the seventh time in the past eight years that the institution has led the nation’s liberal arts college in African-American enrollment. . Following Amherst College this year was Pomona College at 14.5 percent and Williams College at 13.1 percent....Harvey Mudd College had the highest percentage increase in that period, with the number of Black freshman at the college climbing from 12 in 2014 to 28 this year, a 133.3 percent increase. Trinity College was second in recent gains at 60 percent and Haverford College was third with a 56.5 percent increase."

(https://afro.com/what-non-hbcu-colleges-have-highest-percentage-of-black-first-year-liberal-arts-students/)

+1 to this post. My African-American son is a senior and wasn't interested in an HBCU. Also grew up in DMV privates and neighborhoods with mostly wealthy white but close friends mostly (75%?) Black.

I encouraged HBCU (really only Morehouse or Howard but he had no interest). So the next was all the above top schools with significant Black populations. In addition to above, we looked at Oberlin and Bard.

All of these schools have 1/4 the black populations they had prior. Once class of 2027 is gone, you will see few non-asian/white kids around.