3 killed in crash on River Road

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Anonymous wrote:He's not disadvantaged if he's driving a car that starts at $45K.

Was he driving the same auto in the other driving/speeding violations, or different cars?

[Anonymous]

At the end of the day, what matters is the driver's conduct. If the driver is totally or partially at fault, it shouldn't make it worse that he's advantaged anymore than the ridiculous suggestion that a driver somehow should be excused based on disadvantage or minority status.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The car has to have some recording sensors, so I think the speed and braking info will come out eventually, but even if he was going a little fast, he is a youth, he is part of a disadvantaged minority, the people that died were turning left and had an absolute duty to YIELD. So really the poor youth is the victim here. I wouldn't be surprised if he could successfully sue the estate of the deceased. It's a tragedy for all, but lets all pray for this poor youth. He shouldn't have to put up with this scrutiny and speculation.

What disadvantaged minority? He is caucasian and went to private school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He's not disadvantaged if he's driving a car that starts at $45K.

Was he driving the same auto in the other driving/speeding violations, or different cars?

How would we know that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He's not disadvantaged if he's driving a car that starts at $45K.

Was he driving the same auto in the other driving/speeding violations, or different cars?

Different cars, this one was a 2016.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm literally hitting my head against the wall. First of all, her family is a family of doctors - don't you think ONE of them has notified the insurance company of the event? Second, don't you think ONE of them will think to pay the next premium? Third, there is usually a 30 day grace period by law. Last, it's really nobody's business.

Between this and the person in the political thread who intended to vote in BOTH the democratic and republican primaries, and had NO CLUE that wasn't allowed.....

Where do you get that they're a family of doctors?

Not PP but I'm assuming there are people here who know the family.

I imagine they can handle things. The Volt driver and his Neurologist brother where partners in a management firm that ran a large scale medical clinic... https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2000/02/21/when-a-health-firm-gets-sick-and-dies/d9ed489b-6377-4fc1-9bd3-bbab705c4c97/

The Volt driver isn't mentioned at all in this article.

Sure he is... "Medi-Cen spent more than $1 million on accountants and lawyers to prepare for a $20 million initial public offering in 1998. Macedo's brother, Mickey, was a securities lawyer and chief executive officer of Medi-Cen Management Inc. Together, they owned 88.8 percent of company shares."

I read the full article.
Those brothers should be ashamed!!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is tragic. I hope this leads the state of Maryland to take action and review both its driver training requirements and enforcement. How many more lives have to be lost?? This is so heartbreaking.

This is definitely the result of a tragic mistake, but I'm not sure MD's laws are the issue. What driver training requirements are inadequate? As for enforcement, we can't expect law enforcement on every corner, and for this type of accident (failure to yield), the officer wouldn't notice the violation until it's already too late.

Our licensing requirements are pathetic. We need to be like Germany. The requirements are rigorous and expensive.it is not taken lightly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is tragic. I hope this leads the state of Maryland to take action and review both its driver training requirements and enforcement. How many more lives have to be lost?? This is so heartbreaking.

This is definitely the result of a tragic mistake, but I'm not sure MD's laws are the issue. What driver training requirements are inadequate? As for enforcement, we can't expect law enforcement on every corner, and for this type of accident (failure to yield), the officer wouldn't notice the violation until it's already too late.

Our licensing requirements are pathetic. We need to be like Germany. The requirements are rigorous and expensive.it is not taken lightly.

We could teach people to actually drive a car instead of teaching them to operate it . . .that would be a start.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The car has to have some recording sensors, so I think the speed and braking info will come out eventually, but even if he was going a little fast, he is a youth, he is part of a disadvantaged minority, the people that died were turning left and had an absolute duty to YIELD. So really the poor youth is the victim here. I wouldn't be surprised if he could successfully sue the estate of the deceased. It's a tragedy for all, but lets all pray for this poor youth. He shouldn't have to put up with this scrutiny and speculation.

I know this is a serious conversation but I couldn't help but read this entire paragraph in Joe Pesci's 'my cousin vinny' post. Who says youth like that over and over?

Someone being sarcastic?

[Anonymous]

Having been in a similar accident (hit while turning left across traffic on a busy street), my own experience was that the other driver's conduct - speed, distraction, etc - was immaterial from the point of view of the law. The driver who is turning into traffic is the one responsible for making sure that conditions are safe to do so (as the PP said, an absolute duty to yield).

Our car was hit broadside by a driver as we crossed Conn Ave, and the police filed a citation against me within hours for a reckless turn (or some such language.) When I questioned whether they had looked to see if the other driver was speeding or using a cell phone, they said that the law made any other factors irrelevant. The citation was effectively automatic.

I don't know if this is how it will play out in the River Road crash, but I know that I never ever forget that it's MY responsibility to only pull into a lane of traffic when it is absolutely safe to do so. No one was hurt in my accident, but that was only good fortune on my part.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Having been in a similar accident (hit while turning left across traffic on a busy street), my own experience was that the other driver's conduct - speed, distraction, etc - was immaterial from the point of view of the law. The driver who is turning into traffic is the one responsible for making sure that conditions are safe to do so (as the PP said, an absolute duty to yield).

Our car was hit broadside by a driver as we crossed Conn Ave, and the police filed a citation against me within hours for a reckless turn (or some such language.) When I questioned whether they had looked to see if the other driver was speeding or using a cell phone, they said that the law made any other factors irrelevant. The citation was effectively automatic.

I don't know if this is how it will play out in the River Road crash, but I know that I never ever forget that it's MY responsibility to only pull into a lane of traffic when it is absolutely safe to do so. No one was hurt in my accident, but that was only good fortune on my part.

I'm so glad that you weren't hurt.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He's not disadvantaged if he's driving a car that starts at $45K.

Was he driving the same auto in the other driving/speeding violations, or different cars?

Different cars, this one was a 2016.

It seems that he has a fondness for fast cars. Not a good thing on River Road.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The car has to have some recording sensors, so I think the speed and braking info will come out eventually, but even if he was going a little fast, he is a youth, he is part of a disadvantaged minority, the people that died were turning left and had an absolute duty to YIELD. So really the poor youth is the victim here. I wouldn't be surprised if he could successfully sue the estate of the deceased. It's a tragedy for all, but lets all pray for this poor youth. He shouldn't have to put up with this scrutiny and speculation.

What disadvantaged minority? He is caucasian and went to private school.

As if any one of these should matter -- they don't. What matters is whether he was driving recklessly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The car has to have some recording sensors, so I think the speed and braking info will come out eventually, but even if he was going a little fast, he is a youth, he is part of a disadvantaged minority, the people that died were turning left and had an absolute duty to YIELD. So really the poor youth is the victim here. I wouldn't be surprised if he could successfully sue the estate of the deceased. It's a tragedy for all, but lets all pray for this poor youth. He shouldn't have to put up with this scrutiny and speculation.

What disadvantaged minority? He is caucasian and went to private school.

As if any one of these should matter -- they don't. What matters is whether he was driving recklessly.

+1

It is a common mob mentality belief that the "mob" is entitled to attack those with money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having been in a similar accident (hit while turning left across traffic on a busy street), my own experience was that the other driver's conduct - speed, distraction, etc - was immaterial from the point of view of the law. The driver who is turning into traffic is the one responsible for making sure that conditions are safe to do so (as the PP said, an absolute duty to yield).

Our car was hit broadside by a driver as we crossed Conn Ave, and the police filed a citation against me within hours for a reckless turn (or some such language.) When I questioned whether they had looked to see if the other driver was speeding or using a cell phone, they said that the law made any other factors irrelevant. The citation was effectively automatic.

I don't know if this is how it will play out in the River Road crash, but I know that I never ever forget that it's MY responsibility to only pull into a lane of traffic when it is absolutely safe to do so. No one was hurt in my accident, but that was only good fortune on my part.

I'm so glad that you weren't hurt.

For the first few weeks, all I focused on was how lucky I was that my kids were OK - the impact occurred at the rear passenger side door, where my then-not-quite 2yo was strapped into his car seat. It slowly dawned on me how devastating it would have been to have been responsible for someone else's injury or god forbid worse. I try to remind myself now every time I get behind the wheel that I'm responsible for the safety of my family/passengers but also for that of others on the road -- even if they might be driving imperfectly themselves. And whenever I see a crash or read about a tragedy like River Road, I remember that it could happen to me or someone I care about. Drive safe everyone.