FCPS CRT or nah?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have no problem having my kids recognize the privileges they have in life. Yes, some of those are due to us having worked hard, but others are due to the color of our skin, sexual identity, religion. No control over those. I teach my kids to have empathy towards classmates/ peers who have to overcome more obstacles to “make it” in this society. I also point out that most people on this planet are way worse off than we are here. I agree with this kind of lesson. I hope it teaches my kids to be more grateful for what they have been given in life. Would Jesus say, “Too bad, so sad, you got stuck living with a poor, brown/black, single parent.”?


But wouldn't you agree that it's your job as a parent to teach them empathy and gratitude? I do. My job as a parent is to turn my children into good people. It is the job of the school to teach them english, math, and so on.



So is this the root of the “CRT” issue for Republicans?

They don’t want schools to teach anything related “being a good person”?

Empathy
Gratitude
Honesty
Responsibility
Respecting others
Etc

I guess they don’t want their own kids to realize they are a-holes.


Privilege Bingo is not about empathy. A lesson on empathy would be something like “some kids have dyslexia. Heres what words on a page look like to them. That’s why reading is hard for them.” Or “some kids don’t have enough food to eat. How can you help? Volunteer at a food bank? Donate to a food bank? Don’t be wasteful with your own food?”.

That’s very different than a lesson that tries to pick out the most privileged kids in class. Obviously being privileged is seen as a bad thing. All that does is tear down some kids, and cement the idea that someone less-privileged should try to stay that way. “Some animals are more equal than others”. Since this was apparently in an English class, perhaps reading some George Orwell would be a good idea.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have no problem having my kids recognize the privileges they have in life. Yes, some of those are due to us having worked hard, but others are due to the color of our skin, sexual identity, religion. No control over those. I teach my kids to have empathy towards classmates/ peers who have to overcome more obstacles to “make it” in this society. I also point out that most people on this planet are way worse off than we are here. I agree with this kind of lesson. I hope it teaches my kids to be more grateful for what they have been given in life. Would Jesus say, “Too bad, so sad, you got stuck living with a poor, brown/black, single parent.”?


But wouldn't you agree that it's your job as a parent to teach them empathy and gratitude? I do. My job as a parent is to turn my children into good people. It is the job of the school to teach them english, math, and so on.


Of course it is my job to teach my kids to be empathetic people. However, not all parents will do that. Something tells me parents of members of Aryan Nation never had that chat with their kids. I think public schools should teach students how to be sensitive members of society. I think these kinds of lessons open the eyes of students who have no idea about the challenges the less fortunate have. As future adults, they may be more understanding to how co-workers/employees who come from less fortunate upbringing might behave. I don’t see any harm.
Anonymous
This was a poorly designed, "approved" lesson.

That should disturb anyone who sees it.

It also shows the attitude that educators have. That is also disturbing.

I'm still trying to figure out how being a "military kid" is considered privilege. It is something to be proud of, but I would hardly call it privilege.
I taught military kids for years:

Frequent deployments to hostile areas.
Frequent deployments--sometimes for months for training.
Frequent moves that are not always to places they would like to go.

Sure, there are benefits--but do they outweigh the risks?

Hardly something I would call "privilege." But, it is clear from some of the responses on this thread that there are people who have absolutely no understanding of the downside. I still am stunned that one person on here thinks that college is paid for the kids.
Anonymous
Privilege Bingo is not about empathy. A lesson on empathy would be something like “some kids have dyslexia. Heres what words on a page look like to them. That’s why reading is hard for them.” Or “some kids don’t have enough food to eat. How can you help? Volunteer at a food bank? Donate to a food bank? Don’t be wasteful with your own food?”.

That’s very different than a lesson that tries to pick out the most privileged kids in class. Obviously being privileged is seen as a bad thing. All that does is tear down some kids, and cement the idea that someone less-privileged should try to stay that way. “Some animals are more equal than others”. Since this was apparently in an English class, perhaps reading some George Orwell would be a good idea.


+1

No kids benefit from being taught that they are victims. No kid benefits from being taught that they should feel guilt because others are victims.
Anonymous
Of course it is my job to teach my kids to be empathetic people. However, not all parents will do that. Something tells me parents of members of Aryan Nation never had that chat with their kids. I think public schools should teach students how to be sensitive members of society. I think these kinds of lessons open the eyes of students who have no idea about the challenges the less fortunate have. As future adults, they may be more understanding to how co-workers/employees who come from less fortunate upbringing might behave. I don’t see any harm.


Please. How any of those do you think we have in Fairfax County? Somehow, I doubt there are any at Oakton High.

Anonymous
What about "Christian" being a choice on the bingo card? That's pretty troubling.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Of course it is my job to teach my kids to be empathetic people. However, not all parents will do that. Something tells me parents of members of Aryan Nation never had that chat with their kids. I think public schools should teach students how to be sensitive members of society. I think these kinds of lessons open the eyes of students who have no idea about the challenges the less fortunate have. As future adults, they may be more understanding to how co-workers/employees who come from less fortunate upbringing might behave. I don’t see any harm.


Please. How any of those do you think we have in Fairfax County? Somehow, I doubt there are any at Oakton High.



Maybe no MEMBERS, but sympathizers? I am pretty sure there are many.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have no problem having my kids recognize the privileges they have in life. Yes, some of those are due to us having worked hard, but others are due to the color of our skin, sexual identity, religion. No control over those. I teach my kids to have empathy towards classmates/ peers who have to overcome more obstacles to “make it” in this society. I also point out that most people on this planet are way worse off than we are here. I agree with this kind of lesson. I hope it teaches my kids to be more grateful for what they have been given in life. Would Jesus say, “Too bad, so sad, you got stuck living with a poor, brown/black, single parent.”?


But wouldn't you agree that it's your job as a parent to teach them empathy and gratitude? I do. My job as a parent is to turn my children into good people. It is the job of the school to teach them english, math, and so on.


Of course it is my job to teach my kids to be empathetic people. However, not all parents will do that. Something tells me parents of members of Aryan Nation never had that chat with their kids. I think public schools should teach students how to be sensitive members of society. I think these kinds of lessons open the eyes of students who have no idea about the challenges the less fortunate have. As future adults, they may be more understanding to how co-workers/employees who come from less fortunate upbringing might behave. I don’t see any harm.


I do.

The old paradigm might have been to teach children to "count their blessings," even recognizing that some kids have more advantages than others, and then encourage students to reach their full potential.

The new paradigm is to stigmatize "privileges" (the "unearned" is silent), to imply that whatever those with more "privileges" accomplish in school or in life is also unearned, and reward those with fewer "privileges."

It does not take a genius to see what the goal is - a radical redistribution of property and the continued denigration of hard work and "merit." Rest assured, however, that those making up all these new rules will make sure that they and their own progeny benefit the most.

Youngkin's new VDOE should crack down on this crap now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Most of that has little to do with race. What's the problem with having kids acknowledge they have benefits if they are mainstream (rae/religion etc) , not disabled, have some space and money and privacy, and so on.

Talk about fragile. " I don't want my kid to believe their lives may be even a littles easier than someone else's."


Please rell, other than growng up in a color blind, merit based society, what are the privileges of being a military kid?

Having a dad with PTSD?

seeing people missing half their face or with limbs blown off every time you go to your pediatrician or grocery shopping?

Parents who spent 4 years of a 20 year marriage in the same place due to deployments?

Going to 4 different schools in 5 years?

Thinking every delivery car stopping by your house is "that car" when your parent is deployed?

Regularly having parents miss birthdays, holidays, Christmas, and milestones due to deploylents?

FCPS and Braeband owe every single military family a public apology. It jeeds to be given with the same dogged passion that they use when hounding us for our impact aide forms
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:That article has a ton of spin.

I'd have to see the entire lesson.


That piece of paper should never have been part of any lesson, anywhere.
Anonymous
No surprise that one of the defenders of Privilege Bingo was Doug Tyson, the Region 1 Assistant Superintendent. He was a failure as the principal of Kilmer Middle School - just ask around - and he's brought the same lack of common sense to his current job.
Anonymous
FCPS just offers up crap after more crap all the time.

They can't focus on the essentials of running a large school system for more than two hours without getting bored and giving up, but they cram this garbage down kids' throats to justify their own teaching failures?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have no problem having my kids recognize the privileges they have in life. Yes, some of those are due to us having worked hard, but others are due to the color of our skin, sexual identity, religion. No control over those. I teach my kids to have empathy towards classmates/ peers who have to overcome more obstacles to “make it” in this society. I also point out that most people on this planet are way worse off than we are here. I agree with this kind of lesson. I hope it teaches my kids to be more grateful for what they have been given in life. Would Jesus say, “Too bad, so sad, you got stuck living with a poor, brown/black, single parent.”?


But wouldn't you agree that it's your job as a parent to teach them empathy and gratitude? I do. My job as a parent is to turn my children into good people. It is the job of the school to teach them english, math, and so on.



So is this the root of the “CRT” issue for Republicans?

They don’t want schools to teach anything related “being a good person”?

Empathy
Gratitude
Honesty
Responsibility
Respecting others
Etc

I guess they don’t want their own kids to realize they are a-holes.


Privilege Bingo is not about empathy. A lesson on empathy would be something like “some kids have dyslexia. Heres what words on a page look like to them. That’s why reading is hard for them.” Or “some kids don’t have enough food to eat. How can you help? Volunteer at a food bank? Donate to a food bank? Don’t be wasteful with your own food?”.

That’s very different than a lesson that tries to pick out the most privileged kids in class. Obviously being privileged is seen as a bad thing. All that does is tear down some kids, and cement the idea that someone less-privileged should try to stay that way. “Some animals are more equal than others”. Since this was apparently in an English class, perhaps reading some George Orwell would be a good idea.


So teaching empathy - and other qualities of “good people” - is ok. Just not this particular assignment?

And do we know if it would have tied back to a book they were reading?

Privilege is only a “bad” thing if you ignore it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Daily Wire isn’t a credible source.

Next.


FCPS confirmed that this was an idea they were going to use in an English class but then decided that making a game out of identity privilege wasn't the way they wanted to go. I am all for understanding privilege but the fact that our kids are barely getting an education in basic grammar as it is makes me think that teaching identity in school is a distraction we don't need right now.


Citation from a credible source?



Do your own research - there is literally a Tweet from FCPS announcing that they’ve pulled this.


Fcps needs to email an apology to all of their military families.

Quite frankly, they also need to apologize to the males, Christians, whites (wtf? Ffx has sooo many biracial families), people who have not changed their gender, and all of the other groups that they stereotyped and denigrated in this lesson.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Most of that has little to do with race. What's the problem with having kids acknowledge they have benefits if they are mainstream (rae/religion etc) , not disabled, have some space and money and privacy, and so on.

Talk about fragile. " I don't want my kid to believe their lives may be even a littles easier than someone else's."


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