Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What you heard, read online, think, and feel has zero connection to what the facts of the case are.

I don’t agree. This is not just entertainment weekly covering the story every few days in three paragraphs. We have seen hundreds and hundreds of pages of complaints, we’ve seen video from the movie, screenshots of texts. Yes, a lot of this is narrative and it does need to hold up in a court of law, but to say this is all just speculation is crazy. We all live in the real world here.

So what is the evidence you have that Justin needed to know Blake's weight and that he had to obtain that information himself.

Obviously he says / she says isn't evidence. What evidence do you have?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What you heard, read online, think, and feel has zero connection to what the facts of the case are.

I don’t agree. This is not just entertainment weekly covering the story every few days in three paragraphs. We have seen hundreds and hundreds of pages of complaints, we’ve seen video from the movie, screenshots of texts. Yes, a lot of this is narrative and it does need to hold up in a court of law, but to say this is all just speculation is crazy. We all live in the real world here.

The movie clips you see isn't all that was filmed. Most scenes have multiple takes and are released very selectively. Just because you saw a few seconds of film doesn't actually mean you know all the facts and you have the evidence. That is my point. Just because one side shared texts that they felt supported their client and made the other look bad doesn't mean you have all the evidence and know the facts of the case. They left out many others they didn't want you to see. The complaints are biased and they only share some information (and intentionally omit others) and only share with with inflammatory and dramtic language and a bias that is defending their client and attacking the person being sued. It isn't giving you the full picture. Your post is my point exactly. Saying well I heard Blake is like xx or I read on Lipstick Alley that Justing is yyy - isn't facts. Saying well I think I know what happened isn't fact. Saying well I feel Justin would never or Blake would always isn't fact. Reading someone else's opinion and deciding that is what happened - doesn't actually mean that is what happened. Even if you heard it on Youtube or read it on a forum or whatever.

You do realize all the legal documents are public, right? You’re acting like people are just relying on Hollywood reporters or influencers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What you heard, read online, think, and feel has zero connection to what the facts of the case are.

I don’t agree. This is not just entertainment weekly covering the story every few days in three paragraphs. We have seen hundreds and hundreds of pages of complaints, we’ve seen video from the movie, screenshots of texts. Yes, a lot of this is narrative and it does need to hold up in a court of law, but to say this is all just speculation is crazy. We all live in the real world here.

The movie clips you see isn't all that was filmed. Most scenes have multiple takes and are released very selectively. Just because you saw a few seconds of film doesn't actually mean you know all the facts and you have the evidence. That is my point. Just because one side shared texts that they felt supported their client and made the other look bad doesn't mean you have all the evidence and know the facts of the case. They left out many others they didn't want you to see. The complaints are biased and they only share some information (and intentionally omit others) and only share with with inflammatory and dramtic language and a bias that is defending their client and attacking the person being sued. It isn't giving you the full picture. Your post is my point exactly. Saying well I heard Blake is like xx or I read on Lipstick Alley that Justing is yyy - isn't facts. Saying well I think I know what happened isn't fact. Saying well I feel Justin would never or Blake would always isn't fact. Reading someone else's opinion and deciding that is what happened - doesn't actually mean that is what happened. Even if you heard it on Youtube or read it on a forum or whatever.

You do realize all the legal documents are public, right? You’re acting like people are just relying on Hollywood reporters or influencers.

I would say 99% of the people on here are relying pretty much entirely on secondary sources. Clearly most haven't read the documents in their entirety or understood what they say and don't say. Almost no one on here even understands what a legal claim of sexual harrassment is which is why half the post are about how one specific thing isn't sexual harrassment (in their eyes) so clearly BL is lying or she wore a bathing suit on social media so she can't be sexually harrassed etc. Rarely are the documents themselves and legal aspects being referenced and a lawsuit complaint in itself isn't the full picture - that is why there is still discovery and depositions to come.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What you heard, read online, think, and feel has zero connection to what the facts of the case are.

I don’t agree. This is not just entertainment weekly covering the story every few days in three paragraphs. We have seen hundreds and hundreds of pages of complaints, we’ve seen video from the movie, screenshots of texts. Yes, a lot of this is narrative and it does need to hold up in a court of law, but to say this is all just speculation is crazy. We all live in the real world here.

The movie clips you see isn't all that was filmed. Most scenes have multiple takes and are released very selectively. Just because you saw a few seconds of film doesn't actually mean you know all the facts and you have the evidence. That is my point. Just because one side shared texts that they felt supported their client and made the other look bad doesn't mean you have all the evidence and know the facts of the case. They left out many others they didn't want you to see. The complaints are biased and they only share some information (and intentionally omit others) and only share with with inflammatory and dramtic language and a bias that is defending their client and attacking the person being sued. It isn't giving you the full picture. Your post is my point exactly. Saying well I heard Blake is like xx or I read on Lipstick Alley that Justing is yyy - isn't facts. Saying well I think I know what happened isn't fact. Saying well I feel Justin would never or Blake would always isn't fact. Reading someone else's opinion and deciding that is what happened - doesn't actually mean that is what happened. Even if you heard it on Youtube or read it on a forum or whatever.

You do realize all the legal documents are public, right? You’re acting like people are just relying on Hollywood reporters or influencers.

I would say 99% of the people on here are relying pretty much entirely on secondary sources. Clearly most haven't read the documents in their entirety or understood what they say and don't say. Almost no one on here even understands what a legal claim of sexual harrassment is which is why half the post are about how one specific thing isn't sexual harrassment (in their eyes) so clearly BL is lying or she wore a bathing suit on social media so she can't be sexually harrassed etc. Rarely are the documents themselves and legal aspects being referenced and a lawsuit complaint in itself isn't the full picture - that is why there is still discovery and depositions to come.

no jury will say his behavior meets the standard. She should drop this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What you heard, read online, think, and feel has zero connection to what the facts of the case are.

I don’t agree. This is not just entertainment weekly covering the story every few days in three paragraphs. We have seen hundreds and hundreds of pages of complaints, we’ve seen video from the movie, screenshots of texts. Yes, a lot of this is narrative and it does need to hold up in a court of law, but to say this is all just speculation is crazy. We all live in the real world here.

So what is the evidence you have that Justin needed to know Blake's weight and that he had to obtain that information himself.

Obviously he says / she says isn't evidence. What evidence do you have?

What evidence do you have that he was asking about her weight so he could shame her into losing weight for the film? Seriously. She’s now released hundreds of pages, text, there’s nothing to show that this was an ongoing issue that he was trying to get her to lose weight. It was not brought up until the January 4 meeting, almost a year after it actually happened.

Further, I don’t believe Justin gave a crap about her weight for the film but I find it hilarious that we are acting as if this 2024 film would be the first where filmmakers were interested in a woman’s looks or weight. Again, I don’t think he was, but absolutely absurd that it has gotten this far.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What you heard, read online, think, and feel has zero connection to what the facts of the case are.

I don’t agree. This is not just entertainment weekly covering the story every few days in three paragraphs. We have seen hundreds and hundreds of pages of complaints, we’ve seen video from the movie, screenshots of texts. Yes, a lot of this is narrative and it does need to hold up in a court of law, but to say this is all just speculation is crazy. We all live in the real world here.

So what is the evidence you have that Justin needed to know Blake's weight and that he had to obtain that information himself.

Obviously he says / she says isn't evidence. What evidence do you have?

What evidence do you have that he was asking about her weight so he could shame her into losing weight for the film? Seriously. She’s now released hundreds of pages, text, there’s nothing to show that this was an ongoing issue that he was trying to get her to lose weight. It was not brought up until the January 4 meeting, almost a year after it actually happened.

Further, I don’t believe Justin gave a crap about her weight for the film but I find it hilarious that we are acting as if this 2024 film would be the first where filmmakers were interested in a woman’s looks or weight. Again, I don’t think he was, but absolutely absurd that it has gotten this far.

I have never said there is evidence he fat shamed her. And again, what you (or I) personally believe and think has zero to do what what actually happened.

[Anonymous]

OMG they just need to settle and give Justin Baldoni a big fat payment. I can't wait until they uncover the dirt on Ryan Reynolds

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What you heard, read online, think, and feel has zero connection to what the facts of the case are.

I don’t agree. This is not just entertainment weekly covering the story every few days in three paragraphs. We have seen hundreds and hundreds of pages of complaints, we’ve seen video from the movie, screenshots of texts. Yes, a lot of this is narrative and it does need to hold up in a court of law, but to say this is all just speculation is crazy. We all live in the real world here.

The movie clips you see isn't all that was filmed. Most scenes have multiple takes and are released very selectively. Just because you saw a few seconds of film doesn't actually mean you know all the facts and you have the evidence. That is my point. Just because one side shared texts that they felt supported their client and made the other look bad doesn't mean you have all the evidence and know the facts of the case. They left out many others they didn't want you to see. The complaints are biased and they only share some information (and intentionally omit others) and only share with with inflammatory and dramtic language and a bias that is defending their client and attacking the person being sued. It isn't giving you the full picture. Your post is my point exactly. Saying well I heard Blake is like xx or I read on Lipstick Alley that Justing is yyy - isn't facts. Saying well I think I know what happened isn't fact. Saying well I feel Justin would never or Blake would always isn't fact. Reading someone else's opinion and deciding that is what happened - doesn't actually mean that is what happened. Even if you heard it on Youtube or read it on a forum or whatever.

THANK YOU. All of this. People think they know because they've watched hours of YouTubers with no firsthand knowledge speculated, or read the complaints which, by definition, push a biased narrative.

[Anonymous]

I just want to note that the language in the Leslie Stone texts to RR probably read slightly weird because she was using talk-to-text. I do that all the time, including saying "Hi, it's [my name]" because you instinctively fall into voicemail mode when you do this. I had a friend joke that I had the most verbose texts ever and she thought it was so weird I would type out full words and not use shorthand, and I had to explain that I do a lot of my texts via voice in the car. Once you know this it makes sense because you use a lot of extra words and exposition when you speak that you wouldn't write in a text.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just want to note that the language in the Leslie Stone texts to RR probably read slightly weird because she was using talk-to-text. I do that all the time, including saying "Hi, it's [my name]" because you instinctively fall into voicemail mode when you do this. I had a friend joke that I had the most verbose texts ever and she thought it was so weird I would type out full words and not use shorthand, and I had to explain that I do a lot of my texts via voice in the car. Once you know this it makes sense because you use a lot of extra words and exposition when you speak that you wouldn't write in a text.

Come on, she would just say Bart. She wouldn’t have said brother-in-law. This is reaching.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just want to note that the language in the Leslie Stone texts to RR probably read slightly weird because she was using talk-to-text. I do that all the time, including saying "Hi, it's [my name]" because you instinctively fall into voicemail mode when you do this. I had a friend joke that I had the most verbose texts ever and she thought it was so weird I would type out full words and not use shorthand, and I had to explain that I do a lot of my texts via voice in the car. Once you know this it makes sense because you use a lot of extra words and exposition when you speak that you wouldn't write in a text.

It is completely normal and something many of us do all the time. I didn't read aything into those. Maybe it is an age thing but I often say hey its name even to close friends and I use relationships if I am talking about family as I don't know which of my friends remeber who various people are or not! I also don't use shorthand.

[Anonymous]

The entire weight discussion is the least interesting thing about this case. No one and I mean, not even Blake’s team thinks asking about weight is sexual harassment. They’re trying to paint a pattern of uncomfortable behavior blah blah blah, but when the rest of the evidence is so scant that falls apart too. The fact that people are insisting on bringing it up, means that they have nothing else.

Anyway, attention is now being paid to the fact that Jamiy Heath is a person of color. This ran under the radar for a long time because the focus was on Justin and even if you go back a couple of weeks ago, most people who were debating this case, thought that all the incidents were about Justin. I think this Jenny Slate complaint, being that it’s about Heath, has bought him more into the light and now the internet is starting to pick up on the fact that these two white women repeatedly made fairly stereotypical complaints about him.

I’d like to learn more about Jenny’s complaint, but it seems like his sanctity of motherhood comment just made her uncomfortable. Would love to know why. Did something just seem off? HMMMM.

And I don’t think it’s going to look good for Blake that she is giving into the oversexed stereotype. He just couldn’t tear his eyes away from her in that trailer! He just couldn’t keep from showing me p*rn on set! I’m really wondering why her team went that route, I think they probably just wanted to get the number of complaints up and thought it was all going to be focused on Justin and people weren’t going to take this deep a look. And, I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that most of her team is white and they just not thinking about this. I think the next few weeks they’re going to be going on quite a journey here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just want to note that the language in the Leslie Stone texts to RR probably read slightly weird because she was using talk-to-text. I do that all the time, including saying "Hi, it's [my name]" because you instinctively fall into voicemail mode when you do this. I had a friend joke that I had the most verbose texts ever and she thought it was so weird I would type out full words and not use shorthand, and I had to explain that I do a lot of my texts via voice in the car. Once you know this it makes sense because you use a lot of extra words and exposition when you speak that you wouldn't write in a text.

Come on, she would just say Bart. She wouldn’t have said brother-in-law. This is reaching.

No I think it's reaching to infer that text exchange was some kind of plot to create a "paper trail" for litigation they expected to be filed like 5 months later.

I can easily imagine myself saying brother-in-law in that scenario. They aren't best friends -- she works for them.

[Anonymous]

I want to say that all this time I thought Heath was a white man. I never looked him up until yesterday because I just couldn’t understand what BL’ was up to. She’s definitely gaming, but how and where does JB fit into this?

When I saw his pic on Reddit yesterday, this whole case made sense to me. I get what BL is trying to convince people of here. It’s sad and down right infuriating the way that she is trying to use the race/POC card here to claim SH. Several people on Reddit agreed. She’s doing some race baiting here about JB and Heath, and tying it to their faith.


And I can see how her flirty behavior created a lot of grey areas. Wow, she’s using the ‘they made me uncomfortable because they are dark’ race card. That’s what this is. Despicable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The entire weight discussion is the least interesting thing about this case. No one and I mean, not even Blake’s team thinks asking about weight is sexual harassment. They’re trying to paint a pattern of uncomfortable behavior blah blah blah, but when the rest of the evidence is so scant that falls apart too. The fact that people are insisting on bringing it up, means that they have nothing else.

Anyway, attention is now being paid to the fact that Jamiy Heath is a person of color. This ran under the radar for a long time because the focus was on Justin and even if you go back a couple of weeks ago, most people who were debating this case, thought that all the incidents were about Justin. I think this Jenny Slate complaint, being that it’s about Heath, has bought him more into the light and now the internet is starting to pick up on the fact that these two white women repeatedly made fairly stereotypical complaints about him.

I’d like to learn more about Jenny’s complaint, but it seems like his sanctity of motherhood comment just made her uncomfortable. Would love to know why. Did something just seem off? HMMMM.

And I don’t think it’s going to look good for Blake that she is giving into the oversexed stereotype. He just couldn’t tear his eyes away from her in that trailer! He just couldn’t keep from showing me p*rn on set! I’m really wondering why her team went that route, I think they probably just wanted to get the number of complaints up and thought it was all going to be focused on Justin and people weren’t going to take this deep a look. And, I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that most of her team is white and they just not thinking about this. I think the next few weeks they’re going to be going on quite a journey here.

I think it's impossible to evaluate the Jenny Slate allegation without actually knowing what he said. All THR said was that it had to do with motherhood and that it made Slate uncomfortable enough that she filed an HR report. You are assuming you know what he said but you don't, none of us do.

So maybe before you start speculating someone must be a racist for filing a single HR complaint on a set where other people also experienced inappropriate behavior, you could wait until you actually know what the HR complaints said and why Slate felt Heath's comment crossed a line.