Are seed oils the worst culprit in our processed food addiction?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Had no idea.

I thought canola oil was good for us. We were told it was the healthy oil the way we're now being told olive oil is healthy.

Olive oil has been used since 3500 BC so they've always known it's safe. But it's $$$. The modern oils are an invention of the mechanization in agriculture. You cannot naturally squeeze oil out of canola. It's a modern absurdity.

Canola oil is a big scam. Highly processed and genetically modified to optimize profit. I don’t touch soy or corn oil either. If those “vegetable” oil are so much healthier how come the US has such disproportionate rates of heart disease compared with other countries where people use olive oil very liberally including for frying (Spain), or other oils such as sunflower, rapeseed, safflower, even ghee, palm or coconut oil. Additionally, in the US few people make their own vinaigrette daily like tons of people do in Europe. That’s a great way to consuming beneficial oils with a good omega profile to help balance everything out.

Portion size. That’s what the difference is. It’s not any one food or one type of food. It’s sheer quantity, and until we acknowledge that and stop looking for a food or an oil to blame, we will never get a handle on it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Had no idea.

I thought canola oil was good for us. We were told it was the healthy oil the way we're now being told olive oil is healthy.

According to my dad’s cardiologist, coconut oil is the worst. She tells all her patients to avoid it in all forms.

It's so highly saturated it is terrible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You lost me at “the inflammation problems.”

But wait, there’s trauma involved, too!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Had no idea.

I thought canola oil was good for us. We were told it was the healthy oil the way we're now being told olive oil is healthy.

Olive oil has been used since 3500 BC so they've always known it's safe. But it's $$$. The modern oils are an invention of the mechanization in agriculture. You cannot naturally squeeze oil out of canola. It's a modern absurdity.

Canola oil is a big scam. Highly processed and genetically modified to optimize profit. I don’t touch soy or corn oil either. If those “vegetable” oil are so much healthier how come the US has such disproportionate rates of heart disease compared with other countries where people use olive oil very liberally including for frying (Spain), or other oils such as sunflower, rapeseed, safflower, even ghee, palm or coconut oil. Additionally, in the US few people make their own vinaigrette daily like tons of people do in Europe. That’s a great way to consuming beneficial oils with a good omega profile to help balance everything out.

Portion size. That’s what the difference is. It’s not any one food or one type of food. It’s sheer quantity, and until we acknowledge that and stop looking for a food or an oil to blame, we will never get a handle on it.

+1 The “big scam” is that people keep falling for these ever-changing dietary guidelines and thinking “ah, now we’ve found the real culprit!”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Had no idea.

I thought canola oil was good for us. We were told it was the healthy oil the way we're now being told olive oil is healthy.

Olive oil has been used since 3500 BC so they've always known it's safe. But it's $$$. The modern oils are an invention of the mechanization in agriculture. You cannot naturally squeeze oil out of canola. It's a modern absurdity.

Canola oil is a big scam. Highly processed and genetically modified to optimize profit. I don’t touch soy or corn oil either. If those “vegetable” oil are so much healthier how come the US has such disproportionate rates of heart disease compared with other countries where people use olive oil very liberally including for frying (Spain), or other oils such as sunflower, rapeseed, safflower, even ghee, palm or coconut oil. Additionally, in the US few people make their own vinaigrette daily like tons of people do in Europe. That’s a great way to consuming beneficial oils with a good omega profile to help balance everything out.

Portion size. That’s what the difference is. It’s not any one food or one type of food. It’s sheer quantity, and until we acknowledge that and stop looking for a food or an oil to blame, we will never get a handle on it.

+1 The “big scam” is that people keep falling for these ever-changing dietary guidelines and thinking “ah, now we’ve found the real culprit!”

— 1 The only people I know who think garbage ingredients in the food are good for you, are reaping mega profits.

No, thank you. I prefer to be healthy, and these genetically modified seed oils are a bad thing. Do your research if you really care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Had no idea.

I thought canola oil was good for us. We were told it was the healthy oil the way we're now being told olive oil is healthy.

Olive oil has been used since 3500 BC so they've always known it's safe. But it's $$$. The modern oils are an invention of the mechanization in agriculture. You cannot naturally squeeze oil out of canola. It's a modern absurdity.

Canola oil is a big scam. Highly processed and genetically modified to optimize profit. I don’t touch soy or corn oil either. If those “vegetable” oil are so much healthier how come the US has such disproportionate rates of heart disease compared with other countries where people use olive oil very liberally including for frying (Spain), or other oils such as sunflower, rapeseed, safflower, even ghee, palm or coconut oil. Additionally, in the US few people make their own vinaigrette daily like tons of people do in Europe. That’s a great way to consuming beneficial oils with a good omega profile to help balance everything out.

I agree with your point but rapeseed oil IS canola oil.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So if you can't eat seed oils, what would you use for cooking?

Use Plant oils like avocado oil or olive oil or coconut oil
It’s widely known that canola oil, cottonseed oil, sunflower oil are bad for you.

Depends who you read and you will see how bad coconut oil is.

And how butter is best

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I read somewhere else on this site that seed oils change your DNA and also cause glaucoma. Is that true?

What now?! Do you understand how DNA works?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I found a video by a woman now living in Germany. Her eating habits have not changed since moving, still eating processed foods like sugar cereal and hot pockets, yet she lost 15 pounds.

She contributes it to the lack of additives and chemicals in their food compared to US food. She posted the box nutrition info for a sugar cereal found there and the US and the ingredients there was very short compared to the huge list on the US box.

I am more inclined to agree with her than this oils theory.

Though I've long believed based on the experiences of my large extended family that one of the key factors in obesity and obesity-related health problems is stress and trauma. There has been some research around this but it doesn't get talked about because it's much harder to address than identifying a few ingredients in foot that you can simply avoid. The research on stress and trauma is like "If you experienced a certain number of childhood traumas, you need years of therapy and anti-depressants and you might successfully avoid getting heart disease and diabetes."

It's much easier to say 'the problem is canola oil."

Stress is not the reason why there’s an obesity epidemic in America. That’s silly. It’s food. The crap we eat. Are Haitians obese? They have more stress and trauma than anyone.

Exactly.
YouTube “Tucker Goodrich” for some excellent research about how the seed oils are the most egregious substance driving us into chronic diseases of all kinds. We need to learn about this...

Stop getting your medical information from freaking YOUTUBE.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I read somewhere else on this site that seed oils change your DNA and also cause glaucoma. Is that true?

What now?! Do you understand how DNA works?

Do YOU understand why Americans have the WORST chronic disease epidemic, despite spending (um, WASTING!) the most money?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I read somewhere else on this site that seed oils change your DNA and also cause glaucoma. Is that true?

What now?! Do you understand how DNA works?

Do YOU understand why Americans have the WORST chronic disease epidemic, despite spending (um, WASTING!) the most money?

Yeah. I just don't get how those genetic diseases are due to canola and other seed oils, OP. Like, if literally everything is due to diet, and you have TheAnswer [TM], then you can fix literally everything, right?

Amazing! Not just the genetic defect in WNK kinase 1 that causes some cases of genetic-based hypertension, but even chromosomal problems? You must be the most powerful person in the world. I hope people finally listen to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read somewhere else on this site that seed oils change your DNA and also cause glaucoma. Is that true?

What now?! Do you understand how DNA works?

Do YOU understand why Americans have the WORST chronic disease epidemic, despite spending (um, WASTING!) the most money?

Yeah. I just don't get how those genetic diseases are due to canola and other seed oils, OP. Like, if literally everything is due to diet, and you have TheAnswer [TM], then you can fix literally everything, right?

Amazing! Not just the genetic defect in WNK kinase 1 that causes some cases of genetic-based hypertension, but even chromosomal problems? You must be the most powerful person in the world. I hope people finally listen to you.

I’m not PP, but I’m guessing she’s referring to epigenetics. Gene expression (not altering DNA but “flipping the switch” on certain genes). And yes diet is one of the biggest factors.

[Anonymous]

No, she actually told somebody with a genetic cause of hypertension (not epigenetic, but identified gene in her family) that all the world's ills are caused by poor diet, especially canola oil.

And the all-caps and the frenzied ranting. Can't imagine why nobody is taking this idea seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, she actually told somebody with a genetic cause of hypertension (not epigenetic, but identified gene in her family) that all the world's ills are caused by poor diet, especially canola oil.

And the all-caps and the frenzied ranting. Can't imagine why nobody is taking this idea seriously.

No, I did not say that at all. It appears you have some invested interests in this arena. What are they?

[Anonymous]

My invested interests are in accuracy of information, not in feeling important by pushing some simplistic idea with a few grains of truth -- but which ignores the complexity of multifactorial problems so that I can rant at people and feel good.

How about you?