Virginia students work to become first high school group to send liquid-fueled rocket into space

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Anonymous wrote:I think TJ students are working on Quantum Computer.

They must be gifted learners.

That is why it should takes more than 3.5 GPA to get admitted.

Realistically, it does. I strongly doubt there are more than a small handful of kids whose MS GPAs were below a 3.75 or so. You only have to have a 3.5 to apply and be eligible for selection. The average GPA of offered students was 3.95 or so, significantly higher than the 3.90 than it used to be.

Now, if the C4TJ people continue to push so hard that we end up with a lottery, then you might have this issue. But given that it will hurt their own kids to do so, I'd be surprised if they continue to push. FCPS should announce that if the stay isn't granted, they will move to a lottery.

Those fools will be in contempt of court if they used lottery. Let them try and find out.

What is the legal basis for your assertion that they will be in contempt of court?

There isn't one. They're just grasping at straws because they're terrified that they inadvertently screwed their kids over. Anyone who has even a tenuous grasp on admissions law knows that lotteries are expressly legal and in this case FCPS can argue that they did it because of the need for a quick solution that didn't require additional inputs.

Nah. A "quick solution" the defendants themselves created due to their deafness despite multiple warnings from the Court to come up with an alternative plan. Shows "bad faith" on the part of defendants so no that argument has sailed long time ago. Do better.

Had it ever occurred to you that the lottery might be the very alternative plan that they came up with? It is inarguable that they cannot seek additional inputs at this point.

You just wait and see what would happen if the defendants do present a "Lottery" system which I highly doubt those fools would even think about presenting given the potential consequences. One thing all judges despise the most is parties directly disobeying Court Order and parties playing games.

In their opposition to the stay, I believe Coalition for TJ said the easiest fix for this year was to get rid of "experience factors" and remove the 1.5% seat guarantee. Then just admit the top ranked kids based on the current essays.

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Anonymous wrote:I think TJ students are working on Quantum Computer.

They must be gifted learners.

That is why it should takes more than 3.5 GPA to get admitted.

Realistically, it does. I strongly doubt there are more than a small handful of kids whose MS GPAs were below a 3.75 or so. You only have to have a 3.5 to apply and be eligible for selection. The average GPA of offered students was 3.95 or so, significantly higher than the 3.90 than it used to be.

Now, if the C4TJ people continue to push so hard that we end up with a lottery, then you might have this issue. But given that it will hurt their own kids to do so, I'd be surprised if they continue to push. FCPS should announce that if the stay isn't granted, they will move to a lottery.

Those fools will be in contempt of court if they used lottery. Let them try and find out.

What is the legal basis for your assertion that they will be in contempt of court?

There isn't one. They're just grasping at straws because they're terrified that they inadvertently screwed their kids over. Anyone who has even a tenuous grasp on admissions law knows that lotteries are expressly legal and in this case FCPS can argue that they did it because of the need for a quick solution that didn't require additional inputs.

Nah. A "quick solution" the defendants themselves created due to their deafness despite multiple warnings from the Court to come up with an alternative plan. Shows "bad faith" on the part of defendants so no that argument has sailed long time ago. Do better.

Had it ever occurred to you that the lottery might be the very alternative plan that they came up with? It is inarguable that they cannot seek additional inputs at this point.

You just wait and see what would happen if the defendants do present a "Lottery" system which I highly doubt those fools would even think about presenting given the potential consequences. One thing all judges despise the most is parties directly disobeying Court Order and parties playing games.

You can literally hear the fear and desperation in these parents....

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Anonymous wrote:I think TJ students are working on Quantum Computer.

They must be gifted learners.

That is why it should takes more than 3.5 GPA to get admitted.

Realistically, it does. I strongly doubt there are more than a small handful of kids whose MS GPAs were below a 3.75 or so. You only have to have a 3.5 to apply and be eligible for selection. The average GPA of offered students was 3.95 or so, significantly higher than the 3.90 than it used to be.

Now, if the C4TJ people continue to push so hard that we end up with a lottery, then you might have this issue. But given that it will hurt their own kids to do so, I'd be surprised if they continue to push. FCPS should announce that if the stay isn't granted, they will move to a lottery.

Those fools will be in contempt of court if they used lottery. Let them try and find out.

What is the legal basis for your assertion that they will be in contempt of court?

There isn't one. They're just grasping at straws because they're terrified that they inadvertently screwed their kids over. Anyone who has even a tenuous grasp on admissions law knows that lotteries are expressly legal and in this case FCPS can argue that they did it because of the need for a quick solution that didn't require additional inputs.

Nah. A "quick solution" the defendants themselves created due to their deafness despite multiple warnings from the Court to come up with an alternative plan. Shows "bad faith" on the part of defendants so no that argument has sailed long time ago. Do better.

Had it ever occurred to you that the lottery might be the very alternative plan that they came up with? It is inarguable that they cannot seek additional inputs at this point.

You just wait and see what would happen if the defendants do present a "Lottery" system which I highly doubt those fools would even think about presenting given the potential consequences. One thing all judges despise the most is parties directly disobeying Court Order and parties playing games.

You can literally hear the fear and desperation in these parents....

+1.... how are they going to explain to their kids that their advocacy was directly responsible for their child's hard work going down the tubes when they'd have been fine if C4TJ had just left well enough alone

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Anonymous wrote:I think TJ students are working on Quantum Computer.

They must be gifted learners.

That is why it should takes more than 3.5 GPA to get admitted.

Realistically, it does. I strongly doubt there are more than a small handful of kids whose MS GPAs were below a 3.75 or so. You only have to have a 3.5 to apply and be eligible for selection. The average GPA of offered students was 3.95 or so, significantly higher than the 3.90 than it used to be.

Now, if the C4TJ people continue to push so hard that we end up with a lottery, then you might have this issue. But given that it will hurt their own kids to do so, I'd be surprised if they continue to push. FCPS should announce that if the stay isn't granted, they will move to a lottery.

Those fools will be in contempt of court if they used lottery. Let them try and find out.

What is the legal basis for your assertion that they will be in contempt of court?

There isn't one. They're just grasping at straws because they're terrified that they inadvertently screwed their kids over. Anyone who has even a tenuous grasp on admissions law knows that lotteries are expressly legal and in this case FCPS can argue that they did it because of the need for a quick solution that didn't require additional inputs.

Nah. A "quick solution" the defendants themselves created due to their deafness despite multiple warnings from the Court to come up with an alternative plan. Shows "bad faith" on the part of defendants so no that argument has sailed long time ago. Do better.

Had it ever occurred to you that the lottery might be the very alternative plan that they came up with? It is inarguable that they cannot seek additional inputs at this point.

You just wait and see what would happen if the defendants do present a "Lottery" system which I highly doubt those fools would even think about presenting given the potential consequences. One thing all judges despise the most is parties directly disobeying Court Order and parties playing games.

In their opposition to the stay, I believe Coalition for TJ said the easiest fix for this year was to get rid of "experience factors" and remove the 1.5% seat guarantee. Then just admit the top ranked kids based on the current essays.

Still think the most likely outcome is that the stay is granted, especially as new information has come out indicating that low-income Asians benefited greatly from the new process. Historically their numbers were in the "too-small" category just like Blacks and Hispanics (meaning less than ten), but under the new process they pulled 38 admits for the Class of 2025. This number deserves to be celebrated and is thrilling for all pro-reform advocates.

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Seems the real solution, if there are more qualified candidates then spots, is to open a second or third school. Reduce commute times as well.
Public education values for all are harmed by the creation and fostering of an elite school that cannot serve all qualified applicants.
Just add schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems the real solution, if there are more qualified candidates then spots, is to open a second or third school. Reduce commute times as well.
Public education values for all are harmed by the creation and fostering of an elite school that cannot serve all qualified applicants.
Just add schools.

The recent TJ renovation ended up costing north of $100 million. And that was with a pre-existing infrastructure.

It definitely would make sense to open one out in Herndon or thereabouts, but that pricetag is really rough, especially with a few high schools still set to undergo renovation.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems the real solution, if there are more qualified candidates then spots, is to open a second or third school. Reduce commute times as well.
Public education values for all are harmed by the creation and fostering of an elite school that cannot serve all qualified applicants.
Just add schools.

The recent TJ renovation ended up costing north of $100 million. And that was with a pre-existing infrastructure.

It definitely would make sense to open one out in Herndon or thereabouts, but that pricetag is really rough, especially with a few high schools still set to undergo renovation.

Don't forget about $20 million in lab equipment.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems the real solution, if there are more qualified candidates then spots, is to open a second or third school. Reduce commute times as well.
Public education values for all are harmed by the creation and fostering of an elite school that cannot serve all qualified applicants.
Just add schools.

The recent TJ renovation ended up costing north of $100 million. And that was with a pre-existing infrastructure.

It definitely would make sense to open one out in Herndon or thereabouts, but that pricetag is really rough, especially with a few high schools still set to undergo renovation.

Don't forget about $20 million in lab equipment.

If not more. The planetarium itself is probably about that much.

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Still think the most likely outcome is that the stay is granted, especially as new information has come out indicating that low-income Asians benefited greatly from the new process.

What is the evidence that this isn't people just saying yes to free lunch question?

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VMPI told us that calculus wasn't important in high school. These kids were in multivariate calculus and calculus based physics as well.

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Do you TJ coalition people ever get tired of thread jacking? Can't even have a nice post without you poisoning it. May be time to find a hobby.

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Anonymous wrote:I think TJ students are working on Quantum Computer.

They must be gifted learners.

That is why it should takes more than 3.5 GPA to get admitted.

Realistically, it does. I strongly doubt there are more than a small handful of kids whose MS GPAs were below a 3.75 or so. You only have to have a 3.5 to apply and be eligible for selection. The average GPA of offered students was 3.95 or so, significantly higher than the 3.90 than it used to be.

Now, if the C4TJ people continue to push so hard that we end up with a lottery, then you might have this issue. But given that it will hurt their own kids to do so, I'd be surprised if they continue to push. FCPS should announce that if the stay isn't granted, they will move to a lottery.

Those fools will be in contempt of court if they used lottery. Let them try and find out.

What is the legal basis for your assertion that they will be in contempt of court?

There isn't one. They're just grasping at straws because they're terrified that they inadvertently screwed their kids over. Anyone who has even a tenuous grasp on admissions law knows that lotteries are expressly legal and in this case FCPS can argue that they did it because of the need for a quick solution that didn't require additional inputs.

Nah. A "quick solution" the defendants themselves created due to their deafness despite multiple warnings from the Court to come up with an alternative plan. Shows "bad faith" on the part of defendants so no that argument has sailed long time ago. Do better.

Had it ever occurred to you that the lottery might be the very alternative plan that they came up with? It is inarguable that they cannot seek additional inputs at this point.

You just wait and see what would happen if the defendants do present a "Lottery" system which I highly doubt those fools would even think about presenting given the potential consequences. One thing all judges despise the most is parties directly disobeying Court Order and parties playing games.

In their opposition to the stay, I believe Coalition for TJ said the easiest fix for this year was to get rid of "experience factors" and remove the 1.5% seat guarantee. Then just admit the top ranked kids based on the current essays.

wow they just want to help the elite families who can afford and deny many gifted kids an opportunity

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Anonymous wrote:I think TJ students are working on Quantum Computer.

They must be gifted learners.

That is why it should takes more than 3.5 GPA to get admitted.

Realistically, it does. I strongly doubt there are more than a small handful of kids whose MS GPAs were below a 3.75 or so. You only have to have a 3.5 to apply and be eligible for selection. The average GPA of offered students was 3.95 or so, significantly higher than the 3.90 than it used to be.

Now, if the C4TJ people continue to push so hard that we end up with a lottery, then you might have this issue. But given that it will hurt their own kids to do so, I'd be surprised if they continue to push. FCPS should announce that if the stay isn't granted, they will move to a lottery.

Those fools will be in contempt of court if they used lottery. Let them try and find out.

What is the legal basis for your assertion that they will be in contempt of court?

There isn't one. They're just grasping at straws because they're terrified that they inadvertently screwed their kids over. Anyone who has even a tenuous grasp on admissions law knows that lotteries are expressly legal and in this case FCPS can argue that they did it because of the need for a quick solution that didn't require additional inputs.

Nah. A "quick solution" the defendants themselves created due to their deafness despite multiple warnings from the Court to come up with an alternative plan. Shows "bad faith" on the part of defendants so no that argument has sailed long time ago. Do better.

Had it ever occurred to you that the lottery might be the very alternative plan that they came up with? It is inarguable that they cannot seek additional inputs at this point.

You just wait and see what would happen if the defendants do present a "Lottery" system which I highly doubt those fools would even think about presenting given the potential consequences. One thing all judges despise the most is parties directly disobeying Court Order and parties playing games.

You can literally hear the fear and desperation in these parents....

It is kind of ironic that their desire for a small but unfair advantage to game the system will ultimately for FCPS to go to a lottery system.

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Anonymous wrote:I think TJ students are working on Quantum Computer.

They must be gifted learners.

That is why it should takes more than 3.5 GPA to get admitted.

Realistically, it does. I strongly doubt there are more than a small handful of kids whose MS GPAs were below a 3.75 or so. You only have to have a 3.5 to apply and be eligible for selection. The average GPA of offered students was 3.95 or so, significantly higher than the 3.90 than it used to be.

Now, if the C4TJ people continue to push so hard that we end up with a lottery, then you might have this issue. But given that it will hurt their own kids to do so, I'd be surprised if they continue to push. FCPS should announce that if the stay isn't granted, they will move to a lottery.

Those fools will be in contempt of court if they used lottery. Let them try and find out.

What is the legal basis for your assertion that they will be in contempt of court?

There isn't one. They're just grasping at straws because they're terrified that they inadvertently screwed their kids over. Anyone who has even a tenuous grasp on admissions law knows that lotteries are expressly legal and in this case FCPS can argue that they did it because of the need for a quick solution that didn't require additional inputs.

Nah. A "quick solution" the defendants themselves created due to their deafness despite multiple warnings from the Court to come up with an alternative plan. Shows "bad faith" on the part of defendants so no that argument has sailed long time ago. Do better.

Had it ever occurred to you that the lottery might be the very alternative plan that they came up with? It is inarguable that they cannot seek additional inputs at this point.

You just wait and see what would happen if the defendants do present a "Lottery" system which I highly doubt those fools would even think about presenting given the potential consequences. One thing all judges despise the most is parties directly disobeying Court Order and parties playing games.

You can literally hear the fear and desperation in these parents....

It is kind of ironic that their desire for a small but unfair advantage to game the system will ultimately for FCPS to go to a lottery system.

It is kind of ironic that that board's desire for a small but unfair advantage for their cronies to game the system will ultimately lead them to demise and have a lasting precedent against affirmative action.

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In their opposition to the stay, I believe Coalition for TJ said the easiest fix for this year was to get rid of "experience factors" and remove the 1.5% seat guarantee. Then just admit the top ranked kids based on the current essays.

wow they just want to help the elite families who can afford and deny many gifted kids an opportunity

If they were gifted they wouldn't need the bonus for experience factors.