TJ Falls to 14th in the Nation Per US News

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Anonymous wrote:After this year, the ranking drop will be a usual thing. Families will look for more serious academic options for their kids. FCPS can have fun with their DEi students. Nobody cares anymore.

This is a relief. Leave TJ to the STEM kids, not to children of parents who are trying to maximize their child's college app and eventual career.

“STEM kids” who spend their hs in remedial math and never are a part of any STEM competitions lol

Fortunately the students going to TJ are from the very top 1.5% of their schools so are all top notch.

That’s not how it works.

Yes only half the kids come from the top 1.5% of their school. The other half are the top kids in the county who weren't within he top 1.5% of their school. Regardless TJ only gets the cream of the crop.

The kids who don't fall in the top 1.5% of their school most often come from wealthy feeders where parents can afford to invest more heavily in outside enrichment. Many of the kids who aren't in the top 1.5% of Cooper or Longfellow may have higher stats than the very top kid at less affluent school. Nevertheless, TJ only gets the very best the county has to offer, and personally sometimes these kids who manage to do well without the outside enrichment are incredibly gifted and benefit even more from what TJ has to offer. Kids from wealthy schools whose parents support them will be fine regardless, but for others this experience is life changing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:After this year, the ranking drop will be a usual thing. Families will look for more serious academic options for their kids. FCPS can have fun with their DEi students. Nobody cares anymore.

This is a relief. Leave TJ to the STEM kids, not to children of parents who are trying to maximize their child's college app and eventual career.

“STEM kids” who spend their hs in remedial math and never are a part of any STEM competitions lol

Fortunately the students going to TJ are from the very top 1.5% of their schools so are all top notch.

That’s not how it works.

Yes only half the kids come from the top 1.5% of their school. The other half are the top kids in the county who weren't within he top 1.5% of their school. Regardless TJ only gets the cream of the crop.

The kids who don't fall in the top 1.5% of their school most often come from wealthy feeders where parents can afford to invest more heavily in outside enrichment. Many of the kids who aren't in the top 1.5% of Cooper or Longfellow may have higher stats than the very top kid at less affluent school. Nevertheless, TJ only gets the very best the county has to offer, and personally sometimes these kids who manage to do well without the outside enrichment are incredibly gifted and benefit even more from what TJ has to offer. Kids from wealthy schools whose parents support them will be fine regardless, but for others this experience is life changing.

Basically the 3rd tier preppers aren't getting in bacause high-performing kids from less affluent schools are taking their spots.

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Anonymous wrote:After this year, the ranking drop will be a usual thing. Families will look for more serious academic options for their kids. FCPS can have fun with their DEi students. Nobody cares anymore.

This is a relief. Leave TJ to the STEM kids, not to children of parents who are trying to maximize their child's college app and eventual career.

“STEM kids” who spend their hs in remedial math and never are a part of any STEM competitions lol

Fortunately the students going to TJ are from the very top 1.5% of their schools so are all top notch.

That’s not how it works.

Yes only half the kids come from the top 1.5% of their school. The other half are the top kids in the county who weren't within he top 1.5% of their school. Regardless TJ only gets the cream of the crop.

The kids who don't fall in the top 1.5% of their school most often come from wealthy feeders where parents can afford to invest more heavily in outside enrichment. Many of the kids who aren't in the top 1.5% of Cooper or Longfellow may have higher stats than the very top kid at less affluent school. Nevertheless, TJ only gets the very best the county has to offer, and personally sometimes these kids who manage to do well without the outside enrichment are incredibly gifted and benefit even more from what TJ has to offer. Kids from wealthy schools whose parents support them will be fine regardless, but for others this experience is life changing.

Basically the 3rd tier preppers aren't getting in bacause high-performing kids from less affluent schools are taking their spots.

You're wrong. The 3rd tier preppers are still getting in. They're displacing the academically elite kids from the higher SES schools.

I'm all for the 1.5% allocation per school. The thing I'm against is making the application so sparse that they can't differentiate between the 3rd tier preppers and the highly gifted kids within any school.

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Anonymous wrote:After this year, the ranking drop will be a usual thing. Families will look for more serious academic options for their kids. FCPS can have fun with their DEi students. Nobody cares anymore.

This is a relief. Leave TJ to the STEM kids, not to children of parents who are trying to maximize their child's college app and eventual career.

“STEM kids” who spend their hs in remedial math and never are a part of any STEM competitions lol

Fortunately the students going to TJ are from the very top 1.5% of their schools so are all top notch.

That’s not how it works.

Yes only half the kids come from the top 1.5% of their school. The other half are the top kids in the county who weren't within he top 1.5% of their school. Regardless TJ only gets the cream of the crop.

The kids who don't fall in the top 1.5% of their school most often come from wealthy feeders where parents can afford to invest more heavily in outside enrichment. Many of the kids who aren't in the top 1.5% of Cooper or Longfellow may have higher stats than the very top kid at less affluent school. Nevertheless, TJ only gets the very best the county has to offer, and personally sometimes these kids who manage to do well without the outside enrichment are incredibly gifted and benefit even more from what TJ has to offer. Kids from wealthy schools whose parents support them will be fine regardless, but for others this experience is life changing.

Basically the 3rd tier preppers aren't getting in bacause high-performing kids from less affluent schools are taking their spots.

You're wrong. The 3rd tier preppers are still getting in. They're displacing the academically elite kids from the higher SES schools.

I'm all for the 1.5% allocation per school. The thing I'm against is making the application so sparse that they can't differentiate between the 3rd tier preppers and the highly gifted kids within any school.

I’m strongly pro-reform and I have this concern as well. I don’t think my concern is perhaps as severe as others, but I do worry that TJ isn’t getting the right kids from Carson, Longfellow, Cooper, Rocky Run, etc.

[Anonymous]

Are you poor? You’re in.
Everyone else? Lottery

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Anonymous wrote:After this year, the ranking drop will be a usual thing. Families will look for more serious academic options for their kids. FCPS can have fun with their DEi students. Nobody cares anymore.

This is a relief. Leave TJ to the STEM kids, not to children of parents who are trying to maximize their child's college app and eventual career.

“STEM kids” who spend their hs in remedial math and never are a part of any STEM competitions lol

Fortunately the students going to TJ are from the very top 1.5% of their schools so are all top notch.

That’s not how it works.

Yes only half the kids come from the top 1.5% of their school. The other half are the top kids in the county who weren't within he top 1.5% of their school. Regardless TJ only gets the cream of the crop.

It's obvious the PP is correct. The data shows that it's true.

The kids who don't fall in the top 1.5% of their school most often come from wealthy feeders where parents can afford to invest more heavily in outside enrichment. Many of the kids who aren't in the top 1.5% of Cooper or Longfellow may have higher stats than the very top kid at less affluent school. Nevertheless, TJ only gets the very best the county has to offer, and personally sometimes these kids who manage to do well without the outside enrichment are incredibly gifted and benefit even more from what TJ has to offer. Kids from wealthy schools whose parents support them will be fine regardless, but for others this experience is life changing.

Basically the 3rd tier preppers aren't getting in bacause high-performing kids from less affluent schools are taking their spots.

You're wrong. The 3rd tier preppers are still getting in. They're displacing the academically elite kids from the higher SES schools.

I'm all for the 1.5% allocation per school. The thing I'm against is making the application so sparse that they can't differentiate between the 3rd tier preppers and the highly gifted kids within any school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After this year, the ranking drop will be a usual thing. Families will look for more serious academic options for their kids. FCPS can have fun with their DEi students. Nobody cares anymore.

This is a relief. Leave TJ to the STEM kids, not to children of parents who are trying to maximize their child's college app and eventual career.

“STEM kids” who spend their hs in remedial math and never are a part of any STEM competitions lol

Fortunately the students going to TJ are from the very top 1.5% of their schools so are all top notch.

That’s not how it works.

Yes only half the kids come from the top 1.5% of their school. The other half are the top kids in the county who weren't within he top 1.5% of their school. Regardless TJ only gets the cream of the crop.

The kids who don't fall in the top 1.5% of their school most often come from wealthy feeders where parents can afford to invest more heavily in outside enrichment. Many of the kids who aren't in the top 1.5% of Cooper or Longfellow may have higher stats than the very top kid at less affluent school. Nevertheless, TJ only gets the very best the county has to offer, and personally sometimes these kids who manage to do well without the outside enrichment are incredibly gifted and benefit even more from what TJ has to offer. Kids from wealthy schools whose parents support them will be fine regardless, but for others this experience is life changing.

Basically the 3rd tier preppers aren't getting in bacause high-performing kids from less affluent schools are taking their spots.

You're wrong. The 3rd tier preppers are still getting in. They're displacing the academically elite kids from the higher SES schools.

I'm all for the 1.5% allocation per school. The thing I'm against is making the application so sparse that they can't differentiate between the 3rd tier preppers and the highly gifted kids within any school.

No, they're right. It's baked into the process.

[Anonymous]

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Are you poor? You’re in.
Everyone else? Lottery

Nope.

Are you advanced merit? We limit you based on your skin color
Right kind of skin color? You are in, even if unqualified

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Are you poor? You’re in.
Everyone else? Lottery

Nope.

Are you advanced merit? We limit you based on your skin color
Right kind of skin color? You are in, even if unqualified

Fake news.

It’s a race blind admissions process. And there are just as many Asian students there as there were before the change.

[Anonymous]

The number of Asian students enrolled at TJ by school year (fall):
17-18: 1,216
18-19: 1,251
19-20: 1,293
20-21: 1,303
21-22: 1,264 **
22-23: 1,293 **
23-24: 1,275 **

[Anonymous]

Who says there's no racial quota management? Magically, the Asian percent alone has gone down, and stays down?

[Anonymous]

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Who says there's no racial quota management? Magically, the Asian percent alone has gone down, and stays down?

Percent total of Asians will obviously go down, mathematically, because there are many middle schools where there are very few Asians. If more Asians moved to other middle schools instead of primarily concentrating in Rocky Run, Carson, and Cooper, then the Asian percentage will go up again.

[Anonymous]

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Who says there's no racial quota management? Magically, the Asian percent alone has gone down, and stays down?

Percent total of Asians will obviously go down, mathematically, because there are many middle schools where there are very few Asians. If more Asians moved to other middle schools instead of primarily concentrating in Rocky Run, Carson, and Cooper, then the Asian percentage will go up again.

Those bottom middle schools do not teach math classes beyond Algebra 1. Even in their Algebra 1 math class, prealgebra is being taught but inflated A grades are being given out. How do we know this? The SOL scores show 75% of the class failing at grade level Algebra 1 math.

[Anonymous]

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Who says there's no racial quota management? Magically, the Asian percent alone has gone down, and stays down?

Intentionally misleading y-axis. Try again.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Who says there's no racial quota management? Magically, the Asian percent alone has gone down, and stays down?

Percent total of Asians will obviously go down, mathematically, because there are many middle schools where there are very few Asians. If more Asians moved to other middle schools instead of primarily concentrating in Rocky Run, Carson, and Cooper, then the Asian percentage will go up again.

Those bottom middle schools do not teach math classes beyond Algebra 1. Even in their Algebra 1 math class, prealgebra is being taught but inflated A grades are being given out. How do we know this? The SOL scores show 75% of the class failing at grade level Algebra 1 math.

Which FCPS middle schools aren't teaching Geometry? The SOL data indicates that Key, Poe, and Stone have some kids taking the geometry SOL, and some years have numbers above the reporting threshold of 10. Also, the SOL scores posted on the VDOE page show that all of these lower SES middle schools have an Algebra I SOL pass rate of at least 80%.