War with Iran

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Anonymous wrote:Robert Pape is a UChicago professor and one of the leading experts on air power. He has advised every White House since 2001 (43 W) to 2024 (46 Biden), including Trump 45.

He paints a terrible picture of the war now and the consequences into the future.

Can anyone point to a single academic expert that says the Iran invasion is a good thing?


The Iran War Expert: I Simulated The Iran War for 20 Years. Here’s What Happens Next

Trump IS TRAPPED In Iran Escalation Nightmare

There are a whole bunch of experts saying the Iranians have not used their best missiles and drones. They are still using old and outdated missiles to deplete the air defenses. The next stage of the war will be a lot more destructive in Israel, the gulf states and the US.

Though they have been saying it on long time.
https://youtu.be/pJRmkd3H4DY?si=8h-CZBBj3k8gVrOZ

Air defenses of Israel and US has collapsed
https://www.youtube.com/live/nMjMz8yL_kk?si=5BFBhRX_wkaYX70R

How real and current are these analyses? There is very little info available on what Iranian targets have been hit, but there are numerous sources citing that the numbers of ballistic missile and drone launches by Iran have shrunk dramatically, and that Iran's attacks are already less than 10% of what they were at the beginning of the war. That suggests a significant reduction in Iran's capabilities, whether many stockpiles and launch sites destroyed, command and control significantly degraded and so on. While "experts" are saying one thing about Iran's attack capabilities, the observed evidence seems to be the opposite.

We also don't know the full extent of what Israeli and other targets they did or didn't hit. Israel doesn't seem to be admitting much and if anything are expanding and broadening their strikes and attacks, whether targets in Lebanon or even hitting Basij street checkpoints in downtown Tehran

Bio
Alastair Crooke (born 1949) is a former British diplomat and senior MI6 intelligence officer who founded the Beirut-based Conflicts Forum, which advocates for engaging with political Islam. With decades of experience in the Middle East, he previously advised EU Foreign Policy Chief Javier Solana and facilitated ceasefires during the2000s

Chris Hedges won the 2002 Pulitzer Prize for Explanatory Reporting (or Breaking News Reporting in some contexts) as part of a New York Times team covering global terrorism. He contributed to the paper's coverage of al-Qaeda, utilizing his extensive experience as a foreign correspondent in the Middle East and Balkans

Theodore Postol is Professor of Science, Technology and National Security Policy in the Program in Science, Technology, and Society at MIT. He did his undergraduate work in physics and his graduate work in nuclear engineering at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. After receiving his Ph.D., Dr. Postol joined the staff of Argonne National Laboratory, where he studied the microscopic dynamics and structure of liquids and disordered solids using neutron, x-ray and light scattering, along with computer molecular dynamics techniques. Subsequently he went to the Congressional Office of Technology Assessment to study methods of basing the MX Missile, and later worked as a scientific adviser to the Chief of Naval Operations. After leaving the Pentagon, Dr. Postol helped to build a program at Stanford University to train mid-career scientists to study developments in weapons technology of relevance to defense and arms control policy. In 1990 Dr. Postol was awarded the Leo Szilard Prize from the American Physical Society. In 1995 he received the Hilliard Roderick Prize from the American Association for the Advancement of Science and in 2001 he received the Norbert Wiener Award from Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility for uncovering numerous and important false claims about missile defenses

If they aren't directly addressing the dramatic observed reduction in Iran's offensive capabilities, then they are missing a huge part of the equation and their credibility starts to come into question.

And yet they can’t seem to get the Strait opened or facilitate regime change.

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Anonymous wrote:The Pentagon is moving a Marine expeditionary unit to the Middle East, as Iran steps up its attacks on the Strait of Hormuz, according to two U.S. officials. Expeditionary units typically consist of up to 2,500 Marines.


https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/us-israel-iran-war-news-2026/card/pentagon-sends-marine-expeditionary-unit-to-middle-east-WeoODg0XIIe31W3np2aI?mod=e2tw

Here come the ground troops.

Trump has become George W Bush, getting us into this another Middle Eastern quagmire. Iran will not surrender. He will have to declare victory and unilaterally end the operation.

I was his voter, but he lied about no more wars. He lied about lowering costs. This war is increasing costs. I’m ticked and not voting in November. I hope the Democrats investigate and impeach him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Pentagon is moving a Marine expeditionary unit to the Middle East, as Iran steps up its attacks on the Strait of Hormuz, according to two U.S. officials. Expeditionary units typically consist of up to 2,500 Marines.


https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/us-israel-iran-war-news-2026/card/pentagon-sends-marine-expeditionary-unit-to-middle-east-WeoODg0XIIe31W3np2aI?mod=e2tw

Here come the ground troops.

Trump has become George W Bush, getting us into this another Middle Eastern quagmire. Iran will not surrender. He will have to declare victory and unilaterally end the operation.

I was his voter, but he lied about no more wars. He lied about lowering costs. This war is increasing costs. I’m ticked and not voting in November. I hope the Democrats investigate and impeach him.

What kind of a clown sees everything that is happening and decides not to vote at all? Stop posting, you’re not acting as a citizen and nothing you say matters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Pentagon is moving a Marine expeditionary unit to the Middle East, as Iran steps up its attacks on the Strait of Hormuz, according to two U.S. officials. Expeditionary units typically consist of up to 2,500 Marines.


https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/us-israel-iran-war-news-2026/card/pentagon-sends-marine-expeditionary-unit-to-middle-east-WeoODg0XIIe31W3np2aI?mod=e2tw

Here come the ground troops.

Trump has become George W Bush, getting us into this another Middle Eastern quagmire. Iran will not surrender. He will have to declare victory and unilaterally end the operation.

I was his voter, but he lied about no more wars. He lied about lowering costs. This war is increasing costs. I’m ticked and not voting in November. I hope the Democrats investigate and impeach him.

How could you not realize he's a pathological liar? You're just realizing? Not only is he low IQ (can't form a sentence, has limited vocabulary) but he is the embodiment of evil. Just noticing and won't vote in November??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Pentagon is moving a Marine expeditionary unit to the Middle East, as Iran steps up its attacks on the Strait of Hormuz, according to two U.S. officials. Expeditionary units typically consist of up to 2,500 Marines.


https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/us-israel-iran-war-news-2026/card/pentagon-sends-marine-expeditionary-unit-to-middle-east-WeoODg0XIIe31W3np2aI?mod=e2tw

Here come the ground troops.

Trump has become George W Bush, getting us into this another Middle Eastern quagmire. Iran will not surrender. He will have to declare victory and unilaterally end the operation.

I was his voter, but he lied about no more wars. He lied about lowering costs. This war is increasing costs. I’m ticked and not voting in November. I hope the Democrats investigate and impeach him.

What kind of a clown sees everything that is happening and decides not to vote at all? Stop posting, you’re not acting as a citizen and nothing you say matters.

Not pp but along your line of reasoning based upon what were seeing, the democrats better field a candidate that is anti-AIPAC, anti the funding of Israel. Every war we've been involved in for 35 years is because of Israel. And our national debt has spiraled out of control from then. Desert Shield was in 1990 and Desert Storm was in 1991.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Pentagon is moving a Marine expeditionary unit to the Middle East, as Iran steps up its attacks on the Strait of Hormuz, according to two U.S. officials. Expeditionary units typically consist of up to 2,500 Marines.


https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/us-israel-iran-war-news-2026/card/pentagon-sends-marine-expeditionary-unit-to-middle-east-WeoODg0XIIe31W3np2aI?mod=e2tw

Here come the ground troops.

Trump has become George W Bush, getting us into this another Middle Eastern quagmire. Iran will not surrender. He will have to declare victory and unilaterally end the operation.

I was his voter, but he lied about no more wars. He lied about lowering costs. This war is increasing costs. I’m ticked and not voting in November. I hope the Democrats investigate and impeach him.

What kind of a clown sees everything that is happening and decides not to vote at all? Stop posting, you’re not acting as a citizen and nothing you say matters.

Not pp but along your line of reasoning based upon what were seeing, the democrats better field a candidate that is anti-AIPAC, anti the funding of Israel. Every war we've been involved in for 35 years is because of Israel. And our national debt has spiraled out of control from then. Desert Shield was in 1990 and Desert Storm was in 1991.

I’ll do you one better- I want candidates who are anti-AIPAC and who propose MASSIVE cuts to our military in favor of social spending and repaying the debt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Pentagon is moving a Marine expeditionary unit to the Middle East, as Iran steps up its attacks on the Strait of Hormuz, according to two U.S. officials. Expeditionary units typically consist of up to 2,500 Marines.


https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/us-israel-iran-war-news-2026/card/pentagon-sends-marine-expeditionary-unit-to-middle-east-WeoODg0XIIe31W3np2aI?mod=e2tw

Here come the ground troops.

Trump has become George W Bush, getting us into this another Middle Eastern quagmire. Iran will not surrender. He will have to declare victory and unilaterally end the operation.

I was his voter, but he lied about no more wars. He lied about lowering costs. This war is increasing costs. I’m ticked and not voting in November. I hope the Democrats investigate and impeach him.

What kind of a clown sees everything that is happening and decides not to vote at all? Stop posting, you’re not acting as a citizen and nothing you say matters.

Not pp but along your line of reasoning based upon what were seeing, the democrats better field a candidate that is anti-AIPAC, anti the funding of Israel. Every war we've been involved in for 35 years is because of Israel. And our national debt has spiraled out of control from then. Desert Shield was in 1990 and Desert Storm was in 1991.

This 100%. It's just a repeat of Iraq. Only this time around everyone knows it's Israel's war that we're fighting whereas the general public was pretty clueless before at that time other than a hint when Netanyahu testified in front of Congress.

[Anonymous]

When do we rename it “The Straights of America”?

[Anonymous]

BREAKING: Pentagon to deploy marines to Iran

Scott Bessent shaken from a vall with a President Trump during a TV interview.

Iran rejects ceasefire talks by Rubio. France also asked to relay ceasefire interest to Iran, rejection.

Anthonly Blinken "The Iranians learned showing restrain (last summers war), invites escallation"

God Help Us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Pentagon is moving a Marine expeditionary unit to the Middle East, as Iran steps up its attacks on the Strait of Hormuz, according to two U.S. officials. Expeditionary units typically consist of up to 2,500 Marines.


https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/us-israel-iran-war-news-2026/card/pentagon-sends-marine-expeditionary-unit-to-middle-east-WeoODg0XIIe31W3np2aI?mod=e2tw

Here come the ground troops.

Trump has become George W Bush, getting us into this another Middle Eastern quagmire. Iran will not surrender. He will have to declare victory and unilaterally end the operation.

I was his voter, but he lied about no more wars. He lied about lowering costs. This war is increasing costs. I’m ticked and not voting in November. I hope the Democrats investigate and impeach him.

Except this time no one is buying what they are selling. When the coffins come home and Trump is dancing to YMCA as he meets them and the families, it’s all on him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BREAKING: Pentagon to deploy marines to Iran

Scott Bessent shaken from a vall with a President Trump during a TV interview.

Iran rejects ceasefire talks by Rubio. France also asked to relay ceasefire interest to Iran, rejection.

Anthonly Blinken "The Iranians learned showing restrain (last summers war), invites escallation"

God Help Us.

I don't feel bad for them, most of them signed up with an eager urge to murder brown foreigners for sport. Unfortunately, if they die, it will be for the sake of the Israeli regime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BREAKING: Pentagon to deploy marines to Iran

Scott Bessent shaken from a vall with a President Trump during a TV interview.

Iran rejects ceasefire talks by Rubio. France also asked to relay ceasefire interest to Iran, rejection.

Anthonly Blinken "The Iranians learned showing restrain (last summers war), invites escallation"

God Help Us.

I don't feel bad for them, most of them signed up with an eager urge to murder brown foreigners for sport. Unfortunately, if they die, it will be for the sake of the Israeli regime.

100%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Robert Pape is a UChicago professor and one of the leading experts on air power. He has advised every White House since 2001 (43 W) to 2024 (46 Biden), including Trump 45.

He paints a terrible picture of the war now and the consequences into the future.

Can anyone point to a single academic expert that says the Iran invasion is a good thing?


The Iran War Expert: I Simulated The Iran War for 20 Years. Here’s What Happens Next

Trump IS TRAPPED In Iran Escalation Nightmare

There are a whole bunch of experts saying the Iranians have not used their best missiles and drones. They are still using old and outdated missiles to deplete the air defenses. The next stage of the war will be a lot more destructive in Israel, the gulf states and the US.

Though they have been saying it on long time.
https://youtu.be/pJRmkd3H4DY?si=8h-CZBBj3k8gVrOZ

Air defenses of Israel and US has collapsed
https://www.youtube.com/live/nMjMz8yL_kk?si=5BFBhRX_wkaYX70R

How real and current are these analyses? There is very little info available on what Iranian targets have been hit, but there are numerous sources citing that the numbers of ballistic missile and drone launches by Iran have shrunk dramatically, and that Iran's attacks are already less than 10% of what they were at the beginning of the war. That suggests a significant reduction in Iran's capabilities, whether many stockpiles and launch sites destroyed, command and control significantly degraded and so on. While "experts" are saying one thing about Iran's attack capabilities, the observed evidence seems to be the opposite.

We also don't know the full extent of what Israeli and other targets they did or didn't hit. Israel doesn't seem to be admitting much and if anything are expanding and broadening their strikes and attacks, whether targets in Lebanon or even hitting Basij street checkpoints in downtown Tehran

This is very real. Look up the bio of the speakers.

The inceptors are lucky if they get a 25% success rate. Anything above Mach 4 or with multiple wars heads, terminal stage maneuverability or decoys gets through. The larger number of drones and missiles used earlier in the war was planned. They used cheap older drones and ballistic missiles to use up US, gulf states and Israel interceptors. Even this stuff got through.

They also knocked out long range radar at American bases. These were the early warning radars. This is a key component of the US military air defense. It takes Iranian ballistic missiles 5-12 minutes hit American gulf bases and 7-15 minutes to hit Israel. Without these radars the engagement time for US and Israel is cut in half.

Now the Iranians are starting using their multi warhead missiles, their more sophisticated drones, etc. The Iranians can hit anything they want in the gulf and missiles are getting through Israeli air defense. If you look at the Hebrew language media you will get a picture of what is going on.

This is exactly what the Russians did to the Ukrainian air defenses when they invaded Ukraine. It’s a playbook. The Iranians are not stupid. They know they win if the gulf oil is shut down

Yes less Iranian missiles and drones are being launched but now ask the other question. Do you have to fire double the interceptors to achieve the same interception percentage?

The bottom line is that more innovation is needed where it comes to interceptor tech. Ukraine has been working hard at that. We on the other hand continue to shovel trillions into the bottomless pit of big military contractors who give us solutions like $15 million missiles to intercept a $30,000 drone.

As for their multi-warhead missiles, they are blunt instruments. Those multiple warheads aren't guided and just fall randomly. Far more likely they hit a bush or a parking lot than a legitimate military target. They are also much smaller warheads than their regular missiles, and as such aren't capable of taking out anything hardened, or anything that's a bigger military target, they are more instruments designed for attempting to terrorize and broadly harm civilians than for actually taking out high value military targets. I'm also not seeing much additional sophistication in the latest rounds of drones, either.

You are wrong. The US and Soviets(now Russia) have been working on this for over 80 years.

The problem is this. You have 20 missiles incoming. 5 are the threat with terminal phase maneuverability, 5 have slightly smaller warhead( maybe 1,500 pound of explosives) and 20 decoys each, 5 are multiple guide missiles with 20 warheads weighing 300-500 pounds, 3 are jammers set to your radar frequency and two are locked in on your radar. All the decoys also kick out chaff. Everything is traveling at 3-4,000 mph.

Now you are trying to shoot down 100 plus missiles. Your sensors can not tell the difference between these missiles. The ones with terminal phase maneuverability can avoid the interceptors.

Now do this exercise with 100 in bound missiles and 300 drones all time to arrive at the same time. And another 100 coming in 1-2 minutes later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BREAKING: Pentagon to deploy marines to Iran

Scott Bessent shaken from a vall with a President Trump during a TV interview.

Iran rejects ceasefire talks by Rubio. France also asked to relay ceasefire interest to Iran, rejection.

Anthonly Blinken "The Iranians learned showing restrain (last summers war), invites escallation"

God Help Us.

Yep the US and Israel are bad actors. Religious fanatic with nuclear bombs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BREAKING: Pentagon to deploy marines to Iran

Scott Bessent shaken from a vall with a President Trump during a TV interview.

Iran rejects ceasefire talks by Rubio. France also asked to relay ceasefire interest to Iran, rejection.

Anthonly Blinken "The Iranians learned showing restrain (last summers war), invites escallation"

God Help Us.

This is so stupid. They're being used as cannon fodder. Probably in order to justify more boots on the ground and a full scale ground war.

Why announce this and say when, where, and how they will be arriving? As if Iran won't be able to target these ships.