quintessential upper middle class vehicles

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have a 2007 Prius and a 2020 Rav 4 Hybrid.

Hoping the next car will be all electric, but have a hard time supporting Tesla. So, we are still looking.

oh, and we are in McLean near the Arlington border.

[Anonymous]

Real UMC? BMW, Mercedes, Suburban, Range Rover, Audi,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Growing up in the 1980s and 1990s, Volvos were the ultimate UMC car because only the UMCs bought them. The very rich didn't drive them, but neither did the car devotees from lower incomes yearn for Volvos. The private school carpool lane was dominated by Volvo station wagons. If you drove a Volvo in the 1980s and 1990s it was probably the car that most accurately told people you were definitely upper middle class rather rather than an aspirational person with a lease. The other contender would be the Saabs.

Today people have different relationships with cars so it's not what it was like in the past.

This is so spot-on! The Saab statement.

That's right! My wealthy and cool older cousin who went to Dartmouth drove an old Saab. What happened to Saabs? I assume out of business.

Saab or svenska aeroplan aktiebolaget stopped making cars - still making money on aerospace and defense. They did sell the auto brand to GM in the waning years - kiss of death

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your HHI is 510K, the car you drive is not relevant to a discussion about UMC.

Seriously though, what is the cutoff on either HHI and/or net worth for UMC?

Middle Class is roughly 86k - 136k HHI nationally.

I’d say up to 250k HHI would be middle class around here

Anything over 250k HHI in this area is UMC.

In DC rich is 598k

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/04/12/how-much-money-you-need-to-make-to-be-in-the-top-5-percent-in-dc.html

[Anonymous]

Audi Q5

we have one and so does every other person in NWDC/Bethesda

HHI 550-600k

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have a 2007 Prius and a 2020 Rav 4 Hybrid.

Hoping the next car will be all electric, but have a hard time supporting Tesla. So, we are still looking.

Many more choices besides Tesla: On the market now, there's the Volkswagen ID.4, the Audi Q4 e-tron, the Mustang Mach-E, the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and Kona EV, the Kia Niro EV (and soon the Kia EV6), Volvo XC40, Polestar, Nissan Leaf, Chevy Bolt and Bolt EUV... plus new electric models from Toyota, Subaru, Nissan, Mazda, Rivian, more Fords, more Chevys, etc., all coming in the next year or two.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a 2007 Prius and a 2020 Rav 4 Hybrid.

Hoping the next car will be all electric, but have a hard time supporting Tesla. So, we are still looking.

Many more choices besides Tesla: On the market now, there's the Volkswagen ID.4, the Audi Q4 e-tron, the Mustang Mach-E, the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and Kona EV, the Kia Niro EV (and soon the Kia EV6), Volvo XC40, Polestar, Nissan Leaf, Chevy Bolt and Bolt EUV... plus new electric models from Toyota, Subaru, Nissan, Mazda, Rivian, more Fords, more Chevys, etc., all coming in the next year or two.

that is we are waiting to see what is better in the new releases.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Real UMC? BMW, Mercedes, Suburban, Range Rover, Audi,

This, plus Tesla.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Real UMC? BMW, Mercedes, Suburban, Range Rover, Audi,

This, plus Tesla.

And seeing quite a few Porche SUVs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a 2007 Prius and a 2020 Rav 4 Hybrid.

Hoping the next car will be all electric, but have a hard time supporting Tesla. So, we are still looking.

Many more choices besides Tesla: On the market now, there's the Volkswagen ID.4, the Audi Q4 e-tron, the Mustang Mach-E, the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and Kona EV, the Kia Niro EV (and soon the Kia EV6), Volvo XC40, Polestar, Nissan Leaf, Chevy Bolt and Bolt EUV... plus new electric models from Toyota, Subaru, Nissan, Mazda, Rivian, more Fords, more Chevys, etc., all coming in the next year or two.

Also forgot there's an electric Jaguar and an electric Porsche, but it's possible those wouldn't be ideal replacements for your Prius or Rav4.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Real UMC? BMW, Mercedes, Suburban, Range Rover, Audi,

This, plus Tesla.

And seeing quite a few Porche SUVs.

Plus Genesis

[Anonymous]

Where I live, Tesla is the single most popular car. I also see a lot of MDX’s, Infiniti’s, Mercedes, plus the big black SUVs still
(Tahoe etc). Minivans are still going strong, as well.

[Anonymous]

We make 700k+ and just bought a Kia Telluride.

[Anonymous]

We make 2.4Mil and bought a Urus…

It goes well with the Range Rover that we have had for a few years.

[Anonymous]

HHI about 1.3M. Two Jeeps, a boring Japanese SUV and an old sedan.