MCPS wants $180 million more but is cutting teachers and counselors

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Anonymous wrote:If there is someone that has the time to figure out and summarize where the increases are going, I think many of us would REALLY appreciate it. Thank you.


This please in a bullet point to the fact like a Katie Porter whiteboard display to Congress
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Anonymous wrote:Ya’ll are amazing. The Operating Budget plan has been available for review for 2 months including community comment. MCCPTA can barely get anyone to sit on the committee to review the budget. The BOR has had (3)Operating Budget hearings and (4) Work sessions to review every part of the operating budget, all of which are recorded so can still be reviewed. But, today after one article is published, one that seems barely researched, ya’ll have concern and complaint, and all without having reviewed said budget yourselves???

And folks wonder why America has problems.


Are you staying that the article is incorrect? That they are not adding 7 central staff positions? Nobody is reading an over 400 page budget. Of course we are going to rely on synopsis. But if the article is incorrect, please share your insight. I would truly appreciate it.

They are not arguing that the report is incorrect. Instead they engaging in an ad hominem attack. They are also engaging in an attack on journalism.


I’m suggesting people actually read through the budget themselves and ask questions or at the least watch the Operating budget work session where the entire thing is discussed. The journalism in this article is poor as it provides no detail, answers no questions about why, and relies on one table in a budget that you all note is 431 pages. And yet, this board has taken the news article as Gospel and started complaining. Why? If you won’t even take the time to review the budget why are you complaining? Why are you attacking MCPS about not being transparent or doing what’s right when apparently you have no interest in engaging in the actual process. Some of ya’ll would say Fox news watchers are low information persons who don’t use logic, but how are ya’ll displaying yourselves to be any different than them in this case?

If you care about the budget and want to know what it represents, go watch the Operating Budget Work sessions and hearings. It’s not someone else’s responsibility to give you all the details, especially not on this forum. You have the tools and opportunity, whether you use them is on you. If you won’t that fine, but at least admit you don’t actually care and just like complaining.



LOL Don’t read an actual budget that plainly states a fact! Go listen to hours and hours of MCPS staff lying to Board members and covering up the details!
Staff will NEVER discuss the details in public.


And yet they spent hours doing just that.


Hours and hours lying? Yes that was done!
MCPS staff never give the board of Ed details. Never.
The Board of Education never reviews one.single.contract.ever.
Staff can spend hours blathering BS and the board as no idea if any of it is true.


So then what makes you believe the budget document has any more truth? I don’t see a mass of people willing to run for BOE.
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Anonymous wrote:The budget shows the priorities of MCPS. Expand Central Office, give government money away to connections via contracts, and cut services to students.

We need MORE teachers and counselors. There’s still learning loss from online learning and we barely made a dent this year.


Where was Central Office during Covid when our schools were short staffed due to teachers out sick, no subs, paras out sick, no subs? So they take away more staff needed in schools and add more to the Winter vacation crew?


+1 There’s a complete disconnect from the Central Office administrators (who line their own pockets with high pay and benefits) and the front line staff working with students. More of the MCPS resources need to go to schools - not Central Office or contract hires.

MCPS Central Office is operating under the premise “greed is good”. The budget spells out that teachers and counselors are not appreciated in the school system. Hard to maintain and attract staff under these types of bare bones staffing initiatives in the place it benefits students the most - in the classroom.
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I work at a school where a counseling position was cut. This is a counseling office that is basically a revolving door of kids with constant crises. I would quit.
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Anonymous wrote:Ya’ll are amazing. The Operating Budget plan has been available for review for 2 months including community comment. MCCPTA can barely get anyone to sit on the committee to review the budget. The BOR has had (3)Operating Budget hearings and (4) Work sessions to review every part of the operating budget, all of which are recorded so can still be reviewed. But, today after one article is published, one that seems barely researched, ya’ll have concern and complaint, and all without having reviewed said budget yourselves???

And folks wonder why America has problems.


Are you staying that the article is incorrect? That they are not adding 7 central staff positions? Nobody is reading an over 400 page budget. Of course we are going to rely on synopsis. But if the article is incorrect, please share your insight. I would truly appreciate it.

They are not arguing that the report is incorrect. Instead they engaging in an ad hominem attack. They are also engaging in an attack on journalism.


I’m suggesting people actually read through the budget themselves and ask questions or at the least watch the Operating budget work session where the entire thing is discussed. The journalism in this article is poor as it provides no detail, answers no questions about why, and relies on one table in a budget that you all note is 431 pages. And yet, this board has taken the news article as Gospel and started complaining. Why? If you won’t even take the time to review the budget why are you complaining? Why are you attacking MCPS about not being transparent or doing what’s right when apparently you have no interest in engaging in the actual process. Some of ya’ll would say Fox news watchers are low information persons who don’t use logic, but how are ya’ll displaying yourselves to be any different than them in this case?

If you care about the budget and want to know what it represents, go watch the Operating Budget Work sessions and hearings. It’s not someone else’s responsibility to give you all the details, especially not on this forum. You have the tools and opportunity, whether you use them is on you. If you won’t that fine, but at least admit you don’t actually care and just like complaining.


You are ridiculous. Do you also recommend that people sit through videos of the legislative sessions for every law that affects them? What about attending court for every case discussing an important law?

This is precisely why the news exists.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:If there is someone that has the time to figure out and summarize where the increases are going, I think many of us would REALLY appreciate it. Thank you.


This please in a bullet point to the fact like a Katie Porter whiteboard display to Congress


Although they seem to be cutting some positions, the OPs statement that it's going CO bloat isn't at all clear which makes me suspect that they aren't being honest.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If there is someone that has the time to figure out and summarize where the increases are going, I think many of us would REALLY appreciate it. Thank you.


This please in a bullet point to the fact like a Katie Porter whiteboard display to Congress


Although they seem to be cutting some positions, the OPs statement that it's going CO bloat isn't at all clear which makes me suspect that they aren't being honest.


Many of these posters have a political agenda, and their trying to use schools to sway public opinion to their cause just like they did in VA for Youngkin.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ya’ll are amazing. The Operating Budget plan has been available for review for 2 months including community comment. MCCPTA can barely get anyone to sit on the committee to review the budget. The BOR has had (3)Operating Budget hearings and (4) Work sessions to review every part of the operating budget, all of which are recorded so can still be reviewed. But, today after one article is published, one that seems barely researched, ya’ll have concern and complaint, and all without having reviewed said budget yourselves???

And folks wonder why America has problems.


Are you staying that the article is incorrect? That they are not adding 7 central staff positions? Nobody is reading an over 400 page budget. Of course we are going to rely on synopsis. But if the article is incorrect, please share your insight. I would truly appreciate it.

They are not arguing that the report is incorrect. Instead they engaging in an ad hominem attack. They are also engaging in an attack on journalism.


I’m suggesting people actually read through the budget themselves and ask questions or at the least watch the Operating budget work session where the entire thing is discussed. The journalism in this article is poor as it provides no detail, answers no questions about why, and relies on one table in a budget that you all note is 431 pages. And yet, this board has taken the news article as Gospel and started complaining. Why? If you won’t even take the time to review the budget why are you complaining? Why are you attacking MCPS about not being transparent or doing what’s right when apparently you have no interest in engaging in the actual process. Some of ya’ll would say Fox news watchers are low information persons who don’t use logic, but how are ya’ll displaying yourselves to be any different than them in this case?

If you care about the budget and want to know what it represents, go watch the Operating Budget Work sessions and hearings. It’s not someone else’s responsibility to give you all the details, especially not on this forum. You have the tools and opportunity, whether you use them is on you. If you won’t that fine, but at least admit you don’t actually care and just like complaining.


You are ridiculous. Do you also recommend that people sit through videos of the legislative sessions for every law that affects them? What about attending court for every case discussing an important law?

This is precisely why the news exists.

Then choose your news sources carefully.

I recommend Caitlynn Peetz at Bethesda Beat.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If there is someone that has the time to figure out and summarize where the increases are going, I think many of us would REALLY appreciate it. Thank you.


This please in a bullet point to the fact like a Katie Porter whiteboard display to Congress


Although they seem to be cutting some positions, the OPs statement that it's going CO bloat isn't at all clear which makes me suspect that they aren't being honest.


Many of these posters have a political agenda, and their trying to use schools to sway public opinion to their cause just like they did in VA for Youngkin.

That’s a pretty wild conspiracy theory.

Occams Razor holds that there are 320,000 parents in this county and many of them are pissed at MCPS for different reasons. But everyone that’s pissed at MCPS absolutely hates their tenditious b.s.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ya’ll are amazing. The Operating Budget plan has been available for review for 2 months including community comment. MCCPTA can barely get anyone to sit on the committee to review the budget. The BOR has had (3)Operating Budget hearings and (4) Work sessions to review every part of the operating budget, all of which are recorded so can still be reviewed. But, today after one article is published, one that seems barely researched, ya’ll have concern and complaint, and all without having reviewed said budget yourselves???

And folks wonder why America has problems.


Are you staying that the article is incorrect? That they are not adding 7 central staff positions? Nobody is reading an over 400 page budget. Of course we are going to rely on synopsis. But if the article is incorrect, please share your insight. I would truly appreciate it.

They are not arguing that the report is incorrect. Instead they engaging in an ad hominem attack. They are also engaging in an attack on journalism.


I’m suggesting people actually read through the budget themselves and ask questions or at the least watch the Operating budget work session where the entire thing is discussed. The journalism in this article is poor as it provides no detail, answers no questions about why, and relies on one table in a budget that you all note is 431 pages. And yet, this board has taken the news article as Gospel and started complaining. Why? If you won’t even take the time to review the budget why are you complaining? Why are you attacking MCPS about not being transparent or doing what’s right when apparently you have no interest in engaging in the actual process. Some of ya’ll would say Fox news watchers are low information persons who don’t use logic, but how are ya’ll displaying yourselves to be any different than them in this case?

If you care about the budget and want to know what it represents, go watch the Operating Budget Work sessions and hearings. It’s not someone else’s responsibility to give you all the details, especially not on this forum. You have the tools and opportunity, whether you use them is on you. If you won’t that fine, but at least admit you don’t actually care and just like complaining.


You are ridiculous. Do you also recommend that people sit through videos of the legislative sessions for every law that affects them? What about attending court for every case discussing an important law?

This is precisely why the news exists.

Then choose your news sources carefully.

I recommend Caitlynn Peetz at Bethesda Beat.

If you read the report, they professionally reached out to MCPS for comment and MCPS unprofessionally refused comment. If the story is false that they are cutting FTE in schools, then there is nothing that stops MCPS from clearing that up. Instead you want to get all Trumpy and call it fake news.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If there is someone that has the time to figure out and summarize where the increases are going, I think many of us would REALLY appreciate it. Thank you.


This please in a bullet point to the fact like a Katie Porter whiteboard display to Congress


Although they seem to be cutting some positions, the OPs statement that it's going CO bloat isn't at all clear which makes me suspect that they aren't being honest.


Exactly. It's a sensationalistic story with too little detail to be helpfully informative.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If there is someone that has the time to figure out and summarize where the increases are going, I think many of us would REALLY appreciate it. Thank you.


This please in a bullet point to the fact like a Katie Porter whiteboard display to Congress


Although they seem to be cutting some positions, the OPs statement that it's going CO bloat isn't at all clear which makes me suspect that they aren't being honest.


Exactly. It's a sensationalistic story with too little detail to be helpfully informative.


Or MCPS couldn’t be bothered to answer questions.
Anonymous
Plus MCPS said they were going to hire 50 social workers/ counselors to make up for getting rid of the SROs. They still have not done this. I don’t believe they will.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If there is someone that has the time to figure out and summarize where the increases are going, I think many of us would REALLY appreciate it. Thank you.


This please in a bullet point to the fact like a Katie Porter whiteboard display to Congress


Although they seem to be cutting some positions, the OPs statement that it's going CO bloat isn't at all clear which makes me suspect that they aren't being honest.


Exactly. It's a sensationalistic story with too little detail to be helpfully informative.


Or MCPS couldn’t be bothered to answer questions.


Or the reporter could do research, provide details and note some of the questions for MCPS that weren’t provide response. But I guess if people will accept lazy reporting, not do their own research, yet still run off half informed, what’s the incentive.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ya’ll are amazing. The Operating Budget plan has been available for review for 2 months including community comment. MCCPTA can barely get anyone to sit on the committee to review the budget. The BOR has had (3)Operating Budget hearings and (4) Work sessions to review every part of the operating budget, all of which are recorded so can still be reviewed. But, today after one article is published, one that seems barely researched, ya’ll have concern and complaint, and all without having reviewed said budget yourselves???

And folks wonder why America has problems.


Are you staying that the article is incorrect? That they are not adding 7 central staff positions? Nobody is reading an over 400 page budget. Of course we are going to rely on synopsis. But if the article is incorrect, please share your insight. I would truly appreciate it.

They are not arguing that the report is incorrect. Instead they engaging in an ad hominem attack. They are also engaging in an attack on journalism.


I’m suggesting people actually read through the budget themselves and ask questions or at the least watch the Operating budget work session where the entire thing is discussed. The journalism in this article is poor as it provides no detail, answers no questions about why, and relies on one table in a budget that you all note is 431 pages. And yet, this board has taken the news article as Gospel and started complaining. Why? If you won’t even take the time to review the budget why are you complaining? Why are you attacking MCPS about not being transparent or doing what’s right when apparently you have no interest in engaging in the actual process. Some of ya’ll would say Fox news watchers are low information persons who don’t use logic, but how are ya’ll displaying yourselves to be any different than them in this case?

If you care about the budget and want to know what it represents, go watch the Operating Budget Work sessions and hearings. It’s not someone else’s responsibility to give you all the details, especially not on this forum. You have the tools and opportunity, whether you use them is on you. If you won’t that fine, but at least admit you don’t actually care and just like complaining.


You are ridiculous. Do you also recommend that people sit through videos of the legislative sessions for every law that affects them? What about attending court for every case discussing an important law?

This is precisely why the news exists.

Then choose your news sources carefully.

I recommend Caitlynn Peetz at Bethesda Beat.

If you read the report, they professionally reached out to MCPS for comment and MCPS unprofessionally refused comment. If the story is false that they are cutting FTE in schools, then there is nothing that stops MCPS from clearing that up. Instead you want to get all Trumpy and call it fake news.


No one called it fake news. They suggested the article was poor reporting and yàll were running off with complaints with basically no info and details. And I’ve yet to see a post that makes le believe this isn’t an accurate assessment. Instead you’ve spent time trying to defend your lack of knowledge and complaints.
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