Gaza War, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing against Jewish Americans at all, I just fail to see where their issues take precedence over any other oppressed American.

I would also point out for many, many, many Jewish Americans “their issue” here is actually stopping the U.S. enabling this bloodbath. That’s why rabbis keep getting arrested at these protests. They are people of conscience and I hope when this is in the rear view mirror people take a moment to reflect on the moral courage it took.

People who pretend to be Jewish, but do not fully and unconditionally support Israel, are not Jewish.

Those so-called “Rabbis” may use the word, but real Jews know they are little more then anti-Semitic pro-Hamas terrorists.

Wow, so Jews are now being antisemitic against other Jews. This is a new low.

Yahweh provided upon the Jewish people a bountiful and eternal land of prosperity and of security, the lands of Israel and the gleaming city of Jerusalem, to provide them with a homeland of solely their own.

If one does not believe and defend the land granted to one’s own people by God himself, were they ever truly Jewish?

(The answer is no)

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing against Jewish Americans at all, I just fail to see where their issues take precedence over any other oppressed American.

I would also point out for many, many, many Jewish Americans “their issue” here is actually stopping the U.S. enabling this bloodbath. That’s why rabbis keep getting arrested at these protests. They are people of conscience and I hope when this is in the rear view mirror people take a moment to reflect on the moral courage it took.

People who pretend to be Jewish, but do not fully and unconditionally support Israel, are not Jewish.

Those so-called “Rabbis” may use the word, but real Jews know they are little more then anti-Semitic pro-Hamas terrorists.

Wow, so Jews are now being antisemitic against other Jews. This is a new low.

Yahweh provided upon the Jewish people a bountiful and eternal land of prosperity and of security, the lands of Israel and the gleaming city of Jerusalem, to provide them with a homeland of solely their own.

If one does not believe and defend the land granted to one’s own people by God himself, were they ever truly Jewish?

(The answer is no)

Not all Jews believe this. Many Jews think the stories of "God's covenant with Abraham" and "the Promised Land" are fables, just as many Jews, Christians, and Muslims don't believe in Adam and Eve or that Earth is 4,000 years old. Some Christians think the Book of Revelations was written by a schizophrenic and was one, long, delusional rant, but that doesn't mean they're not Christians. One can follow a religion without being a fundamentalist literalist. One can follow any of the three major monotheistic traditions and believe that Adam, Eve, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Moses are fictional literary characters who never existed. Similarly, very few "People of the Book" today would believe that Deuteronomy is truly the word of God. Does anyone really want to follow Ch. 21, which reads, "They shall say to the elders, 'This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard.' Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death"? Nobody in their right mind believes God tells us to stone our stubborn and rebellious sons to death. Same with the "Promised Land" story.

[Anonymous]

Israel really, really, really hates Al-Jazeera's bureau chief in Gaza Wael al-Dahdouh.

On October 26, they killed his wife Amna, his 15-year old son Mahmoud, his 7-year old daughter Sham, and his 18-month grandson Adam. They were killed in a "safe location" where IDF instructed them to evacuate from the north.

In December, IDF wounded him in a drone strike and killed his cameraman Samer Abu Daqqa, who was left to bleed out in the street while IDF shooters prevented medical help from reaching him.

Today in southern Gaza they killed his oldest son Hamza, an Al-Jazeera's network journalist and cameraman. Another freelance journalist Mustafa Thuraya was killed with him.

I don't know how much grief one person can take and still stand straight.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing against Jewish Americans at all, I just fail to see where their issues take precedence over any other oppressed American.

I would also point out for many, many, many Jewish Americans “their issue” here is actually stopping the U.S. enabling this bloodbath. That’s why rabbis keep getting arrested at these protests. They are people of conscience and I hope when this is in the rear view mirror people take a moment to reflect on the moral courage it took.

People who pretend to be Jewish, but do not fully and unconditionally support Israel, are not Jewish.

Those so-called “Rabbis” may use the word, but real Jews know they are little more then anti-Semitic pro-Hamas terrorists.

Wow, so Jews are now being antisemitic against other Jews. This is a new low.

Yahweh provided upon the Jewish people a bountiful and eternal land of prosperity and of security, the lands of Israel and the gleaming city of Jerusalem, to provide them with a homeland of solely their own.

If one does not believe and defend the land granted to one’s own people by God himself, were they ever truly Jewish?

(The answer is no)

Not all Jews believe this. Many Jews think the stories of "God's covenant with Abraham" and "the Promised Land" are fables, just as many Jews, Christians, and Muslims don't believe in Adam and Eve or that Earth is 4,000 years old. Some Christians think the Book of Revelations was written by a schizophrenic and was one, long, delusional rant, but that doesn't mean they're not Christians. One can follow a religion without being a fundamentalist literalist. One can follow any of the three major monotheistic traditions and believe that Adam, Eve, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Moses are fictional literary characters who never existed. Similarly, very few "People of the Book" today would believe that Deuteronomy is truly the word of God. Does anyone really want to follow Ch. 21, which reads, "They shall say to the elders, 'This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard.' Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death"? Nobody in their right mind believes God tells us to stone our stubborn and rebellious sons to death. Same with the "Promised Land" story.

If one does not believe in the land promised to them by one’s God, they do not believe in one’s God. Period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Israel really, really, really hates Al-Jazeera's bureau chief in Gaza Wael al-Dahdouh.

On October 26, they killed his wife Amna, his 15-year old son Mahmoud, his 7-year old daughter Sham, and his 18-month grandson Adam. They were killed in a "safe location" where IDF instructed them to evacuate from the north.

In December, IDF wounded him in a drone strike and killed his cameraman Samer Abu Daqqa, who was left to bleed out in the street while IDF shooters prevented medical help from reaching him.

Today in southern Gaza they killed his oldest son Hamza, an Al-Jazeera's network journalist and cameraman. Another freelance journalist Mustafa Thuraya was killed with him.

I don't know how much grief one person can take and still stand straight.

Al Jazeera is a well known supporter of Hamas.

Not sure why you would be surprised that Israel would target Hamas supporters, as their goal is to remove all Hamas supporters from Gaza.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Israel really, really, really hates Al-Jazeera's bureau chief in Gaza Wael al-Dahdouh.

On October 26, they killed his wife Amna, his 15-year old son Mahmoud, his 7-year old daughter Sham, and his 18-month grandson Adam. They were killed in a "safe location" where IDF instructed them to evacuate from the north.

In December, IDF wounded him in a drone strike and killed his cameraman Samer Abu Daqqa, who was left to bleed out in the street while IDF shooters prevented medical help from reaching him.

Today in southern Gaza they killed his oldest son Hamza, an Al-Jazeera's network journalist and cameraman. Another freelance journalist Mustafa Thuraya was killed with him.

I don't know how much grief one person can take and still stand straight.

Al Jazeera is a well known supporter of Hamas.

Not sure why you would be surprised that Israel would target Hamas supporters, as their goal is to remove all Hamas supporters from Gaza.

Al-Jazeera is a respected news network that Israel hates for bringing out stories they'd rather not see the light of day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing against Jewish Americans at all, I just fail to see where their issues take precedence over any other oppressed American.

I would also point out for many, many, many Jewish Americans “their issue” here is actually stopping the U.S. enabling this bloodbath. That’s why rabbis keep getting arrested at these protests. They are people of conscience and I hope when this is in the rear view mirror people take a moment to reflect on the moral courage it took.

People who pretend to be Jewish, but do not fully and unconditionally support Israel, are not Jewish.

Those so-called “Rabbis” may use the word, but real Jews know they are little more then anti-Semitic pro-Hamas terrorists.

Wow, so Jews are now being antisemitic against other Jews. This is a new low.

Yahweh provided upon the Jewish people a bountiful and eternal land of prosperity and of security, the lands of Israel and the gleaming city of Jerusalem, to provide them with a homeland of solely their own.

If one does not believe and defend the land granted to one’s own people by God himself, were they ever truly Jewish?

(The answer is no)

Not all Jews believe this. Many Jews think the stories of "God's covenant with Abraham" and "the Promised Land" are fables, just as many Jews, Christians, and Muslims don't believe in Adam and Eve or that Earth is 4,000 years old. Some Christians think the Book of Revelations was written by a schizophrenic and was one, long, delusional rant, but that doesn't mean they're not Christians. One can follow a religion without being a fundamentalist literalist. One can follow any of the three major monotheistic traditions and believe that Adam, Eve, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Moses are fictional literary characters who never existed. Similarly, very few "People of the Book" today would believe that Deuteronomy is truly the word of God. Does anyone really want to follow Ch. 21, which reads, "They shall say to the elders, 'This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard.' Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death"? Nobody in their right mind believes God tells us to stone our stubborn and rebellious sons to death. Same with the "Promised Land" story.

If one does not believe in the land promised to them by one’s God, they do not believe in one’s God. Period.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel really, really, really hates Al-Jazeera's bureau chief in Gaza Wael al-Dahdouh.

On October 26, they killed his wife Amna, his 15-year old son Mahmoud, his 7-year old daughter Sham, and his 18-month grandson Adam. They were killed in a "safe location" where IDF instructed them to evacuate from the north.

In December, IDF wounded him in a drone strike and killed his cameraman Samer Abu Daqqa, who was left to bleed out in the street while IDF shooters prevented medical help from reaching him.

Today in southern Gaza they killed his oldest son Hamza, an Al-Jazeera's network journalist and cameraman. Another freelance journalist Mustafa Thuraya was killed with him.

I don't know how much grief one person can take and still stand straight.

Al Jazeera is a well known supporter of Hamas.

Not sure why you would be surprised that Israel would target Hamas supporters, as their goal is to remove all Hamas supporters from Gaza.

+ "freelance journalism" is a great cover for terrorism.

[Anonymous]

Al-Dahdouh boys killed by IDF strikes



Al-Dahdouh Sr over the bodies of his killed wife and two children with his surviving 12-year son


Al-Dahdouh holds the body of his killed 7-year old daughter


Al-Dahdouh holding the hand of his killed oldest son.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel really, really, really hates Al-Jazeera's bureau chief in Gaza Wael al-Dahdouh.

On October 26, they killed his wife Amna, his 15-year old son Mahmoud, his 7-year old daughter Sham, and his 18-month grandson Adam. They were killed in a "safe location" where IDF instructed them to evacuate from the north.

In December, IDF wounded him in a drone strike and killed his cameraman Samer Abu Daqqa, who was left to bleed out in the street while IDF shooters prevented medical help from reaching him.

Today in southern Gaza they killed his oldest son Hamza, an Al-Jazeera's network journalist and cameraman. Another freelance journalist Mustafa Thuraya was killed with him.

I don't know how much grief one person can take and still stand straight.

Al Jazeera is a well known supporter of Hamas.

Not sure why you would be surprised that Israel would target Hamas supporters, as their goal is to remove all Hamas supporters from Gaza.

+ "freelance journalism" is a great cover for terrorism.

You're just so angry that the world wants to read something other than IDF press releases, aren't you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel really, really, really hates Al-Jazeera's bureau chief in Gaza Wael al-Dahdouh.

On October 26, they killed his wife Amna, his 15-year old son Mahmoud, his 7-year old daughter Sham, and his 18-month grandson Adam. They were killed in a "safe location" where IDF instructed them to evacuate from the north.

In December, IDF wounded him in a drone strike and killed his cameraman Samer Abu Daqqa, who was left to bleed out in the street while IDF shooters prevented medical help from reaching him.

Today in southern Gaza they killed his oldest son Hamza, an Al-Jazeera's network journalist and cameraman. Another freelance journalist Mustafa Thuraya was killed with him.

I don't know how much grief one person can take and still stand straight.

Al Jazeera is a well known supporter of Hamas.

Not sure why you would be surprised that Israel would target Hamas supporters, as their goal is to remove all Hamas supporters from Gaza.

+ "freelance journalism" is a great cover for terrorism.

You are a deranged, despicable human being, one wholly unworthy of walking the earth with the rest of humanity.

[Anonymous]

Shark Tanks: With Gaza as Testing Ground, Israeli Defense Startups Flourish

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-01-03/ty-article-magazine/.premium/suicide-drones-and-ai-with-gaza-as-testing-ground-israeli-defense-startups-flourish/0000018c-cf39-ddba-abad-cfb9a3ee0000


As the Russians say....one person's war is another person's dear mama.

[Anonymous]

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+ "freelance journalism" is a great cover for terrorism.

You are a deranged, despicable human being, one wholly unworthy of walking the earth with the rest of humanity.

Touched a nerve, didn't I?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Btw, that also decreases the number of civilians killed. So maybe genocide might be a reach.

"Genocide" has always been a reach. But then again, it's not a reach to people who deny that 6 million Jews were systematically and deliberately killed by the Nazis.

Yes, the Holocaust happened unfortunately, but almost everyone responsible for this atrocity is dead today. Hopefully, as Americans anyway, we have learned from this and move on and try and realize that most American nonJews born after WWII, in my experience anyway, harbor no hatred or prejudice toward Jews, they’re indifferent, they don’t even realize who is jewish or not. It’s not a topic of conversation for most American non jewish people, it’s a nonissue. I have jewish friends who I didn’t even reaize were jewish initially, they live productive comfortable lives here in the US.

Many Hamas leaders deny the Holocaust happened, as do many other anti-semitic groups. And it's those same people who are trying to frame what's happening in Gaza as being the worst genocide in history. It's a major reach.

Most Americans have no dog in this fight though. We have bigger fish to fry.

of course we do. The spread of autocratic governments endangers us. They tend to be agressive (see Putin and the Hamas attack) and they will come for us.

Israel is a country led by a corrupt, criminal leader who has a stranglehold on an entire nation thanks to the support of a radical right-wing political party. Is this what democracy looks like to the US? This is a banana Republic, not a democracy.

Flawed, but vastly preferred over an Islamic state where women are second class citizens, gays are executed from rooftops, and a significant percentage of the populace wants to murder infidels in pursuit of eternal paradise.

You are describing one manifestation of Islam practiced by one group of Muslims. To generalize from this to all Muslims is Islamophobic. It's akin to claiming all Buddhists are like the war-mongering, racist Buddhist faction in Myanmar that persecutes Muslims. Some Palestinians are Christian or secular rather than Muslim, and some Palestinian Muslims are pacifists.

I would not want to see all Jews stereotyped as being brutal, barbaric, racist Zionists who want an ethnically Jewish state where Palestinians are second-class citizens, Palestinians are executed from the rooftops of their own homes by settler terrorists, and a significant percentage of the populace wants to murder all Palestinians in pursuit of a Zionist paradise.

You are intentionally conflating ethnic and religious issues.

No Buddhists in Myanmar are killing Muslims because they are instructed by their God to do so.

Some Muslims are Pacifists but that doesn’t change the reality that their Holy Books command the murder of infidels and that is indeed cited by terrorists as the murder civilians in thousands of terror attacks that occur globally. Muslim pacifists exist and should be recognized however they are quite literally disobeying orders from god and Mohammad as written in the Quran.

People create God (or gods) in their own image and likeness. They therefore generally find God to conveniently acquiesce in the achievement of their desired goals. Because a spectrum of people practice the major religions, every major religion encompasses a wide variety of views. Fundamentalist Baptist paster Steven Anderson believes gays should be executed, while Episcopalian Christians celebrate same-sex marriage. Leviticus 19 says, "Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material." How many Jews today take that seriously? Different Rabbis prioritize such teachings very differently. Within Islam, every Imam can interpret the teachings of the Quran and the Hadiths differently. The Nazis wore emblems proclaiming "Gott mitt uns" (or "God is with us"). Myanmar Buddhists find a way to twist their religion to justify persecution of the Rohingya. No religion is monolithic,

There's a book by Mark Juergensmeyer called Terror in the Mind of God that illustrates how every major religion is used to justify terror in the name of a higher spiritual power (or powers). I don't know of any religion except perhaps Jainism, whose adherents practice extreme non-harm, that has not been used to hurt and dominate others. Maybe Unitarian Universalism is also fairly benign.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel really, really, really hates Al-Jazeera's bureau chief in Gaza Wael al-Dahdouh.

On October 26, they killed his wife Amna, his 15-year old son Mahmoud, his 7-year old daughter Sham, and his 18-month grandson Adam. They were killed in a "safe location" where IDF instructed them to evacuate from the north.

In December, IDF wounded him in a drone strike and killed his cameraman Samer Abu Daqqa, who was left to bleed out in the street while IDF shooters prevented medical help from reaching him.

Today in southern Gaza they killed his oldest son Hamza, an Al-Jazeera's network journalist and cameraman. Another freelance journalist Mustafa Thuraya was killed with him.

I don't know how much grief one person can take and still stand straight.

Al Jazeera is a well known supporter of Hamas.

Not sure why you would be surprised that Israel would target Hamas supporters, as their goal is to remove all Hamas supporters from Gaza.

I love checking in on this thread, just to see posts like this. Israel and its supporters have completely lost the plot.