Fire in upper NW?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:we don't know that the DNA from pizza crust (and water bottle) is all that the police have. they may well have more physical evidence that we are not yet aware of. it is possible that people are talking, too, so they may have more evidence from "witnesses" and others that we don't know about.

I think they will find a way to nail Wint for this. It certainly seems like they are willing to pull out all the stops so I think someone will be able to find a way to get him convicted and sentenced. Will he talk? I kind of doubt it...it's not like they'd give him a break if he did talk so what would be the advantage of talking for him besides bringing his accomplice(s) down with him? Who knows maybe he would want to turn his accomplice(s) in, I don't think there's any way for me or anyone besides Wint himself to predict what he'll do because he is such an erratically behaving, cold-hearted person...whether or not he will talk could go either way.

I'm sure he and his lawyer will try to come up with every defense. Maybe they'll try to explain why his DNA was found at the murder scene as others have noted (walked by and saw pizza on steps, ate a slice, left the crust, etc.) But I don't see them being able to get him off the hook w/ that, since they also have the water bottle, the cash he was found with, the fact that he ran off to NYC, paid 1000K for a cab back to DC (no one would travel that way except a seriously high roller, which he obviously is not, or a criminal). Even if all these are small things that don't explicitly tie him to the murders/arson, I tend to optimistically believe that if they already have all of this info, they must have more as well. The trial may be long and difficult but the truth will come out, he will be convicted. I have no doubt.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Green construction vests? Plausible if used as a "disguise" on escape but who lets road construction people into their house?

They don't need to be let in. They just need the door to be opened.

Or left open.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also faucets -- kitchen and baths. The water bottle. Whoever retrieved the pizzas and the door knob.

They already said that Wint was eating pizza with gloves on so it is likely that possible others had gloves on as well. Wash Post reported in the last article (and they also opened comments to it interestingly) that there is at least one additional fingerprint on a glass.

Also there should be tons of footage of security cameras on the street/nearby - definitely should shed light on all the comings and goings.

can you link to the article?

Yeah, I've read every article I've seen on Washington Post and have not seen anything about fingerprints on a glass? Please direct to this article! thanks

It was reported as a water bottle

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Speculation overload is killing this thread.

Seriously. That plus the unhealthy anxiety/obsession levels of some people on here is getting out of hand.

I agree about the anxiety/obsession comment but I kind of thought the whole point of the thread from the out-set was speculation?

+1 *sharing news/updates AND speculation* but speculation has always been a big part of the thread because everyone wants to try to piece together what happened and yet no one posting here really knows since none of us were there or work in law enforcement/are privy to all the info. I agree some people posting seem obsessive and take their speculations to an extreme--there have been some wild and zany theories posted here but for the most part people are sharing plausible ideas and information that is helpful in trying to understand what happened here. and I think most posters have been respectful, mindful of the gravity of the topic as well.

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Where was the water bottle found? Inside the house?

Even if the defense pulls a line about no crime about partially eating a slice of pizza on an open porch, regardless of whether to get to the pizza is trespassing, failing to stop a crime in process (e.g., somehow just standing there witnessing) what was going on inside the house while someone or more likely, several someones committed the crime) is in and of itself prosecutable.

This is going to be one interesting trial when it comes up. With all the publicity I'd imagine the court will move it to another jurisdiction.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also faucets -- kitchen and baths. The water bottle. Whoever retrieved the pizzas and the door knob.

They already said that Wint was eating pizza with gloves on so it is likely that possible others had gloves on as well. Wash Post reported in the last article (and they also opened comments to it interestingly) that there is at least one additional fingerprint on a glass.

Also there should be tons of footage of security cameras on the street/nearby - definitely should shed light on all the comings and goings.

can you link to the article?

Yeah, I've read every article I've seen on Washington Post and have not seen anything about fingerprints on a glass? Please direct to this article! thanks

It was reported as a water bottle

ok, thank you. I knew about the water bottle so I was just hoping when I saw someone post about fingerprints on a glass that that was a new piece of evidence.

[Anonymous]

In that kind of neighborhood wouldn't some of the neighbors camera(s) be watching the house next door even tangentially? How about those neighbor's cameras watching what was going on in the streets contiguous to said properties?

What about the large dog? It strains reason to think one or more people forced themselves into the house knowing the alarm system and its camera(s) were off, subdued the dog, secured it somewhere and went out about their crimes. After the fire starts a dog is led out of the house. Huh? Why not just dispatch the dog if the mission was to essentially pillage and plunder?

[Anonymous]

There is a "Facts" thread for this horrific crime if you're uncomfortable with ones speculations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In that kind of neighborhood wouldn't some of the neighbors camera(s) be watching the house next door even tangentially? How about those neighbor's cameras watching what was going on in the streets contiguous to said properties?

What about the large dog? It strains reason to think one or more people forced themselves into the house knowing the alarm system and its camera(s) were off, subdued the dog, secured it somewhere and went out about their crimes. After the fire starts a dog is led out of the house. Huh? Why not just dispatch the dog if the mission was to essentially pillage and plunder?

I agree there must be some video footage from neighbors' houses or street cameras in the neighborhood that could be helpful?

I understood that the dog(s) was outside during the whole crime and was led from the yard once firefighters arrived? Maybe the dog was contained in the backyard and the perps had no reason to fear it or have anything to do with it since it was well secured and out of their way?

[Anonymous]

Fingerprint on a water bottle (not glass) article:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/police-have-not-charged-associates-found-with-quadruple-murder-suspect/2015/05/23/2bce73c8-0187-11e5-833c-a2de05b6b2a4_story.html?tid=HP_more?tid=HP_more

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In that kind of neighborhood wouldn't some of the neighbors camera(s) be watching the house next door even tangentially? How about those neighbor's cameras watching what was going on in the streets contiguous to said properties?

What about the large dog? It strains reason to think one or more people forced themselves into the house knowing the alarm system and its camera(s) were off, subdued the dog, secured it somewhere and went out about their crimes. After the fire starts a dog is led out of the house. Huh? Why not just dispatch the dog if the mission was to essentially pillage and plunder?

I agree there must be some video footage from neighbors' houses or street cameras in the neighborhood that could be helpful?

I understood that the dog(s) was outside during the whole crime and was led from the yard once firefighters arrived? Maybe the dog was contained in the backyard and the perps had no reason to fear it or have anything to do with it since it was well secured and out of their way?

probably caught something and that's know of others being involved but don't know who they are

[Anonymous]

There was a report from a neighbor that said Wint had been sitting quietly on the steps outside of his fathers house the day after the murder. I wonder when he decided to take the cab to NYC

[Anonymous]

Also, doesn't the neighborhood have a private security guard who patrols the area in a car? Do they patrol 24 hours/day, does anyone know? I wonder if he/she saw anything?

I read somewhere that the patrol is more focused on the other end of the street, I guess closer to the embassies.

It's heartbreaking that there were so many protections in place, but nothing helped these poor innocent people.

[Anonymous]

That box truck they were found with had North Carolina tags

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2086397-wint-darron-dellon-dennis-supplement-may-2015.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Again, would the death penalty make it right? This person is so horrible and worthless that killing him would accomplish nothing for me.

Both Petit killers got what they deserved, death. It may accomplish nothing for you but not everyone feels the same.

They were sentenced to death, but they are both alive and well, unfortunately.... Both of them put through an appeal... And apparently this can take years or longer..... There was a news piece about the older guy that he shows no remorse, in fact he wrote letters that he actually has killed 17 other women between the ages of 14 and 25, and that he has raped "dozens of people"

Also CT repealed the death penalty in 2012 - though I think it may not affect cases already closed...