Sheer scale of new student covid cases (real data)

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Anonymous wrote:In the face of everybody in the world, it seems, doing everything they can to keep the schools open, it’s not enough for you. You still have to come on here and complain. So many of you are so damned selfish, thinking only of how the pandemic affects you and your family and no one else. It’s really sad.

I actually think the schools-open-at-any-cost folks are the selfish ones. Totally ignoring that large swaths of our city are still unvaccinated, that immunocompromised folks exist, that hospital workers are at their breaking point and that schools have proven to be a major source of infection in our city. But we can’t possibly close school for three days!!!

Let me clarify: that's who I meant, too.

The schools-open-at-any-cost act like there's a grand conspiracy to close the schools as quickly, extensively, and for as long as possible. Any little hint of a school closing anywhere and they go apesh*t.

Read the post at 10:01 (not mine) to understand why.

Also, some people just believe that protecting the quality of life and futures of kids in general (not just their own) is more important than prolonging the lives of the elderly. It's a philosophical difference of priorities. That combined with the fact that the data doesn't show that school closures actually have a meaningful impact on saving lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reality of the situation is that after last year, many parents do not trust DCPS/WTU to have the best interests of their students in mind as they make their decisions. If they had gone back last year in any meaningful way, the same way the vast majority of our country was able to, taking off these 3 days to reset wouldn't feel like a big deal. But since that didn't happen, some parents feel that if you give DCPS/WTU an inch, they'll take a mile and the rest of the school year would end up virtual (which for most people was horrible - if you were an exception to that rule, good for you, but it was the rule). It's a trust issue.

As a parent, I think the WTU has been in a much better position on mitigating risk than the Mayor/DCPS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We don’t have the vaccination numbers to let it blow through schools. Some children will die.

What we should be doing is identifying the problem spots (indoor lunch) and figuring out how to mitigate them.

More children will die in a cross walk in DC than from COVID. Even unvaccinated kids. We need to move on to the acceptance part of grief with this virus.

THIS! Let’s switch focus away from COVID, which we will likely all get at some point or another just like we all get colds or even the flu on a bad year, even if vaccinated. Kids are overwhelmingly not dying from COVID.*

Let’s focus instead on something that families and government in DC can actually do something about! The horrendous lack of safety for pedestrians and cyclists everywhere in the district.

*of course people who are immunocompromised have to take special precautions, but that is not new with COVID. I have worked with more than one colleague who wore a surgical mask to the office during cancer treatment, well before COVID.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the face of everybody in the world, it seems, doing everything they can to keep the schools open, it’s not enough for you. You still have to come on here and complain. So many of you are so damned selfish, thinking only of how the pandemic affects you and your family and no one else. It’s really sad.

I actually think the schools-open-at-any-cost folks are the selfish ones. Totally ignoring that large swaths of our city are still unvaccinated, that immunocompromised folks exist, that hospital workers are at their breaking point and that schools have proven to be a major source of infection in our city. But we can’t possibly close school for three days!!!

Let me clarify: that's who I meant, too.

The schools-open-at-any-cost act like there's a grand conspiracy to close the schools as quickly, extensively, and for as long as possible. Any little hint of a school closing anywhere and they go apesh*t.

Read the post at 10:01 (not mine) to understand why.

Also, some people just believe that protecting the quality of life and futures of kids in general (not just their own) is more important than prolonging the lives of the elderly. It's a philosophical difference of priorities. That combined with the fact that the data doesn't show that school closures actually have a meaningful impact on saving lives.

Read the 09:30 and 09:40 posts to understand more about quality of life. It doesn’t have to be as black and white as living vs dying

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Questions for the "let's all get COVID" crowd: Do you have any room in your world view for people who don't want to accept that we're all going to get infected? What about people with underlying health conditions?

It would be great if we could all make our own risk decisions, but your decisions impact other people.

Also, there's no evidence that the severity is worse than Delta.
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/omicron-five-times-more-likely-reinfect-than-delta-study-says-2021-12-17/

I honestly don’t understand how anyone has not accepted yet that you’re going to get Covid. Get vaccinated, get boosted - the only result tools to make your infection less severe. But to believe you can continue avoiding infection baffles me.

[Anonymous]

Let me just be clear that I would 100% rather my kids get Covid and then give it to everyone in our house than miss any more school after spending an *entire year* virtual. I am also totally fine with teachers and staff -- all of whom have been eligible for vax/boosters for months!!! -- testing positive for covid. Just like I was previously unbothered by the idea that kids teachers or parents might catch cold or a flu at school. Time to start treating Covid like every other URI that goes around schools in the winter - stay home if you're sick or have a fever, otherwise carry on as normal.

[Anonymous]

I want to go virtual for a month to get over this last wave. I was fine sending my kids back to school last year and this year, but these numbers are insane. Some of us have unvaccinated <5s at home. I don’t want my whole family to get COVID.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the face of everybody in the world, it seems, doing everything they can to keep the schools open, it’s not enough for you. You still have to come on here and complain. So many of you are so damned selfish, thinking only of how the pandemic affects you and your family and no one else. It’s really sad.

I actually think the schools-open-at-any-cost folks are the selfish ones. Totally ignoring that large swaths of our city are still unvaccinated, that immunocompromised folks exist, that hospital workers are at their breaking point and that schools have proven to be a major source of infection in our city. But we can’t possibly close school for three days!!!

Let me clarify: that's who I meant, too.

The schools-open-at-any-cost act like there's a grand conspiracy to close the schools as quickly, extensively, and for as long as possible. Any little hint of a school closing anywhere and they go apesh*t.

Read the post at 10:01 (not mine) to understand why.

Also, some people just believe that protecting the quality of life and futures of kids in general (not just their own) is more important than prolonging the lives of the elderly. It's a philosophical difference of priorities. That combined with the fact that the data doesn't show that school closures actually have a meaningful impact on saving lives.

Read the 09:30 and 09:40 posts to understand more about quality of life. It doesn’t have to be as black and white as living vs dying

You missed my point. I wasn't talking about this week. I was talking about long-term closures. Some people still seem to think those were/are justified in order to "save lives", even if there is no evidence that they did at any meaningful scale, and no matter how high the costs were to millions of kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want to go virtual for a month to get over this last wave. I was fine sending my kids back to school last year and this year, but these numbers are insane. Some of us have unvaccinated <5s at home. I don’t want my whole family to get COVID.

So your whole family is going to.....do what for a month? Covid is everywhere. It's in the schools. It's at work. It's in the grocery store. It's at Target. It's everywhere. If you're going to go into public, you have to assume you will be exposed to Covid. Most people are simply not going to stay in their homes for a month, again. And I know how much this sucks! I have two under-5 year olds at home and of course I don't want them to get covid. But the adults are vaxxed and boosted and we're not going to lockdown for a month, so I'm at the acceptance phase of this whole thing. Closing the schools for a month will do nothing - truly nothing - to halt the spread of covid. Please understand and accept this shitty truth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the face of everybody in the world, it seems, doing everything they can to keep the schools open, it’s not enough for you. You still have to come on here and complain. So many of you are so damned selfish, thinking only of how the pandemic affects you and your family and no one else. It’s really sad.

I actually think the schools-open-at-any-cost folks are the selfish ones. Totally ignoring that large swaths of our city are still unvaccinated, that immunocompromised folks exist, that hospital workers are at their breaking point and that schools have proven to be a major source of infection in our city. But we can’t possibly close school for three days!!!

Let me clarify: that's who I meant, too.

The schools-open-at-any-cost act like there's a grand conspiracy to close the schools as quickly, extensively, and for as long as possible. Any little hint of a school closing anywhere and they go apesh*t.

Read the post at 10:01 (not mine) to understand why.

Also, some people just believe that protecting the quality of life and futures of kids in general (not just their own) is more important than prolonging the lives of the elderly. It's a philosophical difference of priorities. That combined with the fact that the data doesn't show that school closures actually have a meaningful impact on saving lives.

Read the 09:30 and 09:40 posts to understand more about quality of life. It doesn’t have to be as black and white as living vs dying

You missed my point. I wasn't talking about this week. I was talking about long-term closures. Some people still seem to think those were/are justified in order to "save lives", even if there is no evidence that they did at any meaningful scale, and no matter how high the costs were to millions of kids.

And let me add that yes, the quality of life of teachers is important too, which is what I assume you mean by "understanding more about quality of life". But we are talking quality of life during formative years impacted by long-term school closures vs. the short term hardship of a tough week at school and a holiday break possibly impacted by a mild breakthrough infection. While the latter is important, too, and I wouldn't have minded much if schools had closed this week and this week only (but I don't need childcare so it's easy to say), it is a much smaller matter than the impact the many months of closed schools have had on this generation of children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want to go virtual for a month to get over this last wave. I was fine sending my kids back to school last year and this year, but these numbers are insane. Some of us have unvaccinated <5s at home. I don’t want my whole family to get COVID.

So stay home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the face of everybody in the world, it seems, doing everything they can to keep the schools open, it’s not enough for you. You still have to come on here and complain. So many of you are so damned selfish, thinking only of how the pandemic affects you and your family and no one else. It’s really sad.

I actually think the schools-open-at-any-cost folks are the selfish ones. Totally ignoring that large swaths of our city are still unvaccinated, that immunocompromised folks exist, that hospital workers are at their breaking point and that schools have proven to be a major source of infection in our city. But we can’t possibly close school for three days!!!

If they are unvaccinated that's their fault. They've had ample time to get free shots to protect themselves and their family. If they failed to do that, that's on them.

Also, there is zero proof that schools are a "major source of infection in our city." You are spreading panic and misinformation. Get your doctor to prescribe you something for your anxiety.

[Anonymous]

I would lock myself in my bedroom 23 hours a damn day if it would keep the kids in school. I will order curbside groceries. I don't give AF about me. But goddamn send the kids to school. I will double mask her. She can get boosted when she's eligible. But dear jesus i wish they would keep them in school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let me just be clear that I would 100% rather my kids get Covid and then give it to everyone in our house than miss any more school after spending an *entire year* virtual. I am also totally fine with teachers and staff -- all of whom have been eligible for vax/boosters for months!!! -- testing positive for covid. Just like I was previously unbothered by the idea that kids teachers or parents might catch cold or a flu at school. Time to start treating Covid like every other URI that goes around schools in the winter - stay home if you're sick or have a fever, otherwise carry on as normal.

Agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the face of everybody in the world, it seems, doing everything they can to keep the schools open, it’s not enough for you. You still have to come on here and complain. So many of you are so damned selfish, thinking only of how the pandemic affects you and your family and no one else. It’s really sad.

I actually think the schools-open-at-any-cost folks are the selfish ones. Totally ignoring that large swaths of our city are still unvaccinated, that immunocompromised folks exist, that hospital workers are at their breaking point and that schools have proven to be a major source of infection in our city. But we can’t possibly close school for three days!!!

If they are unvaccinated that's their fault. They've had ample time to get free shots to protect themselves and their family. If they failed to do that, that's on them.

Also, there is zero proof that schools are a "major source of infection in our city." You are spreading panic and misinformation. Get your doctor to prescribe you something for your anxiety.

DP: This is getting so silly. Where do you think all these teachers and students are getting infected. I feel like at this point we need a moderator to step in bc there’s no way to prove it one way or another