Should financial aid in private school be stricter?

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if lots of comments referencing OP are OP. This thread reeks of troll.

Which ones were referencing op? I’m new to this thread and man it’s juicy this is why I love this website.

It’s just a bitter upper income class parent that is unhappy with this thread.

Mind saying the time of the comment?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if lots of comments referencing OP are OP. This thread reeks of troll.

Which ones were referencing op? I’m new to this thread and man it’s juicy this is why I love this website.

It’s just a bitter upper income class parent that is unhappy with this thread.

Mind saying the time of the comment?

Maybe you can buy some glasses and check yourself.

[Anonymous]

Wow, let’s argue about unaffordable schools — most kids go to high schools with a 60% or higher FARMs rate. Get real!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is something else.

It’s very revealing about how parents think about inclusion. And how upper middle class families feel entitled to financial aid.

Let's get real: This thread is a poster child of the seething elitism that permeates at least the striver subculture in NOVA. They want to be the lords of their newfound elite fiefdom, didn't you hear they "made it" y'all, and they are obnoxiously rude to anybody they perceive as earning less HHI than them, like middle class parents, and wish to trash and exclude them like a school bully. It's very high school. But, they post a meme once a year about caring for the poors or whatever is fashionable to try to cloak the stench of their bully poo - like spraying secret deodorant on pits without showering a month. Nope, you still stink as a human being.

In your example a full pay striver who "made it" doesn't want a "low income" kid. Actually, IRL that persona WOULD want a low income kid. Why? That kid has zero possibility to compete with theirs in the social landscape. The ones that they would want to EXCLUDE in your example would be the middle class kids. Why? Because most of these strivers pull up the ladder behind them. This has been demonstrated over and over and over in literature about minority groups in organizations.

So, let me get this straight - you would prefer that the striving UMC pull up the ladders behind them that would allow a larger portion of middle class families access to private education in lieu of a tiny sub-population of truly low income deserving kids? So wierd.

I support deserving middle class financial aid. It helps the largest number of students. More people helped = better for my dollars. Period.

I never mentioned the hypothetical low income students. I said middle class.

But please, humor me - at what schools are "LOW INCOME" families applying to in droves and their financial aid is snatched up by middle class folks. Tell me all about it

Lol!
I think we might be in aggressive agreement then. There are no droves of low income kids snatching money from middle class kids.

Say your financial aid pot is 100k. You can fully fund 2 low income kids or partially fund 10 MC kids. I'd fund 10 MC kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if lots of comments referencing OP are OP. This thread reeks of troll.

Which ones were referencing op? I’m new to this thread and man it’s juicy this is why I love this website.

It’s just a bitter upper income class parent that is unhappy with this thread.

Mind saying the time of the comment?

Maybe you can buy some glasses and check yourself.

Half the thread is upper income bitter parents. That’s why I asked no need to be rude.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is something else.

It’s very revealing about how parents think about inclusion. And how upper middle class families feel entitled to financial aid.

Let's get real: This thread is a poster child of the seething elitism that permeates at least the striver subculture in NOVA. They want to be the lords of their newfound elite fiefdom, didn't you hear they "made it" y'all, and they are obnoxiously rude to anybody they perceive as earning less HHI than them, like middle class parents, and wish to trash and exclude them like a school bully. It's very high school. But, they post a meme once a year about caring for the poors or whatever is fashionable to try to cloak the stench of their bully poo - like spraying secret deodorant on pits without showering a month. Nope, you still stink as a human being.

In your example a full pay striver who "made it" doesn't want a "low income" kid. Actually, IRL that persona WOULD want a low income kid. Why? That kid has zero possibility to compete with theirs in the social landscape. The ones that they would want to EXCLUDE in your example would be the middle class kids. Why? Because most of these strivers pull up the ladder behind them. This has been demonstrated over and over and over in literature about minority groups in organizations.

So, let me get this straight - you would prefer that the striving UMC pull up the ladders behind them that would allow a larger portion of middle class families access to private education in lieu of a tiny sub-population of truly low income deserving kids? So wierd.

I support deserving middle class financial aid. It helps the largest number of students. More people helped = better for my dollars. Period.

I never mentioned the hypothetical low income students. I said middle class.

But please, humor me - at what schools are "LOW INCOME" families applying to in droves and their financial aid is snatched up by middle class folks. Tell me all about it

Lol!
I think we might be in aggressive agreement then. There are no droves of low income kids snatching money from middle class kids.

Say your financial aid pot is 100k. You can fully fund 2 low income kids or partially fund 10 MC kids. I'd fund 10 MC kids.

Specially if your kid is one of the 10.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if lots of comments referencing OP are OP. This thread reeks of troll.

Which ones were referencing op? I’m new to this thread and man it’s juicy this is why I love this website.

It’s just a bitter upper income class parent that is unhappy with this thread.

Mind saying the time of the comment?

Maybe you can buy some glasses and check yourself.

Half the thread is upper income bitter parents. That’s why I asked no need to be rude.

Agree. Apologies.

[Anonymous]

Ignore the troll. This is a troll thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if lots of comments referencing OP are OP. This thread reeks of troll.

Which ones were referencing op? I’m new to this thread and man it’s juicy this is why I love this website.

It’s just a bitter upper income class parent that is unhappy with this thread.

Mind saying the time of the comment?

09:39

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ignore the troll. This is a troll thread.

Also ignore the vitriolic responses by upper middle income parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People with ability to pay who game the system are not a reason to ban middle class families who cannot afford full pay from financial aid.

And most "poor" families don't even bother applying - would you? There's a lot of incidental costs involved with private school - the uniforms, aftercare, hot lunches, special lunches, the billion special outfits day, like hey wear your favorite football jersey this week, baseball next week, fave green pants, orange shirt, colonial costume, etc etc. The classist vibe. I don't think DD's grade has any poor families at all.

Yes we have to subsidize middle class families so they can cover their incidentals like the bmw, trips to Europe, the mortgage, etc etc

If this is the way you feel, why the heck are you participating in a system clearly against your values?! You're a total hypocrite!

That’s exactly my point. You should erase inclusion from your vocabulary if you want to be a bit more honest.

You should think more carefully about what inclusion means.

If you consider yourself an inclusive person and would, for example, "include" anyone in your family that your child chooses to marry - would you also include a rapist serial killer who beats your grandchildren? I wouldn't. I would purposefully exclude them from family gatherings.

Yes. Low income kids are similar to rapists serial killers.

If that's what you got from the extreme example, you wouldn't pass the reading comprehension portion of the ISEE and would be EXCLUDED from private school based on subpar intelligence.

[Anonymous]

Yes, but it's really hard to implement. So many ways to present one's finances...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if lots of comments referencing OP are OP. This thread reeks of troll.

Which ones were referencing op? I’m new to this thread and man it’s juicy this is why I love this website.

It’s just a bitter upper income class parent that is unhappy with this thread.

Mind saying the time of the comment?

09:39

17:17

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People with ability to pay who game the system are not a reason to ban middle class families who cannot afford full pay from financial aid.

And most "poor" families don't even bother applying - would you? There's a lot of incidental costs involved with private school - the uniforms, aftercare, hot lunches, special lunches, the billion special outfits day, like hey wear your favorite football jersey this week, baseball next week, fave green pants, orange shirt, colonial costume, etc etc. The classist vibe. I don't think DD's grade has any poor families at all.

Yes we have to subsidize middle class families so they can cover their incidentals like the bmw, trips to Europe, the mortgage, etc etc

If this is the way you feel, why the heck are you participating in a system clearly against your values?! You're a total hypocrite!

That’s exactly my point. You should erase inclusion from your vocabulary if you want to be a bit more honest.

You should think more carefully about what inclusion means.

If you consider yourself an inclusive person and would, for example, "include" anyone in your family that your child chooses to marry - would you also include a rapist serial killer who beats your grandchildren? I wouldn't. I would purposefully exclude them from family gatherings.

Yes. Low income kids are similar to rapists serial killers.

If that's what you got from the extreme example, you wouldn't pass the reading comprehension portion of the ISEE and would be EXCLUDED from private school based on subpar intelligence.

Damn 🤣

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People with ability to pay who game the system are not a reason to ban middle class families who cannot afford full pay from financial aid.

And most "poor" families don't even bother applying - would you? There's a lot of incidental costs involved with private school - the uniforms, aftercare, hot lunches, special lunches, the billion special outfits day, like hey wear your favorite football jersey this week, baseball next week, fave green pants, orange shirt, colonial costume, etc etc. The classist vibe. I don't think DD's grade has any poor families at all.

Yes we have to subsidize middle class families so they can cover their incidentals like the bmw, trips to Europe, the mortgage, etc etc

If this is the way you feel, why the heck are you participating in a system clearly against your values?! You're a total hypocrite!

That’s exactly my point. You should erase inclusion from your vocabulary if you want to be a bit more honest.

You should think more carefully about what inclusion means.

If you consider yourself an inclusive person and would, for example, "include" anyone in your family that your child chooses to marry - would you also include a rapist serial killer who beats your grandchildren? I wouldn't. I would purposefully exclude them from family gatherings.

Yes. Low income kids are similar to rapists serial killers.

If that's what you got from the extreme example, you wouldn't pass the reading comprehension portion of the ISEE and would be EXCLUDED from private school based on subpar intelligence.

This is the example you brought up :”If you consider yourself an inclusive person and would, for example, "include" anyone in your family that your child chooses to marry - would you also include a rapist serial killer who beats your grandchildren?”

In essence what you are saying is that including low income kids in schools is similar to allowing your child Marrying a rapist serial killer. Now I think this will make you look better.