Grandpa from Cruise ship tragedy charged

[Anonymous]

The more grandpa talks the worse the family looks.

[Anonymous]

Indeed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The more grandpa talks the worse the family looks.

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The lawyer should tell him to STFU.

[Anonymous]

During the interview, the grandfather says “it’s like the window disappeared” which to me means he knew the window was open.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The more grandpa talks the worse the family looks.

+1

The lawyer should tell him to STFU.

The lawyer is orchestrating every narrative. This is all scripted and coached and unethical ambulance-chasing legal practice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is the 30 second video public?

Did Grandpa say he was monochromatic color blind?

Who has seen the video of grandpa holding and losing grip on the girl?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The grandfather said he first looked on the floor to see if the child fell there, before realizing she fell out the window. How does this help his case? Whether the floor or outside, he dropped her. Whether the floor or outside, she fell. Who would he blame if he dropped the girl onto the ground of the cruise ship? Any way you spin it, the grandfather made a grave mistake.

And it's awfully suspicious that we're only just hearing about the color blindness now. Which also doesn't take away from his culpability whatsoever.

This entire thing is ridiculous. I’m sure the baby screamed on the way down. He must’ve known immediately what he did.

In the interview he first says he watched her fall all the way down -- and he gets emotional about it as he thinks about what he saw.

Then later in the interview, he says he looked for her on the floor.

He couldn't have looked for her on the floor first. He had to have watched her fall, but then in horror and disbelief and hoping it didn't actually happen, he looked on the floor. That is the brain at work, trying to un-do what you know is true, but hope is not.

I am the parent of a baby who died at the hospital before coming home. I remember for days I just wanted to figure out a way to go back in time and un-do what appeared to be happening. My brain just kept spinning on how to make this not be reality. That is what brains do when the reality is unexpected and unimaginably bad. He saw her go down b/c it happened right in front of him. His brain tried to make it not be so. Thus, he looked on the floor in hopes that it wasn't so.

I can’t even imagine what you felt. At first I kept thinking of how ridiculous this family is, but intense grief must make you think irrationally. I haven’t experienced something this tragic and am trying to be sympathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The more grandpa talks the worse the family looks.

+1

The lawyer should tell him to STFU.

The lawyer is orchestrating every narrative. This is all scripted and coached and unethical ambulance-chasing legal practice.

That the family is voluntarily going along with. Don’t diminish the family’s free will by pretending everything is the lawyer’s fault.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The more grandpa talks the worse the family looks.

+1

The lawyer should tell him to STFU.

The lawyer is orchestrating every narrative. This is all scripted and coached and unethical ambulance-chasing legal practice.

That the family is voluntarily going along with. Don’t diminish the family’s free will by pretending everything is the lawyer’s fault.

No one’s diminishing, pretending or excusing. Reread the exchange for context clues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The more grandpa talks the worse the family looks.

+1

The lawyer should tell him to STFU.

The lawyer is orchestrating every narrative. This is all scripted and coached and unethical ambulance-chasing legal practice.

That the family is voluntarily going along with. Don’t diminish the family’s free will by pretending everything is the lawyer’s fault.

No one’s diminishing, pretending or excusing. Reread the exchange for context clues.

Reread the thread before commenting. There are multiple posts stating that the lawyer is preying on the poor grieving family and that all of this is the doing of the lawyer. Including the bolded above.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The more grandpa talks the worse the family looks.

+1

The lawyer should tell him to STFU.

The lawyer is orchestrating every narrative. This is all scripted and coached and unethical ambulance-chasing legal practice.

That the family is voluntarily going along with. Don’t diminish the family’s free will by pretending everything is the lawyer’s fault.

No one’s diminishing, pretending or excusing. Reread the exchange for context clues.

Reread the thread before commenting. There are multiple posts stating that the lawyer is preying on the poor grieving family and that all of this is the doing of the lawyer. Including the bolded above.

Preying on a grieving family is different from orchestration and collusion.
You must be an ambulance chaser the way you want to defend the lawyer. There are no good actors here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The more grandpa talks the worse the family looks.

+1

The lawyer should tell him to STFU.

The lawyer is orchestrating every narrative. This is all scripted and coached and unethical ambulance-chasing legal practice.

That the family is voluntarily going along with. Don’t diminish the family’s free will by pretending everything is the lawyer’s fault.

No one’s diminishing, pretending or excusing. Reread the exchange for context clues.

Reread the thread before commenting. There are multiple posts stating that the lawyer is preying on the poor grieving family and that all of this is the doing of the lawyer. Including the bolded above.

Preying on a grieving family is different from orchestration and collusion.
You must be an ambulance chaser the way you want to defend the lawyer. There are no good actors here.

The mom is a prosecutor, so they know what they’re doing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The more grandpa talks the worse the family looks.

+1

The lawyer should tell him to STFU.

The lawyer is orchestrating every narrative. This is all scripted and coached and unethical ambulance-chasing legal practice.

That the family is voluntarily going along with. Don’t diminish the family’s free will by pretending everything is the lawyer’s fault.

No one’s diminishing, pretending or excusing. Reread the exchange for context clues.

Reread the thread before commenting. There are multiple posts stating that the lawyer is preying on the poor grieving family and that all of this is the doing of the lawyer. Including the bolded above.

Preying on a grieving family is different from orchestration and collusion.
You must be an ambulance chaser the way you want to defend the lawyer. There are no good actors here.

The mom is a prosecutor, so they know what they’re doing.

I think we're seeing an unusual combination of sincere anguished grief combined with professional, detached judgment. The worst has already happened to these parents and now their professional training has them in damage control mode. They are seeking to not make things even worse than they already are for their family while, at the same time, ease the burden of their overwhelming suffering.

The problem is, that Grandpa behaved negligently and the parents are the ones who entrusted their child to Grandpa's care and supervision. That was a horrible and tragic mistake on their part.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The grandfather said he first looked on the floor to see if the child fell there, before realizing she fell out the window. How does this help his case? Whether the floor or outside, he dropped her. Whether the floor or outside, she fell. Who would he blame if he dropped the girl onto the ground of the cruise ship? Any way you spin it, the grandfather made a grave mistake.

And it's awfully suspicious that we're only just hearing about the color blindness now. Which also doesn't take away from his culpability whatsoever.

This entire thing is ridiculous. I’m sure the baby screamed on the way down. He must’ve known immediately what he did.

In the interview he first says he watched her fall all the way down -- and he gets emotional about it as he thinks about what he saw.

Then later in the interview, he says he looked for her on the floor.

He couldn't have looked for her on the floor first. He had to have watched her fall, but then in horror and disbelief and hoping it didn't actually happen, he looked on the floor. That is the brain at work, trying to un-do what you know is true, but hope is not.

I am the parent of a baby who died at the hospital before coming home. I remember for days I just wanted to figure out a way to go back in time and un-do what appeared to be happening. My brain just kept spinning on how to make this not be reality. That is what brains do when the reality is unexpected and unimaginably bad. He saw her go down b/c it happened right in front of him. His brain tried to make it not be so. Thus, he looked on the floor in hopes that it wasn't so.

I can’t even imagine what you felt. At first I kept thinking of how ridiculous this family is, but intense grief must make you think irrationally. I haven’t experienced something this tragic and am trying to be sympathetic.

It is such a sad and terrible situation. I am just thankful that my family has not had to deal with a tragedy like this.

[Anonymous]

The more grandpa talks the more I get the feeling it was accidentally on purpose. And that somehow the tape proves it. Like he’s not innocent AT ALL. Just a feeling I have.