This fact gets glossed over so much. Biden had no legal authority to take docs from his time as senator or VP. He was breaking the law taking and possessing those documents and we know he had docs from his time as both senator and VP. That was clearly criminal and it doesn’t matter if the documents were locked up or whatever. They were not his to take. |
DP - the Trumpers don’t care about lack of evidence. They are concerned with projecting false equivalences as Trump instructed them to do. As various of his admin staff observed, when accused of crimes, Trump accuses his rivals of committing the same crimes. |
That’s not what the report said. The report said that Biden broke the law, but not worth bringing the case because the jury would likely view him as a sympathetic elderly man with memory problems |
Mah papers! |
The report was a trashy hit job. There was not enough evidence to press charges so Hurr went on a Trumpian political mud slinging rampage. Hur probably has a bright future in the GOP Special counsel report on Biden a ‘partisan hit job’, Democrats say https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/09/democrat-opinion-special-counsel-report-biden Others raised spectre of Comey, FBI director who declined to indict Hillary Clinton in 2016 but publicly cast doubt on her character Martin Pengelly in Washington @MartinPengelly Fri 9 Feb 2024 12.17 EST Joe Biden, senior aides and political observers strongly criticisms the special counsel, Robert Hur, for extensively discussing the president’s age and allegedly fading memory in his report on Biden’s retention of classified information from his time as a senator and as vice-president – which did not produce an indictment. Hur, who Donald Trump appointed US attorney for Maryland, “could not refrain from investigative excess”, said Bob Bauer, Biden’s personal counsel. Though this was “perhaps unsurprising given the intense pressures of the current political environment”, Bauer added, the final report “flouts Department [of Justice] regulations and …. Hur’s “extraneous commentary” had “no place in this report”, Biden added. Bauer elaborated: “The [DoJ] inspector general observed only a few years ago that high-profile investigations, such as those of a president, may be ‘subject to scrutiny not typical of the average criminal case, but that does not provide a basis for violating well-established department norms, and, essentially, ‘trashing’ the subject of an investigation’ with extraneous, unfounded and irrelevant critical commentary. The inspector general added that it ‘violate[s] long-standing department practice and protocol’ to ‘criticise uncharged conduct’. The special counsel report fails that test as well.” Hur, Bauer said, “had no choice but to find that criminal charges were not warranted. He had other choices, which should have been guided by the department’s rules, policies, and practices, and he made the wrong ones.” The MSNBC host Joe Scarborough, an ex-Republican congressman, accused Hur of “irrelevant … politically charged, Trump-like ramblings”. “It sure sounds like James Comey, who couldn’t indict Hillary Clinton illegally so he decided to hold a press conference and indict her politically.” n his Message Box newsletter, Pfeiffer said the report was “very bad and poses some real political peril”. But he added: “Robert Hur is described in press reports as a ‘well-respected US attorney’ – and maybe he once was. But this report is a partisan hit job. He swerves out of his lane to drive a negative narrative about Biden, the same message the Republican party uses against Biden … generously describ[ing] memory lapses from others but hammer[ing] Biden for the same. “It’s hard to read the report and not think that, without the ability to charge Biden with a crime, Hur wanted to damage him politically.” |
The only lying is from people who cannot accept that Biden has major cognitive issues. Continue to do so at your own political peril. Everyone knows it now. The main tact today was to attack the propriety of Huh including the details about Biden’s memory in his report. I note there were no denials with respect to the allegations. The press will now hammer him if they even let him out again which they will not nor will he debate. |
It is fascinating, isn't it? Nate Silver commented that 75% of Americans have concerns about Biden's age is an astonishing finding because to get 75% of Americans to actually agree on something is remarkable enough in today's climate. While he didn't say it, I find even more remarkable the 25% who are not concerned, but I wonder if many of the 25% don't care because they only see him as a figurehead and the real administration is the group of policy wonks at the WH and that's all that matters. The concerns over Biden's cognitive decline was already manifesting itself in 2020 and Biden escaped attention by spending most of that year in his basement. He did very little campaigning, using COVID as an excuse. And the gaffes where around, no matter how hard people hid it. For those of us with aging parents, the clues where all there. The denial was depressing and sad. But the Democrats have themselves to blame - they could have had a perfectly competent president in Amy Klobuchar. |
No buddy the crown for lying belongs to Trump and his GOP cult followers who enable his 30 k plus and growing body of verified lies, extensive business fraud, violent government rebellion. The guy misrepresents literally everything from losing the 2020 election fair and square, to his economic performance to the size of crowds he attracts to his wealth and even his height and size of hands. There is nothing he won’t lie about. |
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Both can be true, Buddy. I hate Trump. But the defense of Biden as wholly in control of his faculties is as big a lie as I have ever seen. He is done and the people who are trying to gaslight everyone else into thinking he is fine are not helping themselves nor are they helping the country. Much as I cannot stand her either, the 25th Amendment she be invoked and Harris should step in. |
Right after states are allowed to knock the disgraceful insurrectionist off the ballot as required by the constitution’s 14th amendment … |
Biden needs to submit to cognitive tests asap and release them to the public. Even Harry Blackmun would go to the Mayo clinic every year for cognitive testing starting in his 70s. I hope everyone could agree on this much. |
Yeah, you’re likely gonna lose that one 8-1 or 9-0. You’re having a bad week. |
25th Amendment will be invoked. |
That’s stupid. Biden had some notes and briefing documents from official travel and meetings and a few mistakenly were not collected and secured or destroyed. They ended up in boxes in his office and then in his home with no evidence that he or anyone else knew anything classified was in there. It happens, especially with notes. He didn’t take top secret documents. He kept some of his own notes. As a former Congressional Chief of Staff I see it as a partly a staff error. Trump took whole boxes of Top secret plans in the folders marked TS and he showed them to any random idiot he wanted to impress. Trump constantly made sensitive phone calls on his unsecured personal cell phone. Trump gave classified information to Russian officials in the White House. |