Are you a woman or a man? Gay or straight? Such a confusing post that has little to do with whether GMU is a worthwhile school, which by the way, it’s fiiiiine. |
It's still mostly a commuter school and cybersecurity is more of a trade than something someone studies in college. |
Accurate. My DH's nephew who spent the ages of 18-30-something unemployed and living off of his aging mother (and possibly marijuana sales) now has a job in "cyber security." He may have taken a few classes at NOVA, but he definitely doesn't have an Associate's degree, and never spent a day at a 4-yr college. |
I had a colonoscopy last week. The Gastro specialist (who also does surgeries) likely makes over $1M/year. Guess what, he had to stick a tube up my ass and watch it wiggle around and has likely does that for decades now. No different that what a plumber does. I'd gladly do his 'trade' for a million bucks. While Cybersecurity jobs won't pay as much, they certainly pay more than what the vast majority of non-trade professions (whatever they are) that kids study at 'top' schools including at your favorite LAC/SLAC. |
Inaccurate. |
True CyberSecurity grads (4 years) from GMU can call their own shots before graduation. https://cec.gmu.edu/strengths/cybersecurity. It can't be compared to someone who has a few classes in at Nova. |
You must be very old if you think this. GMu stopped being a commuter school in 2010 when the Carnegie Foundation reclassified it as a primarily residential college. https://collegeexplorations.blogspot.com/2011/01/three-virginia-universities-drop.html. Today, all freshman are required to live on campus unless they get a waiver. Our DS (SN) spent five very happy years in the dorms surrounded by international students and students from the west coast. |
Not. GMU - https://careers.gmu.edu/about-ucs/data-outcomes - Median salary $72K; i.e. Half the students make more than 72K and the top 25% likely make more than 100K. Guess where cybersecurity grads land? Williams - https://lookerstudio.google.com/reporting/a80ebd2d-f1bf-4a18-8ce9-45a37c861d4b/page/p_46mwzp2kuc?s=sVbAr0tvmQc Median - $75K. We don't have the salary distribution here by percentile, but it's safe to assume that the cybersecurity grads out of GMU are in the top 10% of GMU grads in terms or salary and, yes, they do make more money than "the vast vast majority of non-trade professions (whatever they are) that kids study at 'top' schools including at your favorite LAC/SLAC." |
True I'd imagine they can make as much as a plumber! |
I think you are seriously underestimating the knowledge and skill necessary to make sure that the "plumbing job" done on a human goes safely. |
Of course! Hence the salary differential between a doctor/surgeon and a plumber. Take it up a level.. The medical profession IS a trade, much like plumbing or, in the argument being made here, cybersecurity. More valuable, yes, but still a trade. |
PP here. I don't disagree. I'm a lawyer, and it is basically a trade. |