Postcards from out of state encouraging me to vote

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did they ask or tell you how to vote? I have done vote postcards in the past but there was no mention of voting for a specific candidate. Just a message about how voting was an important civic opportunity to be engaged and have a say. Honestly, if it inspires you to go vote for either candidate, it’s a win for the process.

You know nothing about targeted mailings. The return address, alone, signals a party preference.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I volunteered to write these postcards during the presidential election. It felt like I could do something, when I otherwise felt hopeless. Throw it away if it bothers you, move on.

So the thing is, getting these cards from out of state feels intrusive. I totally get that the people sending them feel like they’ve “done something”, but I really do doubt if they’ve done what you hope they will do. I remember back in 2016 when dh was at a grad program in MA. He had classmates who were heavily-accented non-citizens canvassing NH for Hilary. I get that they felt like they were doing something, but I really think their efforts were misguided. Sometimes it matters what you do, not just that you’ve done “something”.

First, you are wrong on whether these postcards work. Second, you sound so racist. Heavily accented people can’t care about elections in countries in which they are living? Really?

Do you really want to be schooled by a non-citizen on how you should vote in an election? Really?

They were more knowledgeable and smarter than the Americans who voted for Trump. I don’t even understand why you are assuming they weren’t citizens.

Of course these students should be more knowledgeable and smarter, they are the cream of theyr countryes intelligentsia and came to this country to further their education. The Trump voters — often from generations of US natives are not given the same — or any — opportunities by the government.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I volunteered to write these postcards during the presidential election. It felt like I could do something, when I otherwise felt hopeless. Throw it away if it bothers you, move on.

So the thing is, getting these cards from out of state feels intrusive. I totally get that the people sending them feel like they’ve “done something”, but I really do doubt if they’ve done what you hope they will do. I remember back in 2016 when dh was at a grad program in MA. He had classmates who were heavily-accented non-citizens canvassing NH for Hilary. I get that they felt like they were doing something, but I really think their efforts were misguided. Sometimes it matters what you do, not just that you’ve done “something”.

First, you are wrong on whether these postcards work. Second, you sound so racist. Heavily accented people can’t care about elections in countries in which they are living? Really?

Do you really want to be schooled by a non-citizen on how you should vote in an election? Really?

They were more knowledgeable and smarter than the Americans who voted for Trump. I don’t even understand why you are assuming they weren’t citizens.

Trump himself would absolutely, unequivocally fail the U.S. citizenship test taken by immigrants if you pulled him into a room with no ability to cheat. No. Question. Whatsoever.

And neither would you. I work with citizenship applicants and they study intensely to pass the exam.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I also find these highly annoying. You aren’t a member of my community why are you bothering me? Especially for a statewide race. My senator might have some impact on you but my governor? Go away.

You know all of the tv/mail/internet ads are financed by people outside of your community, right? Are you as mad at them too?

Like George S and Mark Z

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I got two postcards in the mail today. One postmarked California, one postmarked IL. Handwritten notes encouraging me to vote on 11/2. As a person who doesn’t like either candidate, this goes in the “Con” column for McAuliffe. Are there any studies showing these things help? Because honestly it really just pisses me off to have strangers from across the country sending me these things. My vote is based on the best interest of my state, not people outside the state.

Poor you. I got a "handwritten" note from "Jenni" in California urging me to vote for Terry McAuliffe. I assumed it was just sent through some cheap mailing house in California and that Jenni really lives in Annandale.

What I think is funny are the texts. They are all from boomer women named Linda, Judy, Donna, Janet and most are from DC's 202 area code. They could be from liberal women in DC who are volunteering for the McAuliffe campaign because their husbands knew him at Catholic U Law School or knew Bill Clinton at Georgetown undergrad. Several today said something like: "President Biden is coming to Northern Virginia today! (Boomer lady name) with the Democrats inviting you to join President Biden and Terry McAuliffe in Arlington. 'Doors open' at 5 pm."

Poor boomer ladies. No one told them that Biden will be at a park and there are no "doors" at the park.

I always respond the same way: I will be in touch with you on November 3.

The poor dears generally respond with a perky: "Thank you!!!!"

So, you make your decision about voting and people in general by their names? Really? And you are judging us?

I am a BOOMER, yes, who wrote postcards, did cold calling, and did canvassing. I am not your "poor dear." I don't sit at home watching the View and writing cards while sipping tea. How condescending and ignorant. I am a college professor who cares about
1. Your taxes
2. Your public education
3. Gun sense legislation
4. Your voting right
5. Your health care
6. Your democracy...very much at stake in your state.
The people I know who write these are teachers, lawyers, veterarians, business owners, federal workers, engineers, coders, and social media managers.

You are offended by boomer names? Great, we will sign the next round with Madison, Brynnleigh, Crystal, and Ashley. 2 of these ladies, with names like this, named their kids Ruth and Eleanor, BTW.
I live in another state, and I can assure you that your election very much affects all of us, and that is what the postcards remind everyone of. Looks like these ladies are far more aware of what's going on than this generation.

Jenni doesn't live in Annandale. She likely is a MomsDemandAction volunteer from California, or Iwillvote.com volunteer or anyone of many groups that towed the line for the last 4 years trying to save this country. Look at Georgia...do you think that didn't take effort from these tireless volunteers? If you vote the opposite way as a result of receiving a postcard (?), then you will deserve Trump 2.0. But, we don't. Wake up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also find these highly annoying. You aren’t a member of my community why are you bothering me? Especially for a statewide race. My senator might have some impact on you but my governor? Go away.

You know all of the tv/mail/internet ads are financed by people outside of your community, right? Are you as mad at them too?

Like George S and Mark Z

You are a Republican who has already gone down the rabbit hole of lies. So, we get that a postcard won't help your decision.

The postcards are paid for by the actual writers, namely the person who pens it. 6 cents per card, 40 cents to mail. I paid for mine, everyone paid for their own. Take your conspiracy theories and dump them in the trash- where you threw your card away

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also find these highly annoying. You aren’t a member of my community why are you bothering me? Especially for a statewide race. My senator might have some impact on you but my governor? Go away.

You know all of the tv/mail/internet ads are financed by people outside of your community, right? Are you as mad at them too?

Like George S and Mark Z

You are a Republican who has already gone down the rabbit hole of lies. So, we get that a postcard won't help your decision.

The postcards are paid for by the actual writers, namely the person who pens it. 6 cents per card, 40 cents to mail. I paid for mine, everyone paid for their own. Take your conspiracy theories and dump them in the trash- where you threw your card away

You don't understand why people outside of your purple community would care? You don't get that?

And you actually vote without understanding this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did they ask or tell you how to vote? I have done vote postcards in the past but there was no mention of voting for a specific candidate. Just a message about how voting was an important civic opportunity to be engaged and have a say. Honestly, if it inspires you to go vote for either candidate, it’s a win for the process.

You know nothing about targeted mailings. The return address, alone, signals a party preference.

No, it signals an individual, with others seeing preconceived notions of what that signals. Notions that very often turn out to be wrong. The voting behavior in the last election is an excellent example of the fallacies of seeing ‘signals’ from a return address.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I got two postcards in the mail today. One postmarked California, one postmarked IL. Handwritten notes encouraging me to vote on 11/2. As a person who doesn’t like either candidate, this goes in the “Con” column for McAuliffe. Are there any studies showing these things help? Because honestly it really just pisses me off to have strangers from across the country sending me these things. My vote is based on the best interest of my state, not people outside the state.

Poor you. I got a "handwritten" note from "Jenni" in California urging me to vote for Terry McAuliffe. I assumed it was just sent through some cheap mailing house in California and that Jenni really lives in Annandale.

What I think is funny are the texts. They are all from boomer women named Linda, Judy, Donna, Janet and most are from DC's 202 area code. They could be from liberal women in DC who are volunteering for the McAuliffe campaign because their husbands knew him at Catholic U Law School or knew Bill Clinton at Georgetown undergrad. Several today said something like: "President Biden is coming to Northern Virginia today! (Boomer lady name) with the Democrats inviting you to join President Biden and Terry McAuliffe in Arlington. 'Doors open' at 5 pm."

Poor boomer ladies. No one told them that Biden will be at a park and there are no "doors" at the park.

I always respond the same way: I will be in touch with you on November 3.

The poor dears generally respond with a perky: "Thank you!!!!"

So, you make your decision about voting and people in general by their names? Really? And you are judging us?

I am a BOOMER, yes, who wrote postcards, did cold calling, and did canvassing. I am not your "poor dear." I don't sit at home watching the View and writing cards while sipping tea. How condescending and ignorant. I am a college professor who cares about
1. Your taxes
2. Your public education
3. Gun sense legislation
4. Your voting right
5. Your health care
6. Your democracy...very much at stake in your state.
The people I know who write these are teachers, lawyers, veterarians, business owners, federal workers, engineers, coders, and social media managers.

You are offended by boomer names? Great, we will sign the next round with Madison, Brynnleigh, Crystal, and Ashley. 2 of these ladies, with names like this, named their kids Ruth and Eleanor, BTW.
I live in another state, and I can assure you that your election very much affects all of us, and that is what the postcards remind everyone of. Looks like these ladies are far more aware of what's going on than this generation.

Jenni doesn't live in Annandale. She likely is a MomsDemandAction volunteer from California, or Iwillvote.com volunteer or anyone of many groups that towed the line for the last 4 years trying to save this country. Look at Georgia...do you think that didn't take effort from these tireless volunteers? If you vote the opposite way as a result of receiving a postcard (?), then you will deserve Trump 2.0. But, we don't. Wake up.

I don’t care about your opinion on my vote for the governor of the state I live in. No one in NoVA needs a reminder that there is an election coming up. These cards are useless and obnoxious. It’s incredibly presumptuous for someone on the other side of the country to think that they know better than I do what is the right thing for my community. In an educated and informed community like they are targeting, I really do think the mailings will have the opposite effect than the one intended.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also find these highly annoying. You aren’t a member of my community why are you bothering me? Especially for a statewide race. My senator might have some impact on you but my governor? Go away.

You know all of the tv/mail/internet ads are financed by people outside of your community, right? Are you as mad at them too?

Are you kidding? Those are insanely annoying!!! I actually grew up in Iowa, hating political ads is my birthright.

Great - then a handwritten postcard from an individual from another state would logically be less upsetting that the fact that big corporations pump money into Super PACs to send you ads/mail/flyers, etc on how to vote in your community, no?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also find these highly annoying. You aren’t a member of my community why are you bothering me? Especially for a statewide race. My senator might have some impact on you but my governor? Go away.

You know all of the tv/mail/internet ads are financed by people outside of your community, right? Are you as mad at them too?

Like George S and Mark Z

And the Koch Brothers. And the Adelsons. And Richard Uihlein, Ken Griffin, Timothy Mellon, Joe Ricketts, and Paul Singer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I volunteered to write these postcards during the presidential election. It felt like I could do something, when I otherwise felt hopeless. Throw it away if it bothers you, move on.

Postcards from out of state bother me as an organizer, because people could be spending that time on meaningful local issues. Those couple hours showing up at a community meeting, doing data entry for a local org, writing your local elected reps about issues have so much more power.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I volunteered to write these postcards during the presidential election. It felt like I could do something, when I otherwise felt hopeless. Throw it away if it bothers you, move on.

Postcards from out of state bother me as an organizer, because people could be spending that time on meaningful local issues. Those couple hours showing up at a community meeting, doing data entry for a local org, writing your local elected reps about issues have so much more power.

We do. We spend time on our local issues. Your local issues affect everyone, believe it or not. Loudoun is in the national news daily. Trump is stumping for Youngkin. That is what is causing eyeballs to turn to Va.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also find these highly annoying. You aren’t a member of my community why are you bothering me? Especially for a statewide race. My senator might have some impact on you but my governor? Go away.

You know all of the tv/mail/internet ads are financed by people outside of your community, right? Are you as mad at them too?

Like George S and Mark Z

And the Koch Brothers. And the Adelsons. And Richard Uihlein, Ken Griffin, Timothy Mellon, Joe Ricketts, and Paul Singer.

Postcards are not financed by anyone other than writers. Sorry to burst bubbles here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I got two postcards in the mail today. One postmarked California, one postmarked IL. Handwritten notes encouraging me to vote on 11/2. As a person who doesn’t like either candidate, this goes in the “Con” column for McAuliffe. Are there any studies showing these things help? Because honestly it really just pisses me off to have strangers from across the country sending me these things. My vote is based on the best interest of my state, not people outside the state.

Poor you. I got a "handwritten" note from "Jenni" in California urging me to vote for Terry McAuliffe. I assumed it was just sent through some cheap mailing house in California and that Jenni really lives in Annandale.

What I think is funny are the texts. They are all from boomer women named Linda, Judy, Donna, Janet and most are from DC's 202 area code. They could be from liberal women in DC who are volunteering for the McAuliffe campaign because their husbands knew him at Catholic U Law School or knew Bill Clinton at Georgetown undergrad. Several today said something like: "President Biden is coming to Northern Virginia today! (Boomer lady name) with the Democrats inviting you to join President Biden and Terry McAuliffe in Arlington. 'Doors open' at 5 pm."

Poor boomer ladies. No one told them that Biden will be at a park and there are no "doors" at the park.

I always respond the same way: I will be in touch with you on November 3.

The poor dears generally respond with a perky: "Thank you!!!!"

So, you make your decision about voting and people in general by their names? Really? And you are judging us?

I am a BOOMER, yes, who wrote postcards, did cold calling, and did canvassing. I am not your "poor dear." I don't sit at home watching the View and writing cards while sipping tea. How condescending and ignorant. I am a college professor who cares about
1. Your taxes
2. Your public education
3. Gun sense legislation
4. Your voting right
5. Your health care
6. Your democracy...very much at stake in your state.
The people I know who write these are teachers, lawyers, veterarians, business owners, federal workers, engineers, coders, and social media managers.

You are offended by boomer names? Great, we will sign the next round with Madison, Brynnleigh, Crystal, and Ashley. 2 of these ladies, with names like this, named their kids Ruth and Eleanor, BTW.
I live in another state, and I can assure you that your election very much affects all of us, and that is what the postcards remind everyone of. Looks like these ladies are far more aware of what's going on than this generation.

Jenni doesn't live in Annandale. She likely is a MomsDemandAction volunteer from California, or Iwillvote.com volunteer or anyone of many groups that towed the line for the last 4 years trying to save this country. Look at Georgia...do you think that didn't take effort from these tireless volunteers? If you vote the opposite way as a result of receiving a postcard (?), then you will deserve Trump 2.0. But, we don't. Wake up.

I don’t care about your opinion on my vote for the governor of the state I live in. No one in NoVA needs a reminder that there is an election coming up. These cards are useless and obnoxious. It’s incredibly presumptuous for someone on the other side of the country to think that they know better than I do what is the right thing for my community. In an educated and informed community like they are targeting, I really do think the mailings will have the opposite effect than the one intended.

Then you don't understand how Trump got elected. Again...educate yourself. Where the he!! have you been in the last 6 years? Under a rock?