This... too many ES teachers don't have good math foundational skills themselves. |
SAT scores for Fairfax county vs. MCPS in 2016: 2016 MCPS 1631 with 65% taking the SAT (down from 1651 in 2012 when 71% of students took the SAT) 153 National Merit Semifinalists http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/press/index.aspx?page=showrelease&id=6102 2016 Fairfax County 1672 with around 70% of students taking the SAT tests. (Fairfax County SAT scores were around 1650 in 2012) 223 National Merit Semifinalists https://www.fcps.edu/index.php/news/two-hundred-twenty-three-fcps-students-named-2018-national-merit-semifinalists Fairfax County student body is 39% white, 25.4 percent Hispanic, 19.5 Asian, 10.1 percent Black, 5.3 percent two or more races, 0.3 percent American Indian and 0.1 percent 30% FARMS, 29% ESOL, per student funding is $14,700 Bigger with nearly 190,000 students MCPS is 28.3 % white, 32.3% Hispanic, 21.4% Black, 14.4% Asian and <5% Two or more races 35.5% FARMS, 17.5% ESOL 160,000 students http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/about/Refresh_2011_Content_Pieces/MCPS-At-a-Glance-%2002.02.18(1).pdf What is interesting is that if you look at the SAT scores by school, there are more high schools in MCPS that have SAT scores higher than 1700. MCPS has 8: Whitman 1897, Poolesville 1862, Churchill 1851,Wootton 1818, Richard Montgomery 1779, Walter Johnson 1753, BCC 1741, Blair 1730 Fairfax County has 6 Thomas Jefferson Magnet 2198, Langley 1851, McLean 1821, Madison 1789, Woodson 1755, Oakton 1750 |
This is the Maryland Public Schools forum. We are talking about MCPS educating children/children being educated in MCPS. Not about people choosing whether or not to have or raise babies. If you want to talk about that, post on one of the parenting fora. |
You can't really separate parenting and school regarding education. Parental responsibility plays a key role in their kids education. Parents don't have to be rich or even highly educated but they have to care about their kids education, they have to a good role model to work hard, and to be responsible. |
Are you saying that if kids pick the wrong parents, there's nothing MCPS can do? Or that the whole "bottom half" of the MCPS student body (as a previous poster referred to them) have parents who don't care about their kids' education, don't work hard, and aren't responsible? |
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picking the wrong parents = parents don't care of their kids education, don't work hard and are not responsible
PP You did well on your own Q/A ! |
Of course. No one is saying small is good enough. I was the one who countered the MA suggestion with Wellesley. Wellesley's advantage is that it is not only small, but it is rich. There are essentially no poor kids. An example of a poor performing, town-based district in MA: Lawrence. 13,000 kids, but high poverty rates. In fact, Lawrence and the town next to it (Andover) have some of the biggest differences in educational outcomes of any two adjacent towns in the US, and they epitomize the problem with looking at town-based districts as a comparison point with MCPS. Lawrence is rated as C on Niche, while Andover is an A+. Of course, a county-based district would include both (they're both in Essex County) and many more towns, and the scores would look very different. |
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Sorry, I should give the poverty rates for both towns:
Lawrence -- 24% Andover -- 4% (and only 2.6% of families) |
Make that 34% for Lawrence. My bad. |
| After reading this I'm convinced the best way to close the achievement gap isn't through educational reform but by requiring parenting classes for parents of low performing students. |
What would you "teach" those parents? Lesson 1) Be born in the United States as a native English speaker Lesson 2) Have more money Lesson 3) Have more time Lesson 4) ...........? |
Seriously. How you could possibly come to that conclusion from these posts is beyond me. |
Yes, but that's the catch in MCPS algebra really is not a HS level class, it's cursory. Same for geometry and even algebra 2 to an extent. You have to play the hand your dealt and in MCPS that means get your kid to pre-calc so they begin to get practice with HS level math. Yes that puts them in Calc sooner than you might like, but calc does keep trig and algebraic manipulation skills up to snuff. There is no risk of running out of courses because students can take calc three times in MCPS. Colleges do expect students to have calc in HS now, so anything less does put them at a disadvantage. For a weak student taking calc with applications as a junior and AP calc A/B as a senior is the best way to have a good math foundation for college. And if they get the AP credit and aren't going into a technical field, they may never see math again. |
Maybe the poster was thinking of the model of the Harlem Children's Zone, which includes wrap-around services and parenting classes that start when parents are first expecting. I think they've had some success, but it's expensive, and they have private donors. And this model shouldn't be mandatory, but perhaps incentivized. https://hcz.org/ |
Just hand out free copies of Amy Chua's parenting guide. I've heard it's really effective. |