Gaza War, Part 3

[Anonymous]

Charming.

Almost as imaginative as the concept of Present Absentees.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw, that also decreases the number of civilians killed. So maybe genocide might be a reach.

"Genocide" has always been a reach. But then again, it's not a reach to people who deny that 6 million Jews were systematically and deliberately killed by the Nazis.

Yes, the Holocaust happened unfortunately, but almost everyone responsible for this atrocity is dead today. Hopefully, as Americans anyway, we have learned from this and move on and try and realize that most American nonJews born after WWII, in my experience anyway, harbor no hatred or prejudice toward Jews, they’re indifferent, they don’t even realize who is jewish or not. It’s not a topic of conversation for most American non jewish people, it’s a nonissue. I have jewish friends who I didn’t even reaize were jewish initially, they live productive comfortable lives here in the US.

In case you missed it, there has been a huge increase in antisemitic incidents in the U.S.

There's a huge increase in all kinds of -isms in the US - Jews aren't special in the hatred they get.

There's an increase in pro-Palestinian sentiment and a backlash against Zionism. Neither of these is necessarily antisemitic in the sense of being anti-Jewish, but they are widely interpreted as the same thing. Sadly, there are increases in genuine antisemitic and Islamophobic incidents. Regarding the latter, there was the case of the 6yo Muslim boy stabbed to death and his mother injured, and the shooting of three Muslim students, one of whom is now paralyzed.

Was this in the US?

Yes. The 6yo Palestinian American boy was stabbed 26 times last October by his landlord in Plainfield, IL. He died. His mother was stabbed a dozen times and survived. Detectives determined the attack was predicated on their being Muslim. Three college students (one each from Haverford, Trinity, and Brown) of Palestinian descent were shot in Vermont last November. They were wearing keffiyeh scarves at the time and conversing in both English and Arabic. The 20yo student from Brown is now paralyzed from the chest down. American Muslims say the spike in Islamophobic incidents since October 7 is reminiscent of the post-9/11 period.

Is that anything to compare to the living hell Jewish people in the US are currently having to endure as they watch posters of their beloved hostages defaced and defiles by brutal, heartless pro-Hamas terrorists? As they hear the crazy left calling for their genocide through ceasefire? As they are persecuted in the halls of their universities as the leaders of their schools go in front of congress to spew hate towards Jews to rapturous applause?

Do not try to claim anti-Muslim sentiment is even slightly comparable to the anti-semi Tim’s faced by the Jewish people. Period.

Are you trying to be ironic? Yes, being stabbed to death when you are six years old or shot or shot and paralyzed when you're 20 is a heck of a lot worse than seeing pictures of hostages defaced. Given the choice, I think most of us would prefer to watch an image being defiled than to be stabbed to death or shot and paralyzed. I mean, that's a no-brainer.

Also, calls for a ceasefire are NOT calls for Jewish genocide. They are calls to PREVENT Palestinian genocide. Gaza is virtually uninhabitable, Palestinian children are being butchered in their thousands, and starvation and disease are killing innocent Palestinians. Why would anyone with an ounce of humanity NOT call for a ceasefire?

I also don't see anyone "spewing hate" towards Jews. The criticism is partly of Zionism, but more specifically of Israel's absolutely barbaric behavior in Gaza and in the West Bank.

Only a pathological narcissist with a master race complex would think the incidents you describe are worse than the brutal attacks I described. Have you absolutely no empathy or compassion for Palestinians or people of Palestinian descent? I am frankly shocked and disgusted by your Islamophobia and your astonishingly jaw-dropping sense of entitlement.

The show stopper detail you’re not even mentioning is just how MANY people have been brainwashed into a sense of entitlement and a guiding principle of contempt for those who are not in the tribe. It’s definitely not all, for which we should all be thankful. But every last one haunting these threads with persistent, unconditional, and throaty defense of Israel falls into that group, unfortunately.

To them, tribe over everything - even humanity.

Yes, this is true. It will be studied for decades to come, just as the culture that produced Nazism has been studied by psychologists and sociologists. A culture of aggrievement, victimhood, and the cultural narcissism of belonging to "the master race" provided fertile soil for the growth of Nazism and the cult of racial superiority in Germany. It fueled the goal of ruthlessly promoting Germany over other nations (Deutchland ueber Alles) and the sense of entitlement that allowed the Nazis to take other people's land as "Lebensraum." It would be very sad if history were to repeat itself.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel really, really, really hates Al-Jazeera's bureau chief in Gaza Wael al-Dahdouh.

On October 26, they killed his wife Amna, his 15-year old son Mahmoud, his 7-year old daughter Sham, and his 18-month grandson Adam. They were killed in a "safe location" where IDF instructed them to evacuate from the north.

In December, IDF wounded him in a drone strike and killed his cameraman Samer Abu Daqqa, who was left to bleed out in the street while IDF shooters prevented medical help from reaching him.

Today in southern Gaza they killed his oldest son Hamza, an Al-Jazeera's network journalist and cameraman. Another freelance journalist Mustafa Thuraya was killed with him.

I don't know how much grief one person can take and still stand straight.

The IDF is incredibly vindictive and vicious. Like every autocratic regime, it deliberately targets voices who speak out against it. It tracks down the people it hates and either murders them or their families or both. Of course, it is going after this poor man. Israel is an evil regime. When the obviously fake story about "a baby baked in an oven" came out, a Palestinian writer, Refaat Alareer, joked about baking powder being used. This may not have been in the best taste, but he was obviously thinking of baking a baby as a creative act in the same way as baking a cake, and the story of the baby in an oven was not true. However, this made him a marked man. The IDF called him as he was taking refuge in an UNRWA school in Gaza and told him it was going to kill him. Not wanting the thousands of other refugees in the building to be killed, he left. The IDF tracked him to his sister's apartment and bombed it, killing him, his sister, and his sister's four children. This was a calculated, brutal atrocity.

Didn't this "writer" also freelance as a recruiter for Hamas?

No, but he was openly critical of Israel, and that's what got him killed by a country that does not respect international law.

Openly critical of Israel, and covertly recruiting for Israel's enemy. It tracks.

So every open critic of Israel is "covertly recruiting for Israel's enemy" and deserves to die? This is an incredibly fascistic belief. We should all have freedom of expression. Nobody wants to live in a world where we kill those we disagree with.

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The violence against Muslims in this country that was aforementioned… The 6 year old, his mother, and the 3 college friends is horrible. None of these acts were perpetrated by Jews, btw.

But please don’t say there has been no increase in antisemitism. The ugliness is everywhere. Including in Yonkers NY where a Jewish HS ( The Leffell School) basketball team was playing Roosevelt HS.

They had to stop the game because the players on Roosevelt’s team were roughing them up and playing violently. They also shouted antisemitic slurs.

It seems that one of the slurs they shouted was “Free Palestine” during the game, while another one was “I’m pro-Hamas you f%#^*ing Jew”. Let’s just see if they suffer any consequences.

https://twitter.com/tararosenblum/status/1744019690412777848?s=46&t=XhMk6KgBaubAd8DNh_wEeQ

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Anonymous wrote:Charming.

Almost as imaginative as the concept of Present Absentees.

So what? The charge of “genocide” is absurd. To be sure, Israel may file a counter claim against Hamas.

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+ "freelance journalism" is a great cover for terrorism.

You are a deranged, despicable human being, one wholly unworthy of walking the earth with the rest of humanity.

Touched a nerve, didn't I?

Not really, just wanted to ensure you are reminded early and often why everyone else is either indifferent to your suffering or despises your very existence.

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Anonymous wrote:The violence against Muslims in this country that was aforementioned… The 6 year old, his mother, and the 3 college friends is horrible. None of these acts were perpetrated by Jews, btw.

But please don’t say there has been no increase in antisemitism. The ugliness is everywhere. Including in Yonkers NY where a Jewish HS ( The Leffell School) basketball team was playing Roosevelt HS.

They had to stop the game because the players on Roosevelt’s team were roughing them up and playing violently. They also shouted antisemitic slurs.

It seems that one of the slurs they shouted was “Free Palestine” during the game, while another one was “I’m pro-Hamas you f%#^*ing Jew”. Let’s just see if they suffer any consequences.

https://twitter.com/tararosenblum/status/1744019690412777848?s=46&t=XhMk6KgBaubAd8DNh_wEeQ

Maybe there should be a criminal investigation — hate crime? — into this matter.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel really, really, really hates Al-Jazeera's bureau chief in Gaza Wael al-Dahdouh.

On October 26, they killed his wife Amna, his 15-year old son Mahmoud, his 7-year old daughter Sham, and his 18-month grandson Adam. They were killed in a "safe location" where IDF instructed them to evacuate from the north.

In December, IDF wounded him in a drone strike and killed his cameraman Samer Abu Daqqa, who was left to bleed out in the street while IDF shooters prevented medical help from reaching him.

Today in southern Gaza they killed his oldest son Hamza, an Al-Jazeera's network journalist and cameraman. Another freelance journalist Mustafa Thuraya was killed with him.

I don't know how much grief one person can take and still stand straight.

The IDF is incredibly vindictive and vicious. Like every autocratic regime, it deliberately targets voices who speak out against it. It tracks down the people it hates and either murders them or their families or both. Of course, it is going after this poor man. Israel is an evil regime. When the obviously fake story about "a baby baked in an oven" came out, a Palestinian writer, Refaat Alareer, joked about baking powder being used. This may not have been in the best taste, but he was obviously thinking of baking a baby as a creative act in the same way as baking a cake, and the story of the baby in an oven was not true. However, this made him a marked man. The IDF called him as he was taking refuge in an UNRWA school in Gaza and told him it was going to kill him. Not wanting the thousands of other refugees in the building to be killed, he left. The IDF tracked him to his sister's apartment and bombed it, killing him, his sister, and his sister's four children. This was a calculated, brutal atrocity.

Citation?

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Anonymous wrote:The violence against Muslims in this country that was aforementioned… The 6 year old, his mother, and the 3 college friends is horrible. None of these acts were perpetrated by Jews, btw.

But please don’t say there has been no increase in antisemitism. The ugliness is everywhere. Including in Yonkers NY where a Jewish HS ( The Leffell School) basketball team was playing Roosevelt HS.

They had to stop the game because the players on Roosevelt’s team were roughing them up and playing violently. They also shouted antisemitic slurs.

It seems that one of the slurs they shouted was “Free Palestine” during the game, while another one was “I’m pro-Hamas you f%#^*ing Jew”. Let’s just see if they suffer any consequences.

https://twitter.com/tararosenblum/status/1744019690412777848?s=46&t=XhMk6KgBaubAd8DNh_wEeQ

Ok while abhorrent, those are words opposed to murder or attempted murder, it’s all disgusting. But while words having meaning and can cause pain, they’re words. These are still children, what consequences should those basketball players face? Should we banish them from society? Yes, that will surely help us long term. Yes, let’s banish or rid them from society for the wrong words they speak. Should they be imprisoned for life? What would be a suitable punishment? Not being snarky i am genuinely curious what punishment these kids should face.

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Anonymous wrote:The violence against Muslims in this country that was aforementioned… The 6 year old, his mother, and the 3 college friends is horrible. None of these acts were perpetrated by Jews, btw.

But please don’t say there has been no increase in antisemitism. The ugliness is everywhere. Including in Yonkers NY where a Jewish HS ( The Leffell School) basketball team was playing Roosevelt HS.

They had to stop the game because the players on Roosevelt’s team were roughing them up and playing violently. They also shouted antisemitic slurs.

It seems that one of the slurs they shouted was “Free Palestine” during the game, while another one was “I’m pro-Hamas you f%#^*ing Jew”. Let’s just see if they suffer any consequences.

https://twitter.com/tararosenblum/status/1744019690412777848?s=46&t=XhMk6KgBaubAd8DNh_wEeQ

Ok while abhorrent, those are words opposed to murder or attempted murder, it’s all disgusting. But while words having meaning and can cause pain, they’re words. These are still children, what consequences should those basketball players face? Should we banish them from society? Yes, that will surely help us long term. Yes, let’s banish or rid them from society for the wrong words they speak. Should they be imprisoned for life? What would be a suitable punishment? Not being snarky i am genuinely curious what punishment these kids should face.

DP. Anyone who has played a sport knows that there are rules of conduct that must be followed. Similarly, schools have conduct rules. So if this happened, it would be a school and/or team and/or league disciplinary matter. The alleged comment about Hamas is particularly chilling. Substitute any other minority group for “Jew” and, well, you know the calls for discipline would be echoing far and wide.

[Anonymous]

Reports of a “blast” regarding 16 Iranian ships.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The violence against Muslims in this country that was aforementioned… The 6 year old, his mother, and the 3 college friends is horrible. None of these acts were perpetrated by Jews, btw.

But please don’t say there has been no increase in antisemitism. The ugliness is everywhere. Including in Yonkers NY where a Jewish HS ( The Leffell School) basketball team was playing Roosevelt HS.

They had to stop the game because the players on Roosevelt’s team were roughing them up and playing violently. They also shouted antisemitic slurs.

It seems that one of the slurs they shouted was “Free Palestine” during the game, while another one was “I’m pro-Hamas you f%#^*ing Jew”. Let’s just see if they suffer any consequences.

https://twitter.com/tararosenblum/status/1744019690412777848?s=46&t=XhMk6KgBaubAd8DNh_wEeQ

Ok while abhorrent, those are words opposed to murder or attempted murder, it’s all disgusting. But while words having meaning and can cause pain, they’re words. These are still children, what consequences should those basketball players face? Should we banish them from society? Yes, that will surely help us long term. Yes, let’s banish or rid them from society for the wrong words they speak. Should they be imprisoned for life? What would be a suitable punishment? Not being snarky i am genuinely curious what punishment these kids should face.

DP. Anyone who has played a sport knows that there are rules of conduct that must be followed. Similarly, schools have conduct rules. So if this happened, it would be a school and/or team and/or league disciplinary matter. The alleged comment about Hamas is particularly chilling. Substitute any other minority group for “Jew” and, well, you know the calls for discipline would be echoing far and wide.

So I have seen this involving minority groups. The perpetrators were banned from playing the sport for the school team ever again.

[Anonymous]

Would love to know if the tables were turned and the Leffell students called the black team a f$&@“ing racial slur. And said “ I’m pro- Derek Chauvin. There would be marching in the streets, you bigot. Would you say “ so what? They’re only words”?

Look in the mirror before you say stupid things. That’s the problem in our world. So many morons don’t do this.

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Hey, don’t forget about Palestinian Islamic Jihad, folks. IDF is finding and neutralizing their tunnels too. I admit, I don’t quite get their angle—is it world domination tied more directly to religious fanatacism?

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Do American jewish children ever judge other people who look different than them or ever make off color remarks? Because I know despite what I teach my child at home they tend to say very offensive things sometimes much to my chagrin.