BASIS attrition after middle school- why?

[Anonymous]

One to Walls, one to a private after not getting a spot at Walls.

[Anonymous]

Forget Latin if you're at BASIS unless you have truly spectacular lottery luck. Just not an option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Forget Latin if you're at BASIS unless you have truly spectacular lottery luck. Just not an option.

?? You have just as much of a lottery chance as anyone else playing for Latin after 5th grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dream on. The bad building is here to stay and the franchise doesn’t seem to want a significantly bigger DC HS. Also, just not the case that every BASIS middle school student would be bored at Latin. Far from it, humanities instruction is better overall at, at Latin, particularly language instruction. BASIS middle school students who aren’t ready for 7th grade algebra (many) find greener math pastures at Latin along with better facilities and a happier environment. Comparative PARCC scores don’t tell the whole story.

The bolded, 100%.

[Anonymous]

Looks to me like more than three-quarters of those with lottery luck at both Latins after 5th are pulled in by siblings these days. Very few BASIS students have siblings at Latin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dream on. The bad building is here to stay and the franchise doesn’t seem to want a significantly bigger DC HS. Also, just not the case that every BASIS middle school student would be bored at Latin. Far from it, humanities instruction is better overall at, at Latin, particularly language instruction. BASIS middle school students who aren’t ready for 7th grade algebra (many) find greener math pastures at Latin along with better facilities and a happier environment. Comparative PARCC scores don’t tell the whole story.

The bolded, 100%.

Correct, pie in the sky thinking to think in terms of a better building and a significantly bigger DC HS program in the works. The franchise has been hassled by politicians and the courts in DC like nowhere else. They're adding campuses and buildings in Arizona and Nevada, not here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dream on. The bad building is here to stay and the franchise doesn’t seem to want a significantly bigger DC HS. Also, just not the case that every BASIS middle school student would be bored at Latin. Far from it, humanities instruction is better overall at, at Latin, particularly language instruction. BASIS middle school students who aren’t ready for 7th grade algebra (many) find greener math pastures at Latin along with better facilities and a happier environment. Comparative PARCC scores don’t tell the whole story.

The bolded, 100%.

Correct, pie in the sky thinking to think in terms of a better building and a significantly bigger DC HS program in the works. The franchise has been hassled by politicians and the courts in DC like nowhere else. They're adding campuses and buildings in Arizona and Nevada, not here.

How have they been hassled by the courts?

[Anonymous]

There were a bunch of lawsuits brought by BASIS parents with Sped students in the first five years or so, which mostly settled out of court. It was a big mess that died down eventually. BASIS bumped up support for Sped students over time but emerged from the litigation disinclined to expand in DC by opening a second 5th-12th grade campus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There were a bunch of lawsuits brought by BASIS parents with Sped students in the first five years or so, which mostly settled out of court. It was a big mess that died down eventually. BASIS bumped up support for Sped students over time but emerged from the litigation disinclined to expand in DC by opening a second 5th-12th grade campus.

Bunch of lawsuits? No. There was a DOE investigation, and it was quickly resolved. And, no, they never planned as to open a second 5-12 school. Rather, they wanted to expand to PK-4, which they still do.

[Anonymous]

Yes, there were lawsuits, along with the investigation. Hassles aplenty for Arizona HQ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There were a bunch of lawsuits brought by BASIS parents with Sped students in the first five years or so, which mostly settled out of court. It was a big mess that died down eventually. BASIS bumped up support for Sped students over time but emerged from the litigation disinclined to expand in DC by opening a second 5th-12th grade campus.

Bunch of lawsuits? No. There was a DOE investigation, and it was quickly resolved. And, no, they never planned as to open a second 5-12 school. Rather, they wanted to expand to PK-4, which they still do.

Allowing BASIS to get their hands on pk-4th graders is basically child abuse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There were a bunch of lawsuits brought by BASIS parents with Sped students in the first five years or so, which mostly settled out of court. It was a big mess that died down eventually. BASIS bumped up support for Sped students over time but emerged from the litigation disinclined to expand in DC by opening a second 5th-12th grade campus.

Bunch of lawsuits? No. There was a DOE investigation, and it was quickly resolved. And, no, they never planned as to open a second 5-12 school. Rather, they wanted to expand to PK-4, which they still do.

Allowing BASIS to get their hands on pk-4th graders is basically child abuse.

Oh, c'mon. First, they don't treat 5 year olds the same way they treat 15 year olds. Second, there are a bunch of Basis run elementary schools, so you're implying that they are abusing their students. Thirds, it's not like every DCPS elementary school is educating kids the way they deserve to be educated. Our kids did not enjoy the regular disruptions at their DCPS elementary. The chair throwing in 3rd grade didn't help them emotionally or academically, and this was at a "good" (large share of high SES students) elementary.

[Anonymous]

Every DCPS school has lawsuits too. Its very common.

[Anonymous]

Are: attrition -- I did some research and learned that lots of attrition is common to all BASIS charter school -- the graduating classes is a third to a quarter the size of the incoming class. I think it's expected and part of how they make this model work (a charter that is open to all but where the content is very accelerated and probably appropriate for only a subset.)

Still digesting...

I have a very academically inclined 4th grader and am SO conflicted about where to put this school on the list. In theory he would love it -- learning all that material --but is there something wrong with the execution?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are: attrition -- I did some research and learned that lots of attrition is common to all BASIS charter school -- the graduating classes is a third to a quarter the size of the incoming class. I think it's expected and part of how they make this model work (a charter that is open to all but where the content is very accelerated and probably appropriate for only a subset.)

Still digesting...

I have a very academically inclined 4th grader and am SO conflicted about where to put this school on the list. In theory he would love it -- learning all that material --but is there something wrong with the execution?

They do backfill in other Basis schools. But you have to take a placement test to get in. New applicants may not be admitted for the grade they apply for. That is because Basis generally teaches at a more advanced level than other schools.

At the moment, Basis DC doesn’t backfill at all except for maybe a few sibling applicants in 6th grade.

So, unlike other Basis schools, it is almost impossible to get in after 5th grade. And kids that leave for various reasons aren’t replaced.

I think that the school is great for academic kids. It is absolutely amazing how much my kids have learned.

But do your own research.