DC’s friend lied on their college app

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mexican is not a race.

Neither is Native American. They are both citizenships. And Mexico is part of the Americas.

This is all very weird. The terms are all off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are you sure the kid didn't just say this as a joke? I can't believe that anyone would do something that openly fraudulent in these very heavily scrutinized times.

No it wasn’t a joke.

[Anonymous]

Claiming you’re Native American should be tied to membership of a sovereign indigenous nation or tribe, not 2% of your DNA.

[Anonymous]

Apparently it’s quite common to lie and it seems to work as well

https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/577722-more-than-a-third-of-white-students-lie-about-their

[Anonymous]

Can OP please come back and share more details? Is this kid the child of someone who is Latino? Does one parent have a Spanish surname?

[Anonymous]

I just went back and checked. This is the set of questions asked on the Common Application, and in this order:

Are you Hispanic or Latino/a/x?
Yes No

Which best describes your Hispanic or Latino/a/x background? (You may select one or more)
Central America
Cuba
Mexico
Puerto Rico
South America
Spain
Other
Specify other Hispanic or Latino/a/x background

Regardless of your answer to the prior question, please indicate how you identify yourself. (You may select one or more)
American Indian or Alaska Native
Asian
Black or African American
Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander
White
Please tell us about your tribal identity or affiliation

Are you enrolled in a federally recognized tribe?
Yes No

Which best describes your White background? (You may select one or more)
Europe
Middle East
Other
Specify other White background


Most Latinos don't consider themselves to be white because they know they're not considered white by white people. So, when you ask the Latino question separate from race, you end up with a huge number of Native Americans who are actually just Latinos. That's also because Latinos, when told to place themselves into a set of boxes that don't fit, often pick the closest thing, which is usually going to be some combo of white and Native American, since most Latinos are mestizo (a mix of indigenous and European ancestry). The question about your federally recognized tribe can be used by schools to cull all those Latinos from the Native American group, which they hopefully are doing.

[Anonymous]

This happened with a student from our big 3 who took no AP/honors classes and was a middling student. Father is from Argentina, but is german by descent, and she checked Hispanic/Latino and got into Middlebury.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can OP please come back and share more details? Is this kid the child of someone who is Latino? Does one parent have a Spanish surname?

No, parents are not latino, grandparents are not latino and no does not have a Spanish name.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:About their race. Put down Native American and mexican. Got into an Ivy. Apparently DC has known for a while. I am not shocked as i know many kids probably lie but this just shows how rigged the system itself is. The entire school was surprised that this kid got in ED and now we know. Wow! I am guessing thats how colleges achieve their diversity goal.. admitting fake native Americans and hispanics.

Hate to be that kid when (not if) the college or university finds out. They can and will revoke the diploma.

[Anonymous]

My DC's friend's parent is a concern troll on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just went back and checked. This is the set of questions asked on the Common Application, and in this order:

Are you Hispanic or Latino/a/x?
Yes No

Which best describes your Hispanic or Latino/a/x background? (You may select one or more)
Central America
Cuba
Mexico
Puerto Rico
South America
Spain
Other
Specify other Hispanic or Latino/a/x background

Regardless of your answer to the prior question, please indicate how you identify yourself. (You may select one or more)
American Indian or Alaska Native
Asian
Black or African American
Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander
White
Please tell us about your tribal identity or affiliation

Are you enrolled in a federally recognized tribe?
Yes No

Which best describes your White background? (You may select one or more)
Europe
Middle East
Other
Specify other White background


Most Latinos don't consider themselves to be white because they know they're not considered white by white people. So, when you ask the Latino question separate from race, you end up with a huge number of Native Americans who are actually just Latinos. That's also because Latinos, when told to place themselves into a set of boxes that don't fit, often pick the closest thing, which is usually going to be some combo of white and Native American, since most Latinos are mestizo (a mix of indigenous and European ancestry). The question about your federally recognized tribe can be used by schools to cull all those Latinos from the Native American group, which they hopefully are doing.

That might be true of the general population, but I'm not so sure it's true when you look at the "Latino" populations at Ivy League schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just went back and checked. This is the set of questions asked on the Common Application, and in this order:

Are you Hispanic or Latino/a/x?
Yes No

Which best describes your Hispanic or Latino/a/x background? (You may select one or more)
Central America
Cuba
Mexico
Puerto Rico
South America
Spain
Other
Specify other Hispanic or Latino/a/x background

Regardless of your answer to the prior question, please indicate how you identify yourself. (You may select one or more)
American Indian or Alaska Native
Asian
Black or African American
Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander
White
Please tell us about your tribal identity or affiliation

Are you enrolled in a federally recognized tribe?
Yes No

Which best describes your White background? (You may select one or more)
Europe
Middle East
Other
Specify other White background


Most Latinos don't consider themselves to be white because they know they're not considered white by white people. So, when you ask the Latino question separate from race, you end up with a huge number of Native Americans who are actually just Latinos. That's also because Latinos, when told to place themselves into a set of boxes that don't fit, often pick the closest thing, which is usually going to be some combo of white and Native American, since most Latinos are mestizo (a mix of indigenous and European ancestry). The question about your federally recognized tribe can be used by schools to cull all those Latinos from the Native American group, which they hopefully are doing.[/quot


Thank you for posting this. Very interesting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sadly this happens every year. Some unqualified student checks a box under dubious circumstances and gets into a school they have no business attending. It's frustrating but a good sign that life isn't always fair and that this process has very little integrity to it. Better to carry yourself with dignity and only worry about yourself. Eventually your child will be better off. It's the school's loss.

Thank you! Finally someone with integrity who can see how wrong this is

Yeah. You two exude integrity…

Listen, I’m diverse as are my children. And AA is a complete sham and clusterf$ck; I look forward to it being struck down. But you UMC suburban adults who obsess over college admissions are the absolute worst.

[Anonymous]

"This happened with a student from our big 3 who took no AP/honors classes and was a middling student. Father is from Argentina, but is german by descent, and she checked Hispanic/Latino and got into Middlebury."

This says so much about Middlebury. It's just pathetic. Either they're clueless about why elite schools should try to build a diverse class, or they're lazy and don't want to do the work to recruit enough high quality Latino applicants that they don't need to choose a middling student with Argentinean ancestry to pretend that their class is diverse.

[Anonymous]

I'm always surprised how much all of you know about the grades, test scores, class selection, ancestry and background of every single one of your kids' classmates.

The kid with the Argentine parent is Hispanic, by the way.

Cubans are also Hispanic.