Boiling water for formula

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don’t ask DCUM! You will get crazy answers. The person who linked to CDC and WHO and AAP above is correct. There is conflicting advice. Most new moms don’t even know this advice so they just use the water they drink and it works out fine. But that’s not what CDC and WHO and AAP recommend. It’s not about cleanliness of the water. It’s about bacteria in the formula.

Ok but no one has provided an answer about what temperature the water needs to be to kill cronobacter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am so tired of people in the us not getting good information on how to prepare formula. Even the Europeans are more up to date on this than is. This thread is proof of that. Those babies in the formula recalled died as the powder had cronobacter and was not sterilized. To kill cronobacter but preserve the nutrients in the formula powder you have to use hot water to prepare, but not so hot it will destroy nutrients. The way I used to do it was add hot water to the formula powder and then since the powder is then sterilized cold water to cool it down and make a warm bottle of formula. All those people talking about tap water, you were lucky. The hot water is not for the quality of the water, it’s the formula powder that’s the issue. You need to sterilize it.

People on this thread have said that. Do you have a source for what temperature cronerbacter is killed?

Check WHO and CDC guidelines on how to prepare infant formula.

[Anonymous]

I’ve used filtered water from a Brita for three kids, no issues. Get your baby used to cold or room temp water, it will make your life a lot easier.

[Anonymous]

The CDC says 158 F. What I use to do is use the Zojirushi water boiler that stores hot water. It has a formula option that keeps the water hot at a temperature appropriate to prepare formula at.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve used filtered water from a Brita for three kids, no issues. Get your baby used to cold or room temp water, it will make your life a lot easier.

And again, you are doing it wrong as you are not sterilizing the powder that could cause serious illness in babies.

[Anonymous]

Here’s a link to the zojirushi boiler. Add the hot water to the formula, then once it’s sterilized add cold water for the perfect bottle.

https://www.amazon.com/Zojirushi-586361-CV-DCC40XT-America-Corporation-Stainless/dp/B00R4HKIV8/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?adgrpid=55223447239&gclid=CjwKCAiAsYyRBhACEiwAkJFKolpvrNOP74tDBqs4mLA7-3WQ4GmPSpoG2DOLnSlIAd6g9z2jhSyudxoCgikQAvD_BwE&hvadid=274685262222&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9061219&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=7846200434369077368&hvtargid=kwd-302882971436&hydadcr=14863_10218904&keywords=zojirushi+water+boiler&qid=1646497530&sr=8-4

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t ask DCUM! You will get crazy answers. The person who linked to CDC and WHO and AAP above is correct. There is conflicting advice. Most new moms don’t even know this advice so they just use the water they drink and it works out fine. But that’s not what CDC and WHO and AAP recommend. It’s not about cleanliness of the water. It’s about bacteria in the formula.

Ok but no one has provided an answer about what temperature the water needs to be to kill cronobacter.

Check CDC and WHO websites. My memory is that the water has to be boiling but my youngest is 5 so don’t rely on me. I do remember deciding to use the liquid version of formula until she was old enough to not be at high risk from bacteria in formula bc boiling water to make bottles was more than I could handle just then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve used filtered water from a Brita for three kids, no issues. Get your baby used to cold or room temp water, it will make your life a lot easier.

This is not the question. A friend of mine grew up riding in a cardboard box in the backseat of a station wagon instead of in a car seat. No issues. OP is asking what you’re “supposed” to do.

[Anonymous]

I just use bottled water. Boiling is too much of a hassle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just use bottled water. Boiling is too much of a hassle.

It’s not an issue with the water. It’s an issue of preparing the powder so it’s sterilized.

[Anonymous]

And this is why formula machines such as baby Brezzas are such pieces of crap because they again don’t use hot water to sterilize powder. In fact, they are potentially hazardous as they hold bodies of water at body temperature- the perfect setting for contaminated formula bacteria to multiply. The UK used to have a machine that dosed the powder with a splash of hot water before adding cold water but they discontinued it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve used filtered water from a Brita for three kids, no issues. Get your baby used to cold or room temp water, it will make your life a lot easier.

This is not the question. A friend of mine grew up riding in a cardboard box in the backseat of a station wagon instead of in a car seat. No issues. OP is asking what you’re “supposed” to do.

The CDC and AAP websites just say to boil the water, prepare the formula, and let it cool before giving to baby. Do you need a bunch of internet strangers to reiterate that to you on DCUM?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve used filtered water from a Brita for three kids, no issues. Get your baby used to cold or room temp water, it will make your life a lot easier.

This is not the question. A friend of mine grew up riding in a cardboard box in the backseat of a station wagon instead of in a car seat. No issues. OP is asking what you’re “supposed” to do.

The CDC and AAP websites just say to boil the water, prepare the formula, and let it cool before giving to baby. Do you need a bunch of internet strangers to reiterate that to you on DCUM?

I’m not sure who you’re asking “if you need that to be reiterated” but I’m guessing OP hadn’t read those websites before she posted. It sounds like she was going off of what she was told in the hospital.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You are supposed to boil the water and let it cool to 98.6 degrees or so (body temperature) before mixing. Don’t mix the formula with boiling water! Boil enough for the whole day. We filtered the water, boiled it, then let it cool in an aluminum lined thermos-type jug (meant to hold coffee, I think).

Depends on who you follow. WHO and CDC add formula to boiling water then cool. AAP boil water, let it cook then add formula.
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/143/6/e20182525/37124/Mixed-Message-on-Formula-Mixing

To add-- the AAP says "if one is concerned or uncertain," not that everyone should.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are supposed to boil the water and let it cool to 98.6 degrees or so (body temperature) before mixing. Don’t mix the formula with boiling water! Boil enough for the whole day. We filtered the water, boiled it, then let it cool in an aluminum lined thermos-type jug (meant to hold coffee, I think).

Depends on who you follow. WHO and CDC add formula to boiling water then cool. AAP boil water, let it cook then add formula.
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/143/6/e20182525/37124/Mixed-Message-on-Formula-Mixing

To add-- the AAP says "if one is concerned or uncertain," not that everyone should.

I posted the link and that is an important point. I’m also one who used filtered tap water and never warmed a bottle. The other issue not addressed is the baby. A robust healthy full term baby will do fine with non boiled tap water. Preemies, immunocompromised, other health issues - I would definitely be more conservative depending on the situation - but in those cases would go with ready to feed since the other point of the linked article is that boiling water can be a lot for parents. (Not everyone can afford the zojurishi)