Boiling water for formula

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so confused by this thread. Is this specifically a question on how to use recalled formula?? The CDC guidelines make no mention of boiling water and say tap water is generally fine. I was instructed to use distilled water for my full term baby upon discharge from the hospital. I still use it and only avoid tap to avoid any fluoride. https://www.cdc.gov/nutrition/downloads/prepare-store-powered-infant-formula-508.pdf

If you read it closely it also says: If your baby is younger than 3 months old, was born prematurely, or has a
weakened immune system, you may want to take extra precautions when preparing infant formula.
Visit https://www.cdc.gov/cronobacter/infection-and-infants.html to learn more

Note the you MAY want to. Not you "should" etc. Only 2-4 infections/year are reported to the CDC it is a rare risk much more rare than burns due to boiling water infants... In any case I used filtered tap to prepare formula when my baby was less than 3 months and she was fine. Really depends on resources and risk avoidance. I would be more risk avoidant if she was a preemie or had immune system or other health issues.

You are being defensive maybe because you want to justify you did right by your baby. Best practices is to used boiled water. If those four babies had formula that used boiled water to sterilize even though the formula had cronobacter they wouldn’t be dead or seriously injured. Your baby is just lucky he or she didn’t encounter contaminated formula. It’s a BEST practice, just like you shouldn’t eat deli meat or sushi or go to a hot tub. I don’t understand why you keep stressing this point, deal with your mom guilt. We are discussing best practices in view of recent infant deaths.

[Anonymous]

We used room temp tap water and mixed the formula in. Worked great and we had no issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so confused by this thread. Is this specifically a question on how to use recalled formula?? The CDC guidelines make no mention of boiling water and say tap water is generally fine. I was instructed to use distilled water for my full term baby upon discharge from the hospital. I still use it and only avoid tap to avoid any fluoride. https://www.cdc.gov/nutrition/downloads/prepare-store-powered-infant-formula-508.pdf

If you read it closely it also says: If your baby is younger than 3 months old, was born prematurely, or has a
weakened immune system, you may want to take extra precautions when preparing infant formula.
Visit https://www.cdc.gov/cronobacter/infection-and-infants.html to learn more

Note the you MAY want to. Not you "should" etc. Only 2-4 infections/year are reported to the CDC it is a rare risk much more rare than burns due to boiling water infants... In any case I used filtered tap to prepare formula when my baby was less than 3 months and she was fine. Really depends on resources and risk avoidance. I would be more risk avoidant if she was a preemie or had immune system or other health issues.

You are being defensive maybe because you want to justify you did right by your baby. Best practices is to used boiled water. If those four babies had formula that used boiled water to sterilize even though the formula had cronobacter they wouldn’t be dead or seriously injured. Your baby is just lucky he or she didn’t encounter contaminated formula. It’s a BEST practice, just like you shouldn’t eat deli meat or sushi or go to a hot tub. I don’t understand why you keep stressing this point, deal with your mom guilt. We are discussing best practices in view of recent infant deaths.

I have ZERO mom guilt and I’m the one who provided the links to best practices in the first place and pointed out to the pp the fine print in the CDC‘s instructions. I did the best I could for my child when it comes to formula. I am a rational person not an anxiety driven one.

[Anonymous]

I used RTF because I was super nervous about this. We used it for the first 4 months to supplement breastfeeding. Then we went to room temp filtered water.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so confused by this thread. Is this specifically a question on how to use recalled formula?? The CDC guidelines make no mention of boiling water and say tap water is generally fine. I was instructed to use distilled water for my full term baby upon discharge from the hospital. I still use it and only avoid tap to avoid any fluoride. https://www.cdc.gov/nutrition/downloads/prepare-store-powered-infant-formula-508.pdf

If you read it closely it also says: If your baby is younger than 3 months old, was born prematurely, or has a
weakened immune system, you may want to take extra precautions when preparing infant formula.
Visit https://www.cdc.gov/cronobacter/infection-and-infants.html to learn more

Note the you MAY want to. Not you "should" etc. Only 2-4 infections/year are reported to the CDC it is a rare risk much more rare than burns due to boiling water infants... In any case I used filtered tap to prepare formula when my baby was less than 3 months and she was fine. Really depends on resources and risk avoidance. I would be more risk avoidant if she was a preemie or had immune system or other health issues.

You are being defensive maybe because you want to justify you did right by your baby. Best practices is to used boiled water. If those four babies had formula that used boiled water to sterilize even though the formula had cronobacter they wouldn’t be dead or seriously injured. Your baby is just lucky he or she didn’t encounter contaminated formula. It’s a BEST practice, just like you shouldn’t eat deli meat or sushi or go to a hot tub. I don’t understand why you keep stressing this point, deal with your mom guilt. We are discussing best practices in view of recent infant deaths.

I have ZERO mom guilt and I’m the one who provided the links to best practices in the first place and pointed out to the pp the fine print in the CDC‘s instructions. I did the best I could for my child when it comes to formula. I am a rational person not an anxiety driven one.

Best practice is to sterilize formula powder or use rtf under three months. You cannot avoid cronobacter. Cronobacter is under reported as hospitals are not required to report it. It’s a best practice. You keep insisting you used room temp water so it’s ok. It’s time to give it a rest. OP is asking for best practices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so confused by this thread. Is this specifically a question on how to use recalled formula?? The CDC guidelines make no mention of boiling water and say tap water is generally fine. I was instructed to use distilled water for my full term baby upon discharge from the hospital. I still use it and only avoid tap to avoid any fluoride. https://www.cdc.gov/nutrition/downloads/prepare-store-powered-infant-formula-508.pdf

If you read it closely it also says: If your baby is younger than 3 months old, was born prematurely, or has a
weakened immune system, you may want to take extra precautions when preparing infant formula.
Visit https://www.cdc.gov/cronobacter/infection-and-infants.html to learn more

Note the you MAY want to. Not you "should" etc. Only 2-4 infections/year are reported to the CDC it is a rare risk much more rare than burns due to boiling water infants... In any case I used filtered tap to prepare formula when my baby was less than 3 months and she was fine. Really depends on resources and risk avoidance. I would be more risk avoidant if she was a preemie or had immune system or other health issues.

You are being defensive maybe because you want to justify you did right by your baby. Best practices is to used boiled water. If those four babies had formula that used boiled water to sterilize even though the formula had cronobacter they wouldn’t be dead or seriously injured. Your baby is just lucky he or she didn’t encounter contaminated formula. It’s a BEST practice, just like you shouldn’t eat deli meat or sushi or go to a hot tub. I don’t understand why you keep stressing this point, deal with your mom guilt. We are discussing best practices in view of recent infant deaths.

I have ZERO mom guilt and I’m the one who provided the links to best practices in the first place and pointed out to the pp the fine print in the CDC‘s instructions. I did the best I could for my child when it comes to formula. I am a rational person not an anxiety driven one.

Best practice is to sterilize formula powder or use rtf under three months. You cannot avoid cronobacter. Cronobacter is under reported as hospitals are not required to report it. It’s a best practice. You keep insisting you used room temp water so it’s ok. It’s time to give it a rest. OP is asking for best practices.

Yes and I’ve provided multiple links about best practices and pointed out the flaw in the pp reasoning about the cdc link. Not sure what your reading comprehension problem is.

[Anonymous]

We used filtered water straight from the fridge dispenser, no boiling, per our pediatricians recommendation. We had no issues, and it was certainly much easier than adding boiling a ton of water to the long list of daily tasks during the newborn stage. If you are concerned, you are much better off speaking to your pediatrician rather than random strangers on the internet, many of whom seem hell bent on making things as difficult and anxiety-inducing as possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We used filtered water straight from the fridge dispenser, no boiling, per our pediatricians recommendation. We had no issues, and it was certainly much easier than adding boiling a ton of water to the long list of daily tasks during the newborn stage. If you are concerned, you are much better off speaking to your pediatrician rather than random strangers on the internet, many of whom seem hell bent on making things as difficult and anxiety-inducing as possible.

Your pediatrician said to give your newborn refrigerator cold formula??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We used filtered water straight from the fridge dispenser, no boiling, per our pediatricians recommendation. We had no issues, and it was certainly much easier than adding boiling a ton of water to the long list of daily tasks during the newborn stage. If you are concerned, you are much better off speaking to your pediatrician rather than random strangers on the internet, many of whom seem hell bent on making things as difficult and anxiety-inducing as possible.

Your pediatrician said to give your newborn refrigerator cold formula??

NP- my harvests educated ped told us the same thing. This is not that controversial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so confused by this thread. Is this specifically a question on how to use recalled formula?? The CDC guidelines make no mention of boiling water and say tap water is generally fine. I was instructed to use distilled water for my full term baby upon discharge from the hospital. I still use it and only avoid tap to avoid any fluoride. https://www.cdc.gov/nutrition/downloads/prepare-store-powered-infant-formula-508.pdf

If you read it closely it also says: If your baby is younger than 3 months old, was born prematurely, or has a
weakened immune system, you may want to take extra precautions when preparing infant formula.
Visit https://www.cdc.gov/cronobacter/infection-and-infants.html to learn more

Note the you MAY want to. Not you "should" etc. Only 2-4 infections/year are reported to the CDC it is a rare risk much more rare than burns due to boiling water infants... In any case I used filtered tap to prepare formula when my baby was less than 3 months and she was fine. Really depends on resources and risk avoidance. I would be more risk avoidant if she was a preemie or had immune system or other health issues.

You are being defensive maybe because you want to justify you did right by your baby. Best practices is to used boiled water. If those four babies had formula that used boiled water to sterilize even though the formula had cronobacter they wouldn’t be dead or seriously injured. Your baby is just lucky he or she didn’t encounter contaminated formula. It’s a BEST practice, just like you shouldn’t eat deli meat or sushi or go to a hot tub. I don’t understand why you keep stressing this point, deal with your mom guilt. We are discussing best practices in view of recent infant deaths.

I have ZERO mom guilt and I’m the one who provided the links to best practices in the first place and pointed out to the pp the fine print in the CDC‘s instructions. I did the best I could for my child when it comes to formula. I am a rational person not an anxiety driven one.

Best practice is to sterilize formula powder or use rtf under three months. You cannot avoid cronobacter. Cronobacter is under reported as hospitals are not required to report it. It’s a best practice. You keep insisting you used room temp water so it’s ok. It’s time to give it a rest. OP is asking for best practices.

Yes and I’ve provided multiple links about best practices and pointed out the flaw in the pp reasoning about the cdc link. Not sure what your reading comprehension problem is.

You provided that one formula study. I provided the cdc recommendation. It suggests that under 3 months if you are worried about cronobacter to use boiling water to sterilize formula. Four babies are dead because of cronobacter. If they prepared the recalled powder with boiling water they won’t be dead. This is standard practice in europe for normal babies as you suggest. So I don’t know what you are arguing against.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We used filtered water straight from the fridge dispenser, no boiling, per our pediatricians recommendation. We had no issues, and it was certainly much easier than adding boiling a ton of water to the long list of daily tasks during the newborn stage. If you are concerned, you are much better off speaking to your pediatrician rather than random strangers on the internet, many of whom seem hell bent on making things as difficult and anxiety-inducing as possible.

Your pediatrician said to give your newborn refrigerator cold formula??

NP- my harvests educated ped told us the same thing. This is not that controversial.

American pediatricians aren’t up to date on formula preparation. In view of this massive recall their recommendations may change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so confused by this thread. Is this specifically a question on how to use recalled formula?? The CDC guidelines make no mention of boiling water and say tap water is generally fine. I was instructed to use distilled water for my full term baby upon discharge from the hospital. I still use it and only avoid tap to avoid any fluoride. https://www.cdc.gov/nutrition/downloads/prepare-store-powered-infant-formula-508.pdf

If you read it closely it also says: If your baby is younger than 3 months old, was born prematurely, or has a
weakened immune system, you may want to take extra precautions when preparing infant formula.
Visit https://www.cdc.gov/cronobacter/infection-and-infants.html to learn more

Note the you MAY want to. Not you "should" etc. Only 2-4 infections/year are reported to the CDC it is a rare risk much more rare than burns due to boiling water infants... In any case I used filtered tap to prepare formula when my baby was less than 3 months and she was fine. Really depends on resources and risk avoidance. I would be more risk avoidant if she was a preemie or had immune system or other health issues.

You are being defensive maybe because you want to justify you did right by your baby. Best practices is to used boiled water. If those four babies had formula that used boiled water to sterilize even though the formula had cronobacter they wouldn’t be dead or seriously injured. Your baby is just lucky he or she didn’t encounter contaminated formula. It’s a BEST practice, just like you shouldn’t eat deli meat or sushi or go to a hot tub. I don’t understand why you keep stressing this point, deal with your mom guilt. We are discussing best practices in view of recent infant deaths.

I have ZERO mom guilt and I’m the one who provided the links to best practices in the first place and pointed out to the pp the fine print in the CDC‘s instructions. I did the best I could for my child when it comes to formula. I am a rational person not an anxiety driven one.

Best practice is to sterilize formula powder or use rtf under three months. You cannot avoid cronobacter. Cronobacter is under reported as hospitals are not required to report it. It’s a best practice. You keep insisting you used room temp water so it’s ok. It’s time to give it a rest. OP is asking for best practices.

Yes and I’ve provided multiple links about best practices and pointed out the flaw in the pp reasoning about the cdc link. Not sure what your reading comprehension problem is.

All I can tell is that you had your baby awhile back, you did things a certain way and are resistant to new information telling you a better way to be safer. Your opinion also don’t count because you don’t have a baby during this formula recall. Food safety is going down the tubes and parents need to be aware of a safer practice that is standard in other countries.

[Anonymous]

If you avoided sushi, hot tubs, and deli meat during pregnancy on the small chance that you could contract illness that could harm the baby, you can extend that to sterilizing your kids formula on the small chance it is contaminated when your child is under three months of age or feed them rtf.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so confused by this thread. Is this specifically a question on how to use recalled formula?? The CDC guidelines make no mention of boiling water and say tap water is generally fine. I was instructed to use distilled water for my full term baby upon discharge from the hospital. I still use it and only avoid tap to avoid any fluoride. https://www.cdc.gov/nutrition/downloads/prepare-store-powered-infant-formula-508.pdf

If you read it closely it also says: If your baby is younger than 3 months old, was born prematurely, or has a
weakened immune system, you may want to take extra precautions when preparing infant formula.
Visit https://www.cdc.gov/cronobacter/infection-and-infants.html to learn more

Note the you MAY want to. Not you "should" etc. Only 2-4 infections/year are reported to the CDC it is a rare risk much more rare than burns due to boiling water infants... In any case I used filtered tap to prepare formula when my baby was less than 3 months and she was fine. Really depends on resources and risk avoidance. I would be more risk avoidant if she was a preemie or had immune system or other health issues.

You are being defensive maybe because you want to justify you did right by your baby. Best practices is to used boiled water. If those four babies had formula that used boiled water to sterilize even though the formula had cronobacter they wouldn’t be dead or seriously injured. Your baby is just lucky he or she didn’t encounter contaminated formula. It’s a BEST practice, just like you shouldn’t eat deli meat or sushi or go to a hot tub. I don’t understand why you keep stressing this point, deal with your mom guilt. We are discussing best practices in view of recent infant deaths.

I have ZERO mom guilt and I’m the one who provided the links to best practices in the first place and pointed out to the pp the fine print in the CDC‘s instructions. I did the best I could for my child when it comes to formula. I am a rational person not an anxiety driven one.

Best practice is to sterilize formula powder or use rtf under three months. You cannot avoid cronobacter. Cronobacter is under reported as hospitals are not required to report it. It’s a best practice. You keep insisting you used room temp water so it’s ok. It’s time to give it a rest. OP is asking for best practices.

Yes and I’ve provided multiple links about best practices and pointed out the flaw in the pp reasoning about the cdc link. Not sure what your reading comprehension problem is.

All I can tell is that you had your baby awhile back, you did things a certain way and are resistant to new information telling you a better way to be safer. Your opinion also don’t count because you don’t have a baby during this formula recall. Food safety is going down the tubes and parents need to be aware of a safer practice that is standard in other countries.

12 years ago the recommendation was to use ready to feed early on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so confused by this thread. Is this specifically a question on how to use recalled formula?? The CDC guidelines make no mention of boiling water and say tap water is generally fine. I was instructed to use distilled water for my full term baby upon discharge from the hospital. I still use it and only avoid tap to avoid any fluoride. https://www.cdc.gov/nutrition/downloads/prepare-store-powered-infant-formula-508.pdf

If you read it closely it also says: If your baby is younger than 3 months old, was born prematurely, or has a
weakened immune system, you may want to take extra precautions when preparing infant formula.
Visit https://www.cdc.gov/cronobacter/infection-and-infants.html to learn more

Note the you MAY want to. Not you "should" etc. Only 2-4 infections/year are reported to the CDC it is a rare risk much more rare than burns due to boiling water infants... In any case I used filtered tap to prepare formula when my baby was less than 3 months and she was fine. Really depends on resources and risk avoidance. I would be more risk avoidant if she was a preemie or had immune system or other health issues.

You are being defensive maybe because you want to justify you did right by your baby. Best practices is to used boiled water. If those four babies had formula that used boiled water to sterilize even though the formula had cronobacter they wouldn’t be dead or seriously injured. Your baby is just lucky he or she didn’t encounter contaminated formula. It’s a BEST practice, just like you shouldn’t eat deli meat or sushi or go to a hot tub. I don’t understand why you keep stressing this point, deal with your mom guilt. We are discussing best practices in view of recent infant deaths.

I have ZERO mom guilt and I’m the one who provided the links to best practices in the first place and pointed out to the pp the fine print in the CDC‘s instructions. I did the best I could for my child when it comes to formula. I am a rational person not an anxiety driven one.

Best practice is to sterilize formula powder or use rtf under three months. You cannot avoid cronobacter. Cronobacter is under reported as hospitals are not required to report it. It’s a best practice. You keep insisting you used room temp water so it’s ok. It’s time to give it a rest. OP is asking for best practices.

Yes and I’ve provided multiple links about best practices and pointed out the flaw in the pp reasoning about the cdc link. Not sure what your reading comprehension problem is.

All I can tell is that you had your baby awhile back, you did things a certain way and are resistant to new information telling you a better way to be safer. Your opinion also don’t count because you don’t have a baby during this formula recall. Food safety is going down the tubes and parents need to be aware of a safer practice that is standard in other countries.

12 years ago the recommendation was to use ready to feed early on.

And that recommendation ready to feed was for the same reason as now - possible contamination from cronobacter. With the push for breastfeeding the education on how to safely feed formula has been lost. There are breastfeeding classes but no education on formula prep. The rec now is still the same, for at least the first three months use ready to feed or sterilize formula powder. Parents take so much pains buying nursery water or filtering water, but there is no education on the formula component.

The PP using one formula study and harping on about how her kid didn’t die and hence it’s ok is ignoring new information (or relearned information).