Why do men use sugar dating sites

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Sugar daddy here. $50k is way out of the norm. It's a lot lower than that if you find girls who aren't pros.

Most of the ones I've been with are women in their mid-20s, out of college, and looking for an older man and some excitement. The money is nice but not their main goal.

Hahahahaha!! Money is DEFINITELY the goal. You think they 20 something just wants to spend time with you?! If money wasn’t the goal, she would just match with guys her dad’s age on the apps.

DP, it's about the experiences that an older, more established guy can curate and provide for them. Those do require money to a certain extent, but it's not exclusively cold hard cash. It's status, access, experience and know how.

This. I'll give an example of one I met a few weeks ago. I was in a mid-size midwestern city on business. The one I met was 25, college graduate, and working a boring office-type job. She said she tried dating guys her age but they were all weird and/or broke. I'm 45, have all my hair and no grey, fit, dress well, and I've traveled and lived around the world. To her, that's interesting. To me, she's pretty, wild in bed, and it's fun to go out with her and talk to her -- reminds me of my youth I guess.

I mentioned to her when I was with her that she could join me on future trips. She texted me this week asking about exactly that, and I'll be meeting her next month. I'll do my meetings during the day while she checks out the city, then we can go out at night and check out some nice local restaurants and cocktail bars. She gets to see a new city, I get to have a great dinner companion.

She's never once brought up money, but I give it to her without her asking, and of course pay for all meals, travel, etc.

Are you married? And what did she mean by guys her age being weird?

[Anonymous]

Just higher class prostitution.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Sugar daddy here. $50k is way out of the norm. It's a lot lower than that if you find girls who aren't pros.

Most of the ones I've been with are women in their mid-20s, out of college, and looking for an older man and some excitement. The money is nice but not their main goal.

Hahahahaha!! Money is DEFINITELY the goal. You think they 20 something just wants to spend time with you?! If money wasn’t the goal, she would just match with guys her dad’s age on the apps.

DP, it's about the experiences that an older, more established guy can curate and provide for them. Those do require money to a certain extent, but it's not exclusively cold hard cash. It's status, access, experience and know how.

This. I'll give an example of one I met a few weeks ago. I was in a mid-size midwestern city on business. The one I met was 25, college graduate, and working a boring office-type job. She said she tried dating guys her age but they were all weird and/or broke. I'm 45, have all my hair and no grey, fit, dress well, and I've traveled and lived around the world. To her, that's interesting. To me, she's pretty, wild in bed, and it's fun to go out with her and talk to her -- reminds me of my youth I guess.

I mentioned to her when I was with her that she could join me on future trips. She texted me this week asking about exactly that, and I'll be meeting her next month. I'll do my meetings during the day while she checks out the city, then we can go out at night and check out some nice local restaurants and cocktail bars. She gets to see a new city, I get to have a great dinner companion.

She's never once brought up money, but I give it to her without her asking, and of course pay for all meals, travel, etc.

Are you married? And what did she mean by guys her age being weird?

oh, ok

[Anonymous]

I've been a SD for a decade, divorced and too busy for traditional dating. My relationships have mostly been with single moms (30 and above) who are looking for same with financial or travel benefits. The most I have spent is 5 bens per visit and it's better than a hookup imo. Don't understand the stigma with this approach to dating and satisfying one's needs (both physically and financially) but it works for me right now. I know an old SB who is a divorced mother of 2, European former model who met her second husband (big law firm) right after me on the same site. I know another SB who got pregnant and had a baby from a SD after striking out with me... dont need more kids at this stage of my life. Open your mind OP, more common than you think.

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I had someone offer to be my sugar daddy. I had known him a few years back. He was interested in me but I wasn’t interested in him. But after he changed careers and started making a lot of money he tracked me down through an old acquaintance. He told our mutual friend and me that his friends had sugar babies. He told me if I was interested he’d pay for my apartment in Manhattan and take me to events, dinners etc. It weirded me out but I got the impression this happens a lot in certain circles. A female friend said she would do it if she got offered that and she was totally serious.

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Isn't that what the Ashley Madison debacle was about? Men who aren't that successful in their field, looking for women too dumb to know any better?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I had someone offer to be my sugar daddy. I had known him a few years back. He was interested in me but I wasn’t interested in him. But after he changed careers and started making a lot of money he tracked me down through an old acquaintance. He told our mutual friend and me that his friends had sugar babies. He told me if I was interested he’d pay for my apartment in Manhattan and take me to events, dinners etc. It weirded me out but I got the impression this happens a lot in certain circles. A female friend said she would do it if she got offered that and she was totally serious.

Yup. Went to law school with someone who received gifts from an older married guy (not even that rich). Came across as gross, then and now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sugar daddy here. $50k is way out of the norm. It's a lot lower than that if you find girls who aren't pros.

Most of the ones I've been with are women in their mid-20s, out of college, and looking for an older man and some excitement. The money is nice but not their main goal.

why would a 20 something find a 45 yr old middled aged man who makes 50K/yr "exciting"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Sugar daddy here. $50k is way out of the norm. It's a lot lower than that if you find girls who aren't pros.

Most of the ones I've been with are women in their mid-20s, out of college, and looking for an older man and some excitement. The money is nice but not their main goal.

Hahahahaha!! Money is DEFINITELY the goal. You think they 20 something just wants to spend time with you?! If money wasn’t the goal, she would just match with guys her dad’s age on the apps.

DP, it's about the experiences that an older, more established guy can curate and provide for them. Those do require money to a certain extent, but it's not exclusively cold hard cash. It's status, access, experience and know how.

This. I'll give an example of one I met a few weeks ago. I was in a mid-size midwestern city on business. The one I met was 25, college graduate, and working a boring office-type job. She said she tried dating guys her age but they were all weird and/or broke. I'm 45, have all my hair and no grey, fit, dress well, and I've traveled and lived around the world. To her, that's interesting. To me, she's pretty, wild in bed, and it's fun to go out with her and talk to her -- reminds me of my youth I guess.

I mentioned to her when I was with her that she could join me on future trips. She texted me this week asking about exactly that, and I'll be meeting her next month. I'll do my meetings during the day while she checks out the city, then we can go out at night and check out some nice local restaurants and cocktail bars. She gets to see a new city, I get to have a great dinner companion.

She's never once brought up money, but I give it to her without her asking, and of course pay for all meals, travel, etc.

That’s not a sugar arrangement. She just likes dating older men, which is fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Sugar daddy here. $50k is way out of the norm. It's a lot lower than that if you find girls who aren't pros.

Most of the ones I've been with are women in their mid-20s, out of college, and looking for an older man and some excitement. The money is nice but not their main goal.

Hahahahaha!! Money is DEFINITELY the goal. You think they 20 something just wants to spend time with you?! If money wasn’t the goal, she would just match with guys her dad’s age on the apps.

DP, it's about the experiences that an older, more established guy can curate and provide for them. Those do require money to a certain extent, but it's not exclusively cold hard cash. It's status, access, experience and know how.

I'm sorry, but what does a 50 yr old man who make $50k/yr have access to that a 28 yr old man making $50k/yr doesn't have access to?

And what status? "old dude" status?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've been a SD for a decade, divorced and too busy for traditional dating. My relationships have mostly been with single moms (30 and above) who are looking for same with financial or travel benefits. The most I have spent is 5 bens per visit and it's better than a hookup imo. Don't understand the stigma with this approach to dating and satisfying one's needs (both physically and financially) but it works for me right now. I know an old SB who is a divorced mother of 2, European former model who met her second husband (big law firm) right after me on the same site. I know another SB who got pregnant and had a baby from a SD after striking out with me... dont need more kids at this stage of my life. Open your mind OP, more common than you think.

I mean sure, you only have to look at our last POTUS to realize that this is pretty common.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Sugar daddy here. $50k is way out of the norm. It's a lot lower than that if you find girls who aren't pros.

Most of the ones I've been with are women in their mid-20s, out of college, and looking for an older man and some excitement. The money is nice but not their main goal.

Hahahahaha!! Money is DEFINITELY the goal. You think they 20 something just wants to spend time with you?! If money wasn’t the goal, she would just match with guys her dad’s age on the apps.

DP, it's about the experiences that an older, more established guy can curate and provide for them. Those do require money to a certain extent, but it's not exclusively cold hard cash. It's status, access, experience and know how.

This. I'll give an example of one I met a few weeks ago. I was in a mid-size midwestern city on business. The one I met was 25, college graduate, and working a boring office-type job. She said she tried dating guys her age but they were all weird and/or broke. I'm 45, have all my hair and no grey, fit, dress well, and I've traveled and lived around the world. To her, that's interesting. To me, she's pretty, wild in bed, and it's fun to go out with her and talk to her -- reminds me of my youth I guess.

I mentioned to her when I was with her that she could join me on future trips. She texted me this week asking about exactly that, and I'll be meeting her next month. I'll do my meetings during the day while she checks out the city, then we can go out at night and check out some nice local restaurants and cocktail bars. She gets to see a new city, I get to have a great dinner companion.

She's never once brought up money, but I give it to her without her asking, and of course pay for all meals, travel, etc.

That’s not a sugar arrangement. She just likes dating older men, which is fine.

yes it is a sugar arrangement, just on a much smaller scale. She wants to travel; she gets it paid for by him. He may not be "paying" her in cold hard cash but he is paying for her nonetheless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sounds a lot like the Epstein/Ghilane trial I’ve been watching.

They paid those girls $300 a “pop”. The girls said they did it first the $$.

It is no different at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Sugar daddy here. $50k is way out of the norm. It's a lot lower than that if you find girls who aren't pros.

Most of the ones I've been with are women in their mid-20s, out of college, and looking for an older man and some excitement. The money is nice but not their main goal.

Hahahahaha!! Money is DEFINITELY the goal. You think they 20 something just wants to spend time with you?! If money wasn’t the goal, she would just match with guys her dad’s age on the apps.

DP, it's about the experiences that an older, more established guy can curate and provide for them. Those do require money to a certain extent, but it's not exclusively cold hard cash. It's status, access, experience and know how.

I'm sorry, but what does a 50 yr old man who make $50k/yr have access to that a 28 yr old man making $50k/yr doesn't have access to?

And what status? "old dude" status?

She would be getting 50k a year no how much he makes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've talked about this here before but I was a sugar baby briefly ~15 years ago. I never had sex or anything close to it, really. I think I made out with one of the guys but I probably would've done that even if he hadn't just taken me on a shopping spree.

Just to go on record, it's not always prostitution. One could argue that marriage is a form of enslaved prostitution. Point being, there's nuance in everything.

Uh no one could not argue that lol. Sugar babies on the subreddit I shared earlier always make this argument to justify their trashy life choices. He married his wife, he pays you for sex. Y’all are not the same.

It's exactly the same for SAHWs. It only comes with an additional 8X4 paper that makes it harder to leave - wife of 20 years so far here. OK, maybe the wife also buys toilet paper and dove liquid soap for the household, I give you that. Obviously, this makes the wife morally superior.

No it’s not exactly the same. SAHW can turn down sex on particular occasions while still staying in the contract. A sugar baby probably can’t keep getting sugar without putting out.

So a wife is a sugar baby with sick leave. Limited of course, this is a marriage, not working at Netflix where one gets unlimited PTO.

Sounds like a lot of wives keep the room and board without having sex. I think the idea is that they popped out your kids and care for them. Which presumably a sugar baby doesn’t do. It’s a completely different contract, with a lot more money on the table once you figure in divorce costs.