Plymouth Brethren? Two by Twos? Are these cults or just Christian fundamentalist sects?

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Anonymous wrote:When my second grader was the recipient of proselytization, he told them that Jesus was a fib. We had a few conversations about how to gently rebuff with respect for their beliefs.

You aren’t letting your kid make up their own mind about religion and spirituality?

Do you let your kid make up their own mind? I doubt there are many 8-year olds who are eager to go to church every week. I remember hating it, and I also distinctly remember not having any choice in the matter. None of my friends had any choice, either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When my second grader was the recipient of proselytization, he told them that Jesus was a fib. We had a few conversations about how to gently rebuff with respect for their beliefs.

You aren’t letting your kid make up their own mind about religion and spirituality?

Do you let your kid make up their own mind? I doubt there are many 8-year olds who are eager to go to church every week. I remember hating it, and I also distinctly remember not having any choice in the matter. None of my friends had any choice, either.

There are also lots of adults who don’t talk to their parents anymore, that being a reason why.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When my second grader was the recipient of proselytization, he told them that Jesus was a fib. We had a few conversations about how to gently rebuff with respect for their beliefs.

You aren’t letting your kid make up their own mind about religion and spirituality?

Do you let your kid make up their own mind? I doubt there are many 8-year olds who are eager to go to church every week. I remember hating it, and I also distinctly remember not having any choice in the matter. None of my friends had any choice, either.

There are also lots of adults who don’t talk to their parents anymore, that being a reason why.

And there are a lot of adults who don't force their kids to go to church because they know from their own experience that forcing doesn't make kids religious.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Tell us more about this proselytizing. How does an 8 year old do that to a person they occasionally play with?
It seems to me that you are the one doing all this research. Maybe you read too much into it.
Sometimes kids talk about what their family is doing. Maybe that is how you came across the different terminology and did your googling

If you don’t know the name of the religion the person who is “proselytizing” you ascribes to, you aren’t being “proselytized.”

Obviously the mom isn’t talking to you directly about it, you are gleaning information somehow and googling/asking here. You are willing letting your child go into a home where she supposedly is being questioned and taught about this unknown religion.

Or, as the Mormons say, “milk before meat.” If they’re proselytizing, they might be deliberately withholding the name so OP can’t google.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Tell us more about this proselytizing. How does an 8 year old do that to a person they occasionally play with?
It seems to me that you are the one doing all this research. Maybe you read too much into it.
Sometimes kids talk about what their family is doing. Maybe that is how you came across the different terminology and did your googling

If you don’t know the name of the religion the person who is “proselytizing” you ascribes to, you aren’t being “proselytized.”

Obviously the mom isn’t talking to you directly about it, you are gleaning information somehow and googling/asking here. You are willing letting your child go into a home where she supposedly is being questioned and taught about this unknown religion.

Or, as the Mormons say, “milk before meat.” If they’re proselytizing, they might be deliberately withholding the name so OP can’t google.

Pretty sure 2x2s is commonly referred to as “the nameless church.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When my second grader was the recipient of proselytization, he told them that Jesus was a fib. We had a few conversations about how to gently rebuff with respect for their beliefs.

You aren’t letting your kid make up their own mind about religion and spirituality?

Why do you think our child did not make up his own mind? I don’t see where in my post that I wasn’t.

A second grader has independently examined all the issues and thought through it all, and has made up their mind about “Jesus being a “fib?””

You mean you’ve told your second grader what you think and they have internalized it. And you haven’t taught your second grader respect, either. True “atheists” say “ I do not believe in God.” They don’t tell other people that their chosen religion is a lie.

But religious people tell atheists they are wrong all the time. And worse that that, they tell atheists that they will be punished forever in a fiery pit that a benevolent god has prepared for anyone who doesn't believe in him.

And they shouldn't say such things either. Two wrongs don't make either of you right.

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Anonymous wrote:What have they done to try to force your child to believe in their religion?

Any adults who you feel are not respecting the values and morals of you and your family overall should not be an influence in your young child’s life.

If you feel they are not a good influence on your child, no more play dates. What they do for their family is their choice.

They started sending home pamphlets and asking questions about our church, and making comments about my daughter wearing pants . Things like that . No our values don’t align and I wouldn’t have a problem with that if they would not try to convince my daughter that she should have THEIR beliefs because they are right and we are wrong lol. That’s definitely why I’m drawing the line .

I think the problem for me would be that people who believe that women are not fully realized individuals with their own agency are in a sense condoning a form of slavery. I couldn't be friends with someone who wasn't fully on board with the idea that women are people.

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I don't associate anything on that list with Christianity (nor should you, OP). Many people copt the name "Jesus" for behaviors that are not aligned with His teaching.

Anyway, the parents are clearly control freaks with messed up values and ideas, so no, my kids would not be hanging out over there.