Coaches Intel - The Demise of GA...possibly

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s the same people who year after year go after BRYC saying they are about to be kicked out of ECNL-they are not.
One year it was supposed to be definite and it was not and now the Loudoun and GA hate. I wonder does this poster spend all their time dreaming up negative things that will not happen? Get back to work.


ECNL has to be seriously considering whacking BRYC. There is just not a single age group that is even slightly competitive. The Loudoun stuff is just poppycock. ECNL knew the older teams would not be terribly successful but the younger teams would likely retain their talent and remain competitive and that is proving true.

Same would go for Arlington. Their younger teams are doing just fine.


Lol You labor under a false premise. The league is not about elite soccer, being competitive or “developing” players. It’s about making money, protecting existing clubs(the bigger the more influence they have in the league) and getting as much money out of their clients as they can. So yes BRYC is fine, is not going anywhere and has no pressure to change. Their decline is more about the area they draw from and all the clubs there vs anything else. They will still put kids in college.

Loudoun has a huge pool of players and can continue to suck at the older ages because no one cares. They can game the ulittles, win, have like 5-6 teams(make a ton of money) and by the time you are U15/u16 it’s over. You are not changing teams at that point, the rosters are set and it is too late develop for college. This is not an attack on Loudoun other clubs do the same thing. Arlington at the lower ages have one coach for two teams. Everyone gets charge the same but the coach is only paying attention to maybe 8-10 kids at the most. The other 22 are basically on their own. Lots of kid fall through the cracks at that programs. It’s a extremely bad way to develop players or teach kids at the young ages but it is cheap and uses less field space. Think if you had a choice at 3rd or 4th grade for your kid. One school will have one teacher for 32 kids. The other will have one teacher for 16 kids. Oh and because of logistics the coach will show up for 1/2 your games if your kid is on the 2nd team you are lucky.

An ECNL club does not get more money for putting kids in college or winning games. There is no pressure to win or develop players. Seriously it is a ticket to print money.


Translation, I’m a FCV parent and since FCV isn’t in ECNL even though we are superior to BRYC that means ECNL only cares about money. The day FCV somehow gets in ECNL then that day ECNL will be the superior league.


That’s a mistranslation. The same is true of GA.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Compete nationally? Without looking it up please list for us what teams won national youth soccer championships last year.

Stop with the compete nationally nonsense. It is not what should be driving youth soccer.


Compete = take part in a contest

Won = be successful or victorious in (a contest or conflict)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Compete nationally? Without looking it up please list for us what teams won national youth soccer championships last year.

Stop with the compete nationally nonsense. It is not what should be driving youth soccer.


But it does. Sure, nobody cares the years after it happened but those who competed get sooooo many more looks. Look no further than the Solar, Blues, LAFC and PDA recruiting classes. Or even MVLA and Tophat. Get back to me with your answer.

To be blunt, even State High School Champions are remembered more with names and year hung somewhere on the High School grounds but D1 schools care about that a lot less than a successful club team.



And to even further the example, look at the recruiting class of McLean, Bethesda, and FCV from 2012 to 2020. These teams competed nationally at the top level. All of them had close or more than 10 D1 scholarships in good years, some of which even are on USWNT today. Compare that to recent years, and our area has not had near as strong as classes with FCV perhaps being the exception.


One. One of which is on a UWNT today. One.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Compete nationally? Without looking it up please list for us what teams won national youth soccer championships last year.

Stop with the compete nationally nonsense. It is not what should be driving youth soccer.


But it does. Sure, nobody cares the years after it happened but those who competed get sooooo many more looks. Look no further than the Solar, Blues, LAFC and PDA recruiting classes. Or even MVLA and Tophat. Get back to me with your answer.

To be blunt, even State High School Champions are remembered more with names and year hung somewhere on the High School grounds but D1 schools care about that a lot less than a successful club team.



And to even further the example, look at the recruiting class of McLean, Bethesda, and FCV from 2012 to 2020. These teams competed nationally at the top level. All of them had close or more than 10 D1 scholarships in good years, some of which even are on USWNT today. Compare that to recent years, and our area has not had near as strong as classes with FCV perhaps being the exception.


FCV jumped the shark in 2020. That was the end of a things Elite about FCV. (BP influence of the demise maybe?? Probably?)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Compete nationally? Without looking it up please list for us what teams won national youth soccer championships last year.

Stop with the compete nationally nonsense. It is not what should be driving youth soccer.


But it does. Sure, nobody cares the years after it happened but those who competed get sooooo many more looks. Look no further than the Solar, Blues, LAFC and PDA recruiting classes. Or even MVLA and Tophat. Get back to me with your answer.

To be blunt, even State High School Champions are remembered more with names and year hung somewhere on the High School grounds but D1 schools care about that a lot less than a successful club team.



And to even further the example, look at the recruiting class of McLean, Bethesda, and FCV from 2012 to 2020. These teams competed nationally at the top level. All of them had close or more than 10 D1 scholarships in good years, some of which even are on USWNT today. Compare that to recent years, and our area has not had near as strong as classes with FCV perhaps being the exception.


One. One of which is on a UWNT today. One.


Wrong, geesh. There are four players. Midge Purce, Emily Fox, Imani Dorsey, and Andi Sullivan.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Compete nationally? Without looking it up please list for us what teams won national youth soccer championships last year.

Stop with the compete nationally nonsense. It is not what should be driving youth soccer.


But it does. Sure, nobody cares the years after it happened but those who competed get sooooo many more looks. Look no further than the Solar, Blues, LAFC and PDA recruiting classes. Or even MVLA and Tophat. Get back to me with your answer.

To be blunt, even State High School Champions are remembered more with names and year hung somewhere on the High School grounds but D1 schools care about that a lot less than a successful club team.



And to even further the example, look at the recruiting class of McLean, Bethesda, and FCV from 2012 to 2020. These teams competed nationally at the top level. All of them had close or more than 10 D1 scholarships in good years, some of which even are on USWNT today. Compare that to recent years, and our area has not had near as strong as classes with FCV perhaps being the exception.


One. One of which is on a UWNT today. One.


Wrong, geesh. There are four players. Midge Purce, Emily Fox, Imani Dorsey, and Andi Sullivan.


WTF is this non-sense? Oh my……lol
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Compete nationally? Without looking it up please list for us what teams won national youth soccer championships last year.

Stop with the compete nationally nonsense. It is not what should be driving youth soccer.


But it does. Sure, nobody cares the years after it happened but those who competed get sooooo many more looks. Look no further than the Solar, Blues, LAFC and PDA recruiting classes. Or even MVLA and Tophat. Get back to me with your answer.

To be blunt, even State High School Champions are remembered more with names and year hung somewhere on the High School grounds but D1 schools care about that a lot less than a successful club team.



And to even further the example, look at the recruiting class of McLean, Bethesda, and FCV from 2012 to 2020. These teams competed nationally at the top level. All of them had close or more than 10 D1 scholarships in good years, some of which even are on USWNT today. Compare that to recent years, and our area has not had near as strong as classes with FCV perhaps being the exception.


One. One of which is on a UWNT today. One.


Wrong, geesh. There are four players. Midge Purce, Emily Fox, Imani Dorsey, and Andi Sullivan.


WTF is this non-sense? Oh my……lol


https://www.ussoccer.com/players

Please feel free to look for yourself so you don't embarrass yourself anymore. All of the above players competed for National Championships. Midge Purce at Free State/MD United, Emily Fox at FCV, Andi Sullivan at Bethesda/McLain, Imani Dorsey at Freestate/MD United.

When you are done with that, try to find out which of them played High School Soccer as well.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Compete nationally? Without looking it up please list for us what teams won national youth soccer championships last year.

Stop with the compete nationally nonsense. It is not what should be driving youth soccer.


But it does. Sure, nobody cares the years after it happened but those who competed get sooooo many more looks. Look no further than the Solar, Blues, LAFC and PDA recruiting classes. Or even MVLA and Tophat. Get back to me with your answer.

To be blunt, even State High School Champions are remembered more with names and year hung somewhere on the High School grounds but D1 schools care about that a lot less than a successful club team.



And to even further the example, look at the recruiting class of McLean, Bethesda, and FCV from 2012 to 2020. These teams competed nationally at the top level. All of them had close or more than 10 D1 scholarships in good years, some of which even are on USWNT today. Compare that to recent years, and our area has not had near as strong as classes with FCV perhaps being the exception.


One. One of which is on a UWNT today. One.


Wrong, geesh. There are four players. Midge Purce, Emily Fox, Imani Dorsey, and Andi Sullivan.


If you make decisions for your player based on what a pro player did you get what you deserve. Your player is not making the us national team. Just stop it.
Anonymous
Regarding the rumored demise, is there talk that some clubs locally or nationally are leaving GA? I expect GA will be aggressively looking to expand. Having 2 clubs in this area isn’t viable long-term.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Regarding the rumored demise, is there talk that some clubs locally or nationally are leaving GA? I expect GA will be aggressively looking to expand. Having 2 clubs in this area isn’t viable long-term.


There are other people here other than Virginians. Baltimore Armour and Baltimore Celtic. What, are you going to add FC Frederick, Coppermine and VYS? At that point GA would just be a glorified EDP league. Game over man, game over.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Compete nationally? Without looking it up please list for us what teams won national youth soccer championships last year.

Stop with the compete nationally nonsense. It is not what should be driving youth soccer.


But it does. Sure, nobody cares the years after it happened but those who competed get sooooo many more looks. Look no further than the Solar, Blues, LAFC and PDA recruiting classes. Or even MVLA and Tophat. Get back to me with your answer.

To be blunt, even State High School Champions are remembered more with names and year hung somewhere on the High School grounds but D1 schools care about that a lot less than a successful club team.



And to even further the example, look at the recruiting class of McLean, Bethesda, and FCV from 2012 to 2020. These teams competed nationally at the top level. All of them had close or more than 10 D1 scholarships in good years, some of which even are on USWNT today. Compare that to recent years, and our area has not had near as strong as classes with FCV perhaps being the exception.


One. One of which is on a UWNT today. One.


Wrong, geesh. There are four players. Midge Purce, Emily Fox, Imani Dorsey, and Andi Sullivan.


WTF is this non-sense? Oh my……lol


https://www.ussoccer.com/players

Please feel free to look for yourself so you don't embarrass yourself anymore. All of the above players competed for National Championships. Midge Purce at Free State/MD United, Emily Fox at FCV, Andi Sullivan at Bethesda/McLain, Imani Dorsey at Freestate/MD United.

When you are done with that, try to find out which of them played High School Soccer as well.


My guy - I though you were trying to say all those kids played at FCV. It would be easier to read if you breathed between sentences
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Regarding the rumored demise, is there talk that some clubs locally or nationally are leaving GA? I expect GA will be aggressively looking to expand. Having 2 clubs in this area isn’t viable long-term.


There are other people here other than Virginians. Baltimore Armour and Baltimore Celtic. What, are you going to add FC Frederick, Coppermine and VYS? At that point GA would just be a glorified EDP league. Game over man, game over.


Sorry - don’t mean to exclude Baltimore clubs, but don’t really consider them DC Metro area. I don’t think GA can just stand pat, because they’ll lose clubs to ECNL, so think they better try something.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Regarding the rumored demise, is there talk that some clubs locally or nationally are leaving GA? I expect GA will be aggressively looking to expand. Having 2 clubs in this area isn’t viable long-term.


I would suspect ECNL would be targeting larger top performing GA clubs and then add some clubs GA/non-GA in specific regions to consolidate some divisions.

ECNL North Atlantic division is thin and could use a extra club or two. The Mid Atlantic is a club or two away from being divided into a North/South conference by consolidating Virginia and then North and South Carolina.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Regarding the rumored demise, is there talk that some clubs locally or nationally are leaving GA? I expect GA will be aggressively looking to expand. Having 2 clubs in this area isn’t viable long-term.


I would suspect ECNL would be targeting larger top performing GA clubs and then add some clubs GA/non-GA in specific regions to consolidate some divisions.

ECNL North Atlantic division is thin and could use a extra club or two. The Mid Atlantic is a club or two away from being divided into a North/South conference by consolidating Virginia and then North and South Carolina.



Larger top performing clubs? Be for real

I’m see FCV parents are finally acknowledging that GA is not the awful
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Regarding the rumored demise, is there talk that some clubs locally or nationally are leaving GA? I expect GA will be aggressively looking to expand. Having 2 clubs in this area isn’t viable long-term.


I would suspect ECNL would be targeting larger top performing GA clubs and then add some clubs GA/non-GA in specific regions to consolidate some divisions.

ECNL North Atlantic division is thin and could use a extra club or two. The Mid Atlantic is a club or two away from being divided into a North/South conference by consolidating Virginia and then North and South Carolina.



Larger top performing clubs? Be for real

I’m see FCV parents are finally acknowledging that GA is not the awful


FCV is not a large club.
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