FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:According to the website, materials will be posted the following business day so tomorrow (Tuesday) probably late afternoon


It's going to get VERY interesting if they propose to move people out of Chantilly and West Springfield but leave Langley untouched. Once again FCPS will have talked a good game about equity, and then turned around and screwed the middle class while favoring the wealthiest.


West Springfield is currently at 112% capacity and expected to go to 120% capacity by 2029-2030.

Chantilly is currently at 125% capacity if you don’t include modulars and expected to be at 118% capacity without modulars by 2029-2030.

Langley is currently at 94% capacity and expected to be at 96% capacity by 2029-2030.

How is there even a comparison? It makes sense to lower the numbers of students at over capacity schools. It doesn’t make sense to unnecessarily rezone kids from an under capacity school.


Sure it does, if kids live closer to a school that has even more extra capacity. Why should others pay to bus your kids longer distances than necessary? Also, your numbers for Langley don't include the additional kids from closer-in Tysons they're going to move to Langley.

And why should we bother moving kids out of "over capacity" schools - and capacity should take the modular seats that cost millions to install into account - now if those schools are expected to see declines in enrollment?

But let's see what they come up with today. If they propose to move kids out of Chantilly and West Springfield, with their compact boundaries, while leaving Langley with its far-flung boundaries untouched, it will be a political disaster for the Democrats in Sully and Springfield.


“Political disaster”? Literal LOL.


Sully and Springfield are already the two most conservative magisterial districts in Fairfax. Goodbye, Dixit and Anderson if they screw the middle class while giving the Langley rich another pass.


As someone who lives in WSHS area and whose kid could get moved, my anger about all this will not be impacted by what they do to Langley. I will be angry either way.


Not me. We live close to our current schools and they may rezone us anyway, so if they are going to continue busing Langley kids 10 miles while upending our kids lives in furtherance of unclear goals I will be doubly pissed.


Well, I think you’ve just outed yourself as a big ol hypocrite. It’s gotta be tough having that much cognitive dissonance.



Nothing hypocritical about it at all. If county-wide boundary changes are really needed like they're claiming they should go all in and not just look for soft targets while letting the rich people who'd make the biggest stink off the hook again.


Class warfare on your neighbors. Stay classy, hypocrite.


You don't know what hypocrisy means. I want the same thing for you as FCPS appears to want for me, and they have discretion to do so under their policy since cutting down on transportation times and costs gets just as much prominence as addressing a capacity deficit.

Plus you have money to hire the lawyers to challenge them. Not all of us do.

They know that, and that's why you get left out of boundary studies while others are not so fortunate.


To recap your view is if something bad has to happen to me i hope it happens to everyone else too (specifically Langley). You can use the transportation cost reasons all you want but that was debunked over and over. The cost to save 2-9 minutes each way for a few buses isn’t adding up to any amount of savings.

The problem with how big Herndon was built out it does not match capacity of Herndon MS. There is not space to move an entire elementary into that pyramid. Especially since it appears they are moving part of the very over crowded Coates to Herndon ES which feeds into Herndon Ms and Herndon HS


Or, stated differently, if some are to benefit from the advantages of county-wide redistricting, it would be unfair to deprive Langley families of that same opportunity.

In the case of students in western Great Falls, the shorter commutes to Herndon and potential transportation savings were never "debunked" simply because you chose to downplay them ad nauseam on this thread. You're confusing the frequency of your objections with the quality of your argument.

The mismatch of MS capacity with HS capacity isn't unique to Herndon. Even so, HMS is also projected to be well under capacity through 2029. And moving Coates kids who already are zoned to HMS/HHS to HES doesn't impact the enrollment at HMS or HHS. It only changes the ES assignment.

Look forward to your continuing to advocate on behalf of everyone who'd rather stay put. After all, if you can successfully advocate on Langley's behalf here, advocating on behalf of the rest of us who actually live close to our current schools ought to be a slam dunk.


You’re responding to a different poster. You also sound like a pretty awful person.


Oh, so you wouldn't advocate on anyone else's behalf but your own, but you take issues with others expecting Langley to be subject to the same scrutiny as other areas? Got it.



Well, if you can’t read well enough to understand my earlier post where I said I will continue to advocate for no boundary changes for anyone, then you are a lost cause. I couldn’t have stated it more clearly.

Good luck living your petty life.


Different poster here. I'm in WSHS area and our area appreciates your support.


Speak for yourself, not for our area.


Let me guess, you are the BRAC member who is on record being for boundary changes for others, but not for her own kids.


Nope. Once again, you people are not grasping that many support overdue boundary changes.


+1. New poster here.


Be careful what you wish for. Turns out that the school board is about to go nuclear with the boundaries.


Let’s see how well this ages. A few weeks ago the flood of “there will be a pause announced after spring break” posts did not age well.


Sure. Let’s put a pin in this. Make sure to follow up whether you are right or wrong, and I’ll do the same. Deal?

Now we just gotta wait for those night worm BRAC members to wake up.


Fair enough. How would define nuclear? It’s only fair to have an objective measure of whether the prediction (or informed hint) bore out.


Unanticipated boundary moves on a scale larger than many anticipated with tens of thousands of kids’ mental health being collateral damage. And in areas many felt were safe from boundary changes.


As someone who experienced a FCPS boundary change years ago, I don’t think there was any major damage to my mental health. Freshman year at a high school I hadn’t planned or wanted to attend sucked. Most of the kids knew each other from middle school but I only knew kids from my elementary school, and some of them had attended a different middle school. I felt like an outsider crashing a party without an invitation. But things did improve the next year. Getting involved in some activities was key.

Not saying they should change boundaries without a compelling reason, just that the rhetoric is overblown. A boundary change is inconvenient and disruptive, and parents can have some unhappy kids on their hands for a while, but it’s not going to send them off to a psych ward.


Well, by all means let’s extrapolate your rose-colored experience from years ago and jump to conclusions about how boundary changes would affect any kid in the county.


I didn’t think this was a rose-colored version of events. Although I did fine academically, socially I felt adrift for my entire freshman year and I think some others in my situation felt similarly.

I think you’re confirming, though that a boundary change might be more earth-shattering for some parents whose ideas of status are wrapped up with their kids attending a particular school than it ultimately would be for the kids.


Sorry, but you don't know any parents of teens if you think that the push back against rezoning is because parents are "wrapped up in status."

What a rude post.

Parents, nearly all of them, want what is best for their kids, period, and don't want their kids used as political pawns based on their grades, race and ethnic background, One Fairfax "equity", and their parents' jobs.


Those who say it is about "status" are wrong.
Just go ask the Navy people who were redistricted from Chantilly to Oakton during the South Lakes redraw.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/fairfax-county-candidate-assaulted-while-campaigning-drops-charges-after-apology/55950/

For those who don't know: Oakton has more "status" than Chantilly.
And, for the record, I know people who lived there then. They very much wanted to stay at Chantilly.


In that case, the inconvenience of a longer commute to Oakton outweighed Oakton's marginally higher status than Chantilly for some people. Yeah, one pissed-out woman attacked Kathy Smith but she was extreme.

In Langley's case, they embrace a longer commute than anyone else has to a neighborhood school because they perceive Herndon's status as much lower. The Forestville folks are at the edge of Great Falls and almost in Sterling. Reassign them to Herndon High and you might as well call the area North Herndon. Oh, the horror!



I find it telling that only the boundary change proponents disparage Herndon on this forum.


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Usually what time do they post online the presentation from yesterday?
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Anonymous wrote:According to the website, materials will be posted the following business day so tomorrow (Tuesday) probably late afternoon


It's going to get VERY interesting if they propose to move people out of Chantilly and West Springfield but leave Langley untouched. Once again FCPS will have talked a good game about equity, and then turned around and screwed the middle class while favoring the wealthiest.


West Springfield is currently at 112% capacity and expected to go to 120% capacity by 2029-2030.

Chantilly is currently at 125% capacity if you don’t include modulars and expected to be at 118% capacity without modulars by 2029-2030.

Langley is currently at 94% capacity and expected to be at 96% capacity by 2029-2030.

How is there even a comparison? It makes sense to lower the numbers of students at over capacity schools. It doesn’t make sense to unnecessarily rezone kids from an under capacity school.


Sure it does, if kids live closer to a school that has even more extra capacity. Why should others pay to bus your kids longer distances than necessary? Also, your numbers for Langley don't include the additional kids from closer-in Tysons they're going to move to Langley.

And why should we bother moving kids out of "over capacity" schools - and capacity should take the modular seats that cost millions to install into account - now if those schools are expected to see declines in enrollment?

But let's see what they come up with today. If they propose to move kids out of Chantilly and West Springfield, with their compact boundaries, while leaving Langley with its far-flung boundaries untouched, it will be a political disaster for the Democrats in Sully and Springfield.


“Political disaster”? Literal LOL.


Sully and Springfield are already the two most conservative magisterial districts in Fairfax. Goodbye, Dixit and Anderson if they screw the middle class while giving the Langley rich another pass.


As someone who lives in WSHS area and whose kid could get moved, my anger about all this will not be impacted by what they do to Langley. I will be angry either way.


Not me. We live close to our current schools and they may rezone us anyway, so if they are going to continue busing Langley kids 10 miles while upending our kids lives in furtherance of unclear goals I will be doubly pissed.


Well, I think you’ve just outed yourself as a big ol hypocrite. It’s gotta be tough having that much cognitive dissonance.



Nothing hypocritical about it at all. If county-wide boundary changes are really needed like they're claiming they should go all in and not just look for soft targets while letting the rich people who'd make the biggest stink off the hook again.


Class warfare on your neighbors. Stay classy, hypocrite.


You don't know what hypocrisy means. I want the same thing for you as FCPS appears to want for me, and they have discretion to do so under their policy since cutting down on transportation times and costs gets just as much prominence as addressing a capacity deficit.

Plus you have money to hire the lawyers to challenge them. Not all of us do.

They know that, and that's why you get left out of boundary studies while others are not so fortunate.


To recap your view is if something bad has to happen to me i hope it happens to everyone else too (specifically Langley). You can use the transportation cost reasons all you want but that was debunked over and over. The cost to save 2-9 minutes each way for a few buses isn’t adding up to any amount of savings.

The problem with how big Herndon was built out it does not match capacity of Herndon MS. There is not space to move an entire elementary into that pyramid. Especially since it appears they are moving part of the very over crowded Coates to Herndon ES which feeds into Herndon Ms and Herndon HS


Or, stated differently, if some are to benefit from the advantages of county-wide redistricting, it would be unfair to deprive Langley families of that same opportunity.

In the case of students in western Great Falls, the shorter commutes to Herndon and potential transportation savings were never "debunked" simply because you chose to downplay them ad nauseam on this thread. You're confusing the frequency of your objections with the quality of your argument.

The mismatch of MS capacity with HS capacity isn't unique to Herndon. Even so, HMS is also projected to be well under capacity through 2029. And moving Coates kids who already are zoned to HMS/HHS to HES doesn't impact the enrollment at HMS or HHS. It only changes the ES assignment.

Look forward to your continuing to advocate on behalf of everyone who'd rather stay put. After all, if you can successfully advocate on Langley's behalf here, advocating on behalf of the rest of us who actually live close to our current schools ought to be a slam dunk.


You’re responding to a different poster. You also sound like a pretty awful person.


Oh, so you wouldn't advocate on anyone else's behalf but your own, but you take issues with others expecting Langley to be subject to the same scrutiny as other areas? Got it.



Well, if you can’t read well enough to understand my earlier post where I said I will continue to advocate for no boundary changes for anyone, then you are a lost cause. I couldn’t have stated it more clearly.

Good luck living your petty life.


Different poster here. I'm in WSHS area and our area appreciates your support.


Speak for yourself, not for our area.


Let me guess, you are the BRAC member who is on record being for boundary changes for others, but not for her own kids.


Nope. Once again, you people are not grasping that many support overdue boundary changes.


+1. New poster here.


Be careful what you wish for. Turns out that the school board is about to go nuclear with the boundaries.


Let’s see how well this ages. A few weeks ago the flood of “there will be a pause announced after spring break” posts did not age well.


Sure. Let’s put a pin in this. Make sure to follow up whether you are right or wrong, and I’ll do the same. Deal?

Now we just gotta wait for those night worm BRAC members to wake up.


Fair enough. How would define nuclear? It’s only fair to have an objective measure of whether the prediction (or informed hint) bore out.


Unanticipated boundary moves on a scale larger than many anticipated with tens of thousands of kids’ mental health being collateral damage. And in areas many felt were safe from boundary changes.


As someone who experienced a FCPS boundary change years ago, I don’t think there was any major damage to my mental health. Freshman year at a high school I hadn’t planned or wanted to attend sucked. Most of the kids knew each other from middle school but I only knew kids from my elementary school, and some of them had attended a different middle school. I felt like an outsider crashing a party without an invitation. But things did improve the next year. Getting involved in some activities was key.

Not saying they should change boundaries without a compelling reason, just that the rhetoric is overblown. A boundary change is inconvenient and disruptive, and parents can have some unhappy kids on their hands for a while, but it’s not going to send them off to a psych ward.


Well, by all means let’s extrapolate your rose-colored experience from years ago and jump to conclusions about how boundary changes would affect any kid in the county.


I didn’t think this was a rose-colored version of events. Although I did fine academically, socially I felt adrift for my entire freshman year and I think some others in my situation felt similarly.

I think you’re confirming, though that a boundary change might be more earth-shattering for some parents whose ideas of status are wrapped up with their kids attending a particular school than it ultimately would be for the kids.


Sorry, but you don't know any parents of teens if you think that the push back against rezoning is because parents are "wrapped up in status."

What a rude post.

Parents, nearly all of them, want what is best for their kids, period, and don't want their kids used as political pawns based on their grades, race and ethnic background, One Fairfax "equity", and their parents' jobs.


Those who say it is about "status" are wrong.
Just go ask the Navy people who were redistricted from Chantilly to Oakton during the South Lakes redraw.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/fairfax-county-candidate-assaulted-while-campaigning-drops-charges-after-apology/55950/

For those who don't know: Oakton has more "status" than Chantilly.
And, for the record, I know people who lived there then. They very much wanted to stay at Chantilly.


In that case, the inconvenience of a longer commute to Oakton outweighed Oakton's marginally higher status than Chantilly for some people. Yeah, one pissed-out woman attacked Kathy Smith but she was extreme.

In Langley's case, they embrace a longer commute than anyone else has to a neighborhood school because they perceive Herndon's status as much lower. The Forestville folks are at the edge of Great Falls and almost in Sterling. Reassign them to Herndon High and you might as well call the area North Herndon. Oh, the horror!



Agree. This was extreme. But, believe me, it was not one p***off person. Neighborhoods were pitted against each other. SB members attended coffees, etc. People felt they were lied to about decisions.
And, at that time, Oakton was not considered "marginally" better. It definitely had more status.

But, Chantilly has "community." People do not want to give that up.
Isn't that what you want? Community support?

Taking people who do not want to move when there does not appear to be a valid reason, is troubling. If the students pupil placing out of Herndon returned, this would not be needed.
Shouldn't that be addressed first?
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It was in an email around 5 pm last week.
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What are the chances we could be moved from Chantilly HS?? I currently have a freshman there. Anyone have a map of changes there?
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Anonymous wrote:Usually what time do they post online the presentation from yesterday?
late afternoon. You can find the meeting slides at this link when they become available : https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/maps/2024-2026-boundary-review/superintendents-boundary-review-advisory-committee
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Anonymous wrote:What are the chances we could be moved from Chantilly HS?? I currently have a freshman there. Anyone have a map of changes there?


You need to wait and see what may have been proposed by Thru (the outside consultants) last night. That will become available later today.

Without knowing more, the chances are high they'll propose to move some kids out of Chantilly since it's over 105% capacity.
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Anonymous wrote:What are the chances we could be moved from Chantilly HS?? I currently have a freshman there. Anyone have a map of changes there?


You need to wait and see what may have been proposed by Thru (the outside consultants) last night. That will become available later today.

Without knowing more, the chances are high they'll propose to move some kids out of Chantilly since it's over 105% capacity.


We are in walking distance. Would that make a difference?
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Anonymous wrote:What are the chances we could be moved from Chantilly HS?? I currently have a freshman there. Anyone have a map of changes there?


You need to wait and see what may have been proposed by Thru (the outside consultants) last night. That will become available later today.

Without knowing more, the chances are high they'll propose to move some kids out of Chantilly since it's over 105% capacity.


We are in walking distance. Would that make a difference?


Ultimately, yes, but that doesn't mean Thru might not propose in the first instance to reassign walkers to other schools. Most of what they've done so far is just play around with SPAs (School Planning Areas) to achieve a specific goal, such as eliminating an attendance island or certain split feeders. If they viewed their most recent assignment as just coming up with potential changes that would get every school below 105% capacity, including modular seats, it's possible they've developed scenarios that move walkers out of Chantilly. But, again, best to wait and see, and then comment.
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It’s rather ominous that we haven’t heard anything from BRAC members…
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Anonymous wrote:It’s rather ominous that we haven’t heard anything from BRAC members…


Have we before?
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Anonymous wrote:It’s rather ominous that we haven’t heard anything from BRAC members…


I would take the opposite view. There also isn't anything on the FairFACTS FB page. If something big had happened, someone would likely have said something by now.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s rather ominous that we haven’t heard anything from BRAC members…


Seems to me they've all been careful not to front run the contents of the Thru slides before they were made generally available to the public. Even the FairFACTS Matters representatives have only commented after they were published.
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Anonymous wrote:According to the website, materials will be posted the following business day so tomorrow (Tuesday) probably late afternoon


It's going to get VERY interesting if they propose to move people out of Chantilly and West Springfield but leave Langley untouched. Once again FCPS will have talked a good game about equity, and then turned around and screwed the middle class while favoring the wealthiest.


West Springfield is currently at 112% capacity and expected to go to 120% capacity by 2029-2030.

Chantilly is currently at 125% capacity if you don’t include modulars and expected to be at 118% capacity without modulars by 2029-2030.

Langley is currently at 94% capacity and expected to be at 96% capacity by 2029-2030.

How is there even a comparison? It makes sense to lower the numbers of students at over capacity schools. It doesn’t make sense to unnecessarily rezone kids from an under capacity school.


Sure it does, if kids live closer to a school that has even more extra capacity. Why should others pay to bus your kids longer distances than necessary? Also, your numbers for Langley don't include the additional kids from closer-in Tysons they're going to move to Langley.

And why should we bother moving kids out of "over capacity" schools - and capacity should take the modular seats that cost millions to install into account - now if those schools are expected to see declines in enrollment?

But let's see what they come up with today. If they propose to move kids out of Chantilly and West Springfield, with their compact boundaries, while leaving Langley with its far-flung boundaries untouched, it will be a political disaster for the Democrats in Sully and Springfield.


“Political disaster”? Literal LOL.


Sully and Springfield are already the two most conservative magisterial districts in Fairfax. Goodbye, Dixit and Anderson if they screw the middle class while giving the Langley rich another pass.


As someone who lives in WSHS area and whose kid could get moved, my anger about all this will not be impacted by what they do to Langley. I will be angry either way.


Not me. We live close to our current schools and they may rezone us anyway, so if they are going to continue busing Langley kids 10 miles while upending our kids lives in furtherance of unclear goals I will be doubly pissed.


Well, I think you’ve just outed yourself as a big ol hypocrite. It’s gotta be tough having that much cognitive dissonance.



Nothing hypocritical about it at all. If county-wide boundary changes are really needed like they're claiming they should go all in and not just look for soft targets while letting the rich people who'd make the biggest stink off the hook again.


Class warfare on your neighbors. Stay classy, hypocrite.


You don't know what hypocrisy means. I want the same thing for you as FCPS appears to want for me, and they have discretion to do so under their policy since cutting down on transportation times and costs gets just as much prominence as addressing a capacity deficit.

Plus you have money to hire the lawyers to challenge them. Not all of us do.

They know that, and that's why you get left out of boundary studies while others are not so fortunate.


To recap your view is if something bad has to happen to me i hope it happens to everyone else too (specifically Langley). You can use the transportation cost reasons all you want but that was debunked over and over. The cost to save 2-9 minutes each way for a few buses isn’t adding up to any amount of savings.

The problem with how big Herndon was built out it does not match capacity of Herndon MS. There is not space to move an entire elementary into that pyramid. Especially since it appears they are moving part of the very over crowded Coates to Herndon ES which feeds into Herndon Ms and Herndon HS


Or, stated differently, if some are to benefit from the advantages of county-wide redistricting, it would be unfair to deprive Langley families of that same opportunity.

In the case of students in western Great Falls, the shorter commutes to Herndon and potential transportation savings were never "debunked" simply because you chose to downplay them ad nauseam on this thread. You're confusing the frequency of your objections with the quality of your argument.

The mismatch of MS capacity with HS capacity isn't unique to Herndon. Even so, HMS is also projected to be well under capacity through 2029. And moving Coates kids who already are zoned to HMS/HHS to HES doesn't impact the enrollment at HMS or HHS. It only changes the ES assignment.

Look forward to your continuing to advocate on behalf of everyone who'd rather stay put. After all, if you can successfully advocate on Langley's behalf here, advocating on behalf of the rest of us who actually live close to our current schools ought to be a slam dunk.


You’re responding to a different poster. You also sound like a pretty awful person.


Oh, so you wouldn't advocate on anyone else's behalf but your own, but you take issues with others expecting Langley to be subject to the same scrutiny as other areas? Got it.



Well, if you can’t read well enough to understand my earlier post where I said I will continue to advocate for no boundary changes for anyone, then you are a lost cause. I couldn’t have stated it more clearly.

Good luck living your petty life.


Different poster here. I'm in WSHS area and our area appreciates your support.


Speak for yourself, not for our area.


Let me guess, you are the BRAC member who is on record being for boundary changes for others, but not for her own kids.


Nope. Once again, you people are not grasping that many support overdue boundary changes.


+1. New poster here.


Be careful what you wish for. Turns out that the school board is about to go nuclear with the boundaries.


Let’s see how well this ages. A few weeks ago the flood of “there will be a pause announced after spring break” posts did not age well.


Sure. Let’s put a pin in this. Make sure to follow up whether you are right or wrong, and I’ll do the same. Deal?

Now we just gotta wait for those night worm BRAC members to wake up.


Fair enough. How would define nuclear? It’s only fair to have an objective measure of whether the prediction (or informed hint) bore out.


Unanticipated boundary moves on a scale larger than many anticipated with tens of thousands of kids’ mental health being collateral damage. And in areas many felt were safe from boundary changes.


As someone who experienced a FCPS boundary change years ago, I don’t think there was any major damage to my mental health. Freshman year at a high school I hadn’t planned or wanted to attend sucked. Most of the kids knew each other from middle school but I only knew kids from my elementary school, and some of them had attended a different middle school. I felt like an outsider crashing a party without an invitation. But things did improve the next year. Getting involved in some activities was key.

Not saying they should change boundaries without a compelling reason, just that the rhetoric is overblown. A boundary change is inconvenient and disruptive, and parents can have some unhappy kids on their hands for a while, but it’s not going to send them off to a psych ward.


thank you and this is honestly what going to high school is like for Crossfield and Navy kids that end up at Oakton - they don't know anyone there. So it's really no different from what FCPS is already doing to students at our schools - which apparently it seems like they have absolutely no intent to fix.
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Anonymous wrote:According to the website, materials will be posted the following business day so tomorrow (Tuesday) probably late afternoon


It's going to get VERY interesting if they propose to move people out of Chantilly and West Springfield but leave Langley untouched. Once again FCPS will have talked a good game about equity, and then turned around and screwed the middle class while favoring the wealthiest.


West Springfield is currently at 112% capacity and expected to go to 120% capacity by 2029-2030.

Chantilly is currently at 125% capacity if you don’t include modulars and expected to be at 118% capacity without modulars by 2029-2030.

Langley is currently at 94% capacity and expected to be at 96% capacity by 2029-2030.

How is there even a comparison? It makes sense to lower the numbers of students at over capacity schools. It doesn’t make sense to unnecessarily rezone kids from an under capacity school.


Sure it does, if kids live closer to a school that has even more extra capacity. Why should others pay to bus your kids longer distances than necessary? Also, your numbers for Langley don't include the additional kids from closer-in Tysons they're going to move to Langley.

And why should we bother moving kids out of "over capacity" schools - and capacity should take the modular seats that cost millions to install into account - now if those schools are expected to see declines in enrollment?

But let's see what they come up with today. If they propose to move kids out of Chantilly and West Springfield, with their compact boundaries, while leaving Langley with its far-flung boundaries untouched, it will be a political disaster for the Democrats in Sully and Springfield.


“Political disaster”? Literal LOL.


Sully and Springfield are already the two most conservative magisterial districts in Fairfax. Goodbye, Dixit and Anderson if they screw the middle class while giving the Langley rich another pass.


As someone who lives in WSHS area and whose kid could get moved, my anger about all this will not be impacted by what they do to Langley. I will be angry either way.


Not me. We live close to our current schools and they may rezone us anyway, so if they are going to continue busing Langley kids 10 miles while upending our kids lives in furtherance of unclear goals I will be doubly pissed.


Well, I think you’ve just outed yourself as a big ol hypocrite. It’s gotta be tough having that much cognitive dissonance.



Nothing hypocritical about it at all. If county-wide boundary changes are really needed like they're claiming they should go all in and not just look for soft targets while letting the rich people who'd make the biggest stink off the hook again.


Class warfare on your neighbors. Stay classy, hypocrite.


You don't know what hypocrisy means. I want the same thing for you as FCPS appears to want for me, and they have discretion to do so under their policy since cutting down on transportation times and costs gets just as much prominence as addressing a capacity deficit.

Plus you have money to hire the lawyers to challenge them. Not all of us do.

They know that, and that's why you get left out of boundary studies while others are not so fortunate.


To recap your view is if something bad has to happen to me i hope it happens to everyone else too (specifically Langley). You can use the transportation cost reasons all you want but that was debunked over and over. The cost to save 2-9 minutes each way for a few buses isn’t adding up to any amount of savings.

The problem with how big Herndon was built out it does not match capacity of Herndon MS. There is not space to move an entire elementary into that pyramid. Especially since it appears they are moving part of the very over crowded Coates to Herndon ES which feeds into Herndon Ms and Herndon HS


Or, stated differently, if some are to benefit from the advantages of county-wide redistricting, it would be unfair to deprive Langley families of that same opportunity.

In the case of students in western Great Falls, the shorter commutes to Herndon and potential transportation savings were never "debunked" simply because you chose to downplay them ad nauseam on this thread. You're confusing the frequency of your objections with the quality of your argument.

The mismatch of MS capacity with HS capacity isn't unique to Herndon. Even so, HMS is also projected to be well under capacity through 2029. And moving Coates kids who already are zoned to HMS/HHS to HES doesn't impact the enrollment at HMS or HHS. It only changes the ES assignment.

Look forward to your continuing to advocate on behalf of everyone who'd rather stay put. After all, if you can successfully advocate on Langley's behalf here, advocating on behalf of the rest of us who actually live close to our current schools ought to be a slam dunk.


You’re responding to a different poster. You also sound like a pretty awful person.


Oh, so you wouldn't advocate on anyone else's behalf but your own, but you take issues with others expecting Langley to be subject to the same scrutiny as other areas? Got it.



Well, if you can’t read well enough to understand my earlier post where I said I will continue to advocate for no boundary changes for anyone, then you are a lost cause. I couldn’t have stated it more clearly.

Good luck living your petty life.


Different poster here. I'm in WSHS area and our area appreciates your support.


Speak for yourself, not for our area.


Let me guess, you are the BRAC member who is on record being for boundary changes for others, but not for her own kids.


Nope. Once again, you people are not grasping that many support overdue boundary changes.


+1. New poster here.


Be careful what you wish for. Turns out that the school board is about to go nuclear with the boundaries.


Let’s see how well this ages. A few weeks ago the flood of “there will be a pause announced after spring break” posts did not age well.


Sure. Let’s put a pin in this. Make sure to follow up whether you are right or wrong, and I’ll do the same. Deal?

Now we just gotta wait for those night worm BRAC members to wake up.


Fair enough. How would define nuclear? It’s only fair to have an objective measure of whether the prediction (or informed hint) bore out.


Unanticipated boundary moves on a scale larger than many anticipated with tens of thousands of kids’ mental health being collateral damage. And in areas many felt were safe from boundary changes.


As someone who experienced a FCPS boundary change years ago, I don’t think there was any major damage to my mental health. Freshman year at a high school I hadn’t planned or wanted to attend sucked. Most of the kids knew each other from middle school but I only knew kids from my elementary school, and some of them had attended a different middle school. I felt like an outsider crashing a party without an invitation. But things did improve the next year. Getting involved in some activities was key.

Not saying they should change boundaries without a compelling reason, just that the rhetoric is overblown. A boundary change is inconvenient and disruptive, and parents can have some unhappy kids on their hands for a while, but it’s not going to send them off to a psych ward.


Well, by all means let’s extrapolate your rose-colored experience from years ago and jump to conclusions about how boundary changes would affect any kid in the county.


What exactly do you think is going to happen to your child, PP? I mean seriously. Please explain.
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