Alternatives to an HBCU?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm a Duke alum and it pains me to say it but I agree with UNC. I know a number of highly successful AA UNC alums from our generation (graduated around the 90s) who had a great experience at UNC. They developed a tight network there that has helped them professionally as well but also felt very comfortable working in a predominantly white corporate world.




why UNC over Duke, is it the state college effect?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a Duke alum and it pains me to say it but I agree with UNC. I know a number of highly successful AA UNC alums from our generation (graduated around the 90s) who had a great experience at UNC. They developed a tight network there that has helped them professionally as well but also felt very comfortable working in a predominantly white corporate world.




why UNC over Duke, is it the state college effect?


Duke was more segregated. My perspective is dated so this could no longer be the case, and there were definitely plenty of exceptions to the rule, but there was a lot of pressure for black students to stick to themselves, which interestingly came more from their community than from being excluded by whites (though that also did happen).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a Duke alum and it pains me to say it but I agree with UNC. I know a number of highly successful AA UNC alums from our generation (graduated around the 90s) who had a great experience at UNC. They developed a tight network there that has helped them professionally as well but also felt very comfortable working in a predominantly white corporate world.




why UNC over Duke, is it the state college effect?


Duke was more segregated. My perspective is dated so this could no longer be the case, and there were definitely plenty of exceptions to the rule, but there was a lot of pressure for black students to stick to themselves, which interestingly came more from their community than from being excluded by whites (though that also did happen).



good point
Anonymous
Not going to find one. Maybe compromise on a college in a city with Black people, like Atlanta.
Anonymous
A big state university will have a lot of Black people in a small area, even if the percentage isn't high.
Anonymous
What major?

STEM? Humanities? Business? Art?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:He'll find other black students anywhere. Other then HBCUs, you aren't going to find a high caliber school with a high percent of black students. My high stats black DC will go to the best school DC gets into. Throughout my professional life, I've been mostly one of the few blacks people in the room. Your DC might face that as an adult. I went to a predominantly white institutions but had many friends of color. Don't limit your DC by requiring a high percent of black students.


I'm a minority as well (not black) but student demographics were never a part of our kid's college decisions. Yes, it helps to have some with similar life experiences but no need to limit your friend group to one ethnicity or race or religion. We are a sum of people close to us, its better for humans to have a diverse community. Just my 2 cents.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a Duke alum and it pains me to say it but I agree with UNC. I know a number of highly successful AA UNC alums from our generation (graduated around the 90s) who had a great experience at UNC. They developed a tight network there that has helped them professionally as well but also felt very comfortable working in a predominantly white corporate world.




why UNC over Duke, is it the state college effect?


Duke was more segregated. My perspective is dated so this could no longer be the case, and there were definitely plenty of exceptions to the rule, but there was a lot of pressure for black students to stick to themselves, which interestingly came more from their community than from being excluded by whites (though that also did happen).


I think Amherst has a black only dorm. Boggles my mind.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I feel like HBCU are best for low income Black students, Flagship State colleges best for middle class Black people, and Ivy League best for rich Black People


Please tell you're not black as this is such a horrible take.

OP, as a HU grad myself, I implore you to look into some of the dual enrollment programs. Your kid can get the best of both worlds. For example, he can start his years at Morehouse and get a degree from there while also getting one from Georgia Tech. There are partnerships with Columbia, Notre Dame, Michigan, Brown, Dartmouth, Vanderbilt etc.
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Emory
Oberlin
George Washington U
Drexel
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Georgia Tech and UNC chapel hill


Large high ranked publics seem like a safe bet

I’d add UF and UGA


Very sorority/party-based social scene, not necessarily racist but not all that welcoming either


Don’t most colleges have all black fraternities and sororities as well?
Anonymous
Schools in Atlanta, DC and Philadelphia- where there are large African-American populations and lots of colleges and universities around . If the kids can find their social niche in a smaller college town or rural area, that’s great, but it may be easier in a big city.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel like HBCU are best for low income Black students, Flagship State colleges best for middle class Black people, and Ivy League best for rich Black People


Please tell you're not black as this is such a horrible take.

OP, as a HU grad myself, I implore you to look into some of the dual enrollment programs. Your kid can get the best of both worlds. For example, he can start his years at Morehouse and get a degree from there while also getting one from Georgia Tech. There are partnerships with Columbia, Notre Dame, Michigan, Brown, Dartmouth, Vanderbilt etc.


I was referring to preparation, not ability, of course i am generalizing, the average black income at Morehouse is 65K, state colleges is 110K, Ivy league is over 200K
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UMBC



And, if interested in STEM, have a look.


https://meyerhoff.umbc.edu/


Yes! Meyerhoff is a National Model for STEM excellence. Not sure what the future of the program might be with the assault on DEI initiatives in higher ed, but it's a very respected program.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I feel like HBCU are best for low income Black students, Flagship State colleges best for middle class Black people, and Ivy League best for rich Black People


Agree.
Also look at USC
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