Shooting at Dallas ICE Facility

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Anonymous wrote:The absolute refusal of people on the left (and I say this as a moderate Democrat) to accept that they have a political violence problem like the right has a political violence problem is upsetting.

This guy was a leftist shooter. You look idiotic claiming anything else. Face reality, please.


His family said he's not. You look like the idiot.


You believe that? Come on. Use your head.


He shot indiscriminately. He was just trying to kill people. There was no cogent ideology. These people are just nuts. Does the US have a violence problem? Yes. Do we have an angry you men problem? Yes. It is unique to the left side of the political spectrum? No it is not.


Of course it isn’t unique to the left side of the spectrum. The right has a political violence issue too, with the same demographic. But the flat-out denialism from people on the left as to the existence of political violence on the left is aggravating. At a minimum it is extremely alienating to large swaths of the population. No one except cultists will believe that this shooter wasn’t politically aligned with the left.


There is no evidence of his political alignment with the left. Do you care about gun violence or do you care about winning points against the left? Because people like you seem way more worried about the political ideology of a murderer than you do about doing something to prevent murders like this from happening. Stop being disingenuous.


I don't see republicans protesting against ICE. It's an houly event with democrats, however. So we know who aligns with who.

He was politically aligned with democrats. Wanted to harm ICE personnel. Period.


We were told that ICE would round up violent MS-13 and Tren de Aragua gang members, But that hasn't happened. We haven't seen any such mass roundups of gangs announced in the news. We were told that the border would be sealed and that violent murderers and rapists would be rounded up and eliminated. Yet the number of stories about illegals raping and murdering has not decreased, but increased, and they are clearly still coming in, and instead of rounding up those violent criminals, ICE is rounding up hard-working people who lay tile and drywall, moms, short order cooks who have nary a parking ticket to their name. And worse yet, ICE has been unaccountable, rounding up people who are here legally, even citizens, concealing their identity, refusing to identify themselves, refusing to produce warrants, while there's a rise in criminals disguised as ICE who are kidnapping, assaulting and robbing people with virtually no response from this government even after they created the environment for this. It's a trainwreck full of failures and broken promises. And for some reason Republicans remain aligned to that trainwreck.


So much wrong information.
First, it sounds as if you are justifying the targeting of ICE agents. That is disgusting.

Secondly, this administration never said they would limit their arrests to criminals and gang members. But, if you think that it is NOT happening, you havene't been paying attention. Each day, I see at least 5 posts of criminal aliens who have been arrested for murder, rape, rape of a child, assault, gang membership, or a variety of other crimes. These are just the posts I see. I am sure there are many more.
And, the border has been sealed. You're welcome. There have been zero releases into the US the past 4 months.

ICE is NOT rounding up citizens. If citizens are arrested it is because they are impeding arrest of others - a crime.

YOU, my dear, have to understand that Biden was derelict in his duty of protecting our border. He allowed in MILLIONS - let's say 10 million - a pretty conservative number because it is likely much much larger. We know many of them are criminals. Let's just say that 5% of those entering were criminals. that is 500,000 people that have to be found. That takes time. Add to that the 300,000 children the Biden administration lost which our law enforcement is searching for..... they have a lot to do. They have found about 25,000 of those kids.

So, quit justifying the targeting of ICE and CBP who are just doing their jobs. There is NO justification or excuse.


+1 million. Preach!
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Anonymous wrote:The absolute refusal of people on the left (and I say this as a moderate Democrat) to accept that they have a political violence problem like the right has a political violence problem is upsetting.

This guy was a leftist shooter. You look idiotic claiming anything else. Face reality, please.


His family said he's not. You look like the idiot.


You believe that? Come on. Use your head.


He shot indiscriminately. He was just trying to kill people. There was no cogent ideology. These people are just nuts. Does the US have a violence problem? Yes. Do we have an angry you men problem? Yes. It is unique to the left side of the political spectrum? No it is not.


Of course it isn’t unique to the left side of the spectrum. The right has a political violence issue too, with the same demographic. But the flat-out denialism from people on the left as to the existence of political violence on the left is aggravating. At a minimum it is extremely alienating to large swaths of the population. No one except cultists will believe that this shooter wasn’t politically aligned with the left.


There is no evidence of his political alignment with the left. Do you care about gun violence or do you care about winning points against the left? Because people like you seem way more worried about the political ideology of a murderer than you do about doing something to prevent murders like this from happening. Stop being disingenuous.


I don't see republicans protesting against ICE. It's an houly event with democrats, however. So we know who aligns with who.

He was politically aligned with democrats. Wanted to harm ICE personnel. Period.


We were told that ICE would round up violent MS-13 and Tren de Aragua gang members, But that hasn't happened. We haven't seen any such mass roundups of gangs announced in the news. We were told that the border would be sealed and that violent murderers and rapists would be rounded up and eliminated. Yet the number of stories about illegals raping and murdering has not decreased, but increased, and they are clearly still coming in, and instead of rounding up those violent criminals, ICE is rounding up hard-working people who lay tile and drywall, moms, short order cooks who have nary a parking ticket to their name. And worse yet, ICE has been unaccountable, rounding up people who are here legally, even citizens, concealing their identity, refusing to identify themselves, refusing to produce warrants, while there's a rise in criminals disguised as ICE who are kidnapping, assaulting and robbing people with virtually no response from this government even after they created the environment for this. It's a trainwreck full of failures and broken promises. And for some reason Republicans remain aligned to that trainwreck.


So much wrong information.
First, it sounds as if you are justifying the targeting of ICE agents. That is disgusting.

Secondly, this administration never said they would limit their arrests to criminals and gang members. But, if you think that it is NOT happening, you havene't been paying attention. Each day, I see at least 5 posts of criminal aliens who have been arrested for murder, rape, rape of a child, assault, gang membership, or a variety of other crimes. These are just the posts I see. I am sure there are many more.
And, the border has been sealed. You're welcome. There have been zero releases into the US the past 4 months.

ICE is NOT rounding up citizens. If citizens are arrested it is because they are impeding arrest of others - a crime.

YOU, my dear, have to understand that Biden was derelict in his duty of protecting our border. He allowed in MILLIONS - let's say 10 million - a pretty conservative number because it is likely much much larger. We know many of them are criminals. Let's just say that 5% of those entering were criminals. that is 500,000 people that have to be found. That takes time. Add to that the 300,000 children the Biden administration lost which our law enforcement is searching for..... they have a lot to do. They have found about 25,000 of those kids.

So, quit justifying the targeting of ICE and CBP who are just doing their jobs. There is NO justification or excuse.


No one is supporting the targeting of ICE Agents, stop with the gaslighting. At the same time, what the PP posted is true. ICE is rounding up citizens, legal green crrd holders and others here legally, because they are just rounding up Latinos without warrents or anything other than profiling. If you are not aware of this, then you need new sources of information.

Also, this whole event is pretext:
https://newrepublic.com/article/200976/trump-texas-ice-shooting-crackdown

Steve Bannon tells the reporter he fully expects Trump to use the Texas ICE office shooting as the hook to unleash law enforcement on liberal immigration groups by connecting political violence to anti-ICE rhetoric.

This is going to get ugly

Stephen Miller tweeted that calling ICE authoritarian "incites violence and terrorism." This wasn't just the usual fascist bluster. It was a signal.

the reporter asked Bannon if Miller will seek to prosecute groups that use this language about ICE

Read the exchange in the link above.

Connect the dots. First Trump/Miller associate Texas ICE shooting with liberal *groups* and anti-ICE *rhetoric.* Then they announce they will investigate/prosecute groups that they can somehow link to political violence. The Texas shooting is becoming the pretext

Are you ok with the government simply going after people for political views or because the "look" Latino? It certainly sounds like it.

What happened to "don't tread on me" and "individual rights" and "the Constitution and free speech?"


I don’t care about Steve bannon’s musings and I don’t read the New Republican. Steve Bannon is not part of this administration.
And yes, the left is absolutely targeting ICE agents. Do some fricking research


If you do not understand Steve Bannon's influence on the administration, that is you keeping your head in the sand. Meanwhile, ICE agents doing this to an American citizen without cause is perfectly acceptable to you

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Anonymous wrote:The absolute refusal of people on the left (and I say this as a moderate Democrat) to accept that they have a political violence problem like the right has a political violence problem is upsetting.

This guy was a leftist shooter. You look idiotic claiming anything else. Face reality, please.


His family said he's not. You look like the idiot.


You believe that? Come on. Use your head.


He shot indiscriminately. He was just trying to kill people. There was no cogent ideology. These people are just nuts. Does the US have a violence problem? Yes. Do we have an angry you men problem? Yes. It is unique to the left side of the political spectrum? No it is not.


Of course it isn’t unique to the left side of the spectrum. The right has a political violence issue too, with the same demographic. But the flat-out denialism from people on the left as to the existence of political violence on the left is aggravating. At a minimum it is extremely alienating to large swaths of the population. No one except cultists will believe that this shooter wasn’t politically aligned with the left.


There is no evidence of his political alignment with the left. Do you care about gun violence or do you care about winning points against the left? Because people like you seem way more worried about the political ideology of a murderer than you do about doing something to prevent murders like this from happening. Stop being disingenuous.


I don't see republicans protesting against ICE. It's an houly event with democrats, however. So we know who aligns with who.

He was politically aligned with democrats. Wanted to harm ICE personnel. Period.


We were told that ICE would round up violent MS-13 and Tren de Aragua gang members, But that hasn't happened. We haven't seen any such mass roundups of gangs announced in the news. We were told that the border would be sealed and that violent murderers and rapists would be rounded up and eliminated. Yet the number of stories about illegals raping and murdering has not decreased, but increased, and they are clearly still coming in, and instead of rounding up those violent criminals, ICE is rounding up hard-working people who lay tile and drywall, moms, short order cooks who have nary a parking ticket to their name. And worse yet, ICE has been unaccountable, rounding up people who are here legally, even citizens, concealing their identity, refusing to identify themselves, refusing to produce warrants, while there's a rise in criminals disguised as ICE who are kidnapping, assaulting and robbing people with virtually no response from this government even after they created the environment for this. It's a trainwreck full of failures and broken promises. And for some reason Republicans remain aligned to that trainwreck.


So much wrong information.
First, it sounds as if you are justifying the targeting of ICE agents. That is disgusting.

Secondly, this administration never said they would limit their arrests to criminals and gang members. But, if you think that it is NOT happening, you havene't been paying attention. Each day, I see at least 5 posts of criminal aliens who have been arrested for murder, rape, rape of a child, assault, gang membership, or a variety of other crimes. These are just the posts I see. I am sure there are many more.
And, the border has been sealed. You're welcome. There have been zero releases into the US the past 4 months.

ICE is NOT rounding up citizens. If citizens are arrested it is because they are impeding arrest of others - a crime.

YOU, my dear, have to understand that Biden was derelict in his duty of protecting our border. He allowed in MILLIONS - let's say 10 million - a pretty conservative number because it is likely much much larger. We know many of them are criminals. Let's just say that 5% of those entering were criminals. that is 500,000 people that have to be found. That takes time. Add to that the 300,000 children the Biden administration lost which our law enforcement is searching for..... they have a lot to do. They have found about 25,000 of those kids.

So, quit justifying the targeting of ICE and CBP who are just doing their jobs. There is NO justification or excuse.


If there are so many millions of "illegals" that Biden allowed into the country, then why is ICE rounding up people who are here legally and US citizens and green card holders?

Maybe, just like the "election hoax" that fox paid 3/4 of a billion dollars to cover the lie on that, this was a lie too? Because with that many illegals in the country, ICE should not have to bother with people who are here legally.
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Dems to Their Base: We Need to Take Action Against These Nazi ICE Terrorists

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Anonymous wrote:Dems to Their Base: We Need to Take Action Against These Nazi ICE Terrorists



Because they are terrorists. If you are not living in a community where they are operating, then it is really easy to be a keyboard warrior. They are acting outside the law, and in many cases in a very violent manner.
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Anonymous wrote:Dems to Their Base: We Need to Take Action Against These Nazi ICE Terrorists



Because they are terrorists. If you are not living in a community where they are operating, then it is really easy to be a keyboard warrior. They are acting outside the law, and in many cases in a very violent manner.

False. They are operating all across the nation. You don’t hear about the arrests and raids in Arkansas or Tennessee or many other states because these people know they are doing things to make their communities safer and aren’t out protesting as part of the resistance.
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Anonymous wrote:Dems to Their Base: We Need to Take Action Against These Nazi ICE Terrorists



Because they are terrorists. If you are not living in a community where they are operating, then it is really easy to be a keyboard warrior. They are acting outside the law, and in many cases in a very violent manner.

False. They are operating all across the nation. You don’t hear about the arrests and raids in Arkansas or Tennessee or many other states because these people know they are doing things to make their communities safer and aren’t out protesting as part of the resistance.



Hmmm, I just googled ICE and Tennessee and I see all sorts of videos of masked ICE agents acting violently and facing backlash as a result. Thanks for the tip. I look up Arkansas next.
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Even the Assistant Homeland Secretary disagrees with the MAGAs on this thread who are defending ICE thuggary:

In a genuine WOW moment, this administration publicly acknowledges (perhaps for the first time) that an ICE officer violated procedure and will be taken off duty and subject to an investigation. This is a step in the right direction — I just wish it wasn't only because of such an awful viral video.
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Anonymous wrote:The absolute refusal of people on the left (and I say this as a moderate Democrat) to accept that they have a political violence problem like the right has a political violence problem is upsetting.

This guy was a leftist shooter. You look idiotic claiming anything else. Face reality, please.


His family said he's not. You look like the idiot.


You believe that? Come on. Use your head.


He shot indiscriminately. He was just trying to kill people. There was no cogent ideology. These people are just nuts. Does the US have a violence problem? Yes. Do we have an angry you men problem? Yes. It is unique to the left side of the political spectrum? No it is not.


Of course it isn’t unique to the left side of the spectrum. The right has a political violence issue too, with the same demographic. But the flat-out denialism from people on the left as to the existence of political violence on the left is aggravating. At a minimum it is extremely alienating to large swaths of the population. No one except cultists will believe that this shooter wasn’t politically aligned with the left.


There is no evidence of his political alignment with the left. Do you care about gun violence or do you care about winning points against the left? Because people like you seem way more worried about the political ideology of a murderer than you do about doing something to prevent murders like this from happening. Stop being disingenuous.


I don't see republicans protesting against ICE. It's an houly event with democrats, however. So we know who aligns with who.

He was politically aligned with democrats. Wanted to harm ICE personnel. Period.


We were told that ICE would round up violent MS-13 and Tren de Aragua gang members, But that hasn't happened. We haven't seen any such mass roundups of gangs announced in the news. We were told that the border would be sealed and that violent murderers and rapists would be rounded up and eliminated. Yet the number of stories about illegals raping and murdering has not decreased, but increased, and they are clearly still coming in, and instead of rounding up those violent criminals, ICE is rounding up hard-working people who lay tile and drywall, moms, short order cooks who have nary a parking ticket to their name. And worse yet, ICE has been unaccountable, rounding up people who are here legally, even citizens, concealing their identity, refusing to identify themselves, refusing to produce warrants, while there's a rise in criminals disguised as ICE who are kidnapping, assaulting and robbing people with virtually no response from this government even after they created the environment for this. It's a trainwreck full of failures and broken promises. And for some reason Republicans remain aligned to that trainwreck.


So much wrong information.
First, it sounds as if you are justifying the targeting of ICE agents. That is disgusting.

Secondly, this administration never said they would limit their arrests to criminals and gang members. But, if you think that it is NOT happening, you havene't been paying attention. Each day, I see at least 5 posts of criminal aliens who have been arrested for murder, rape, rape of a child, assault, gang membership, or a variety of other crimes. These are just the posts I see. I am sure there are many more.
And, the border has been sealed. You're welcome. There have been zero releases into the US the past 4 months.

ICE is NOT rounding up citizens. If citizens are arrested it is because they are impeding arrest of others - a crime.

YOU, my dear, have to understand that Biden was derelict in his duty of protecting our border. He allowed in MILLIONS - let's say 10 million - a pretty conservative number because it is likely much much larger. We know many of them are criminals. Let's just say that 5% of those entering were criminals. that is 500,000 people that have to be found. That takes time. Add to that the 300,000 children the Biden administration lost which our law enforcement is searching for..... they have a lot to do. They have found about 25,000 of those kids.

So, quit justifying the targeting of ICE and CBP who are just doing their jobs. There is NO justification or excuse.


+1 million. Preach!


You guys are such gaslighters. We are not "targeting ICE and CBP." Let me say this clearly: all political violence is wrong. Always.

Speaking out is not "targeting." It is protected by the first amendment and, in a great many cases, the morally just thing to do.

So, let me speak out about a few points:
*stop selling so many guns.
*stop raising young men in this horrible gun culture and influencing the gamer world with nihilistic alt-right philosophies.
*and stop acting like the Gestapo and the Nazis
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Anonymous wrote:Even the Assistant Homeland Secretary disagrees with the MAGAs on this thread who are defending ICE thuggary:

In a genuine WOW moment, this administration publicly acknowledges (perhaps for the first time) that an ICE officer violated procedure and will be taken off duty and subject to an investigation. This is a step in the right direction — I just wish it wasn't only because of such an awful viral video.


citation?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dems to Their Base: We Need to Take Action Against These Nazi ICE Terrorists



Because they are terrorists. If you are not living in a community where they are operating, then it is really easy to be a keyboard warrior. They are acting outside the law, and in many cases in a very violent manner.

False. They are operating all across the nation. You don’t hear about the arrests and raids in Arkansas or Tennessee or many other states because these people know they are doing things to make their communities safer and aren’t out protesting as part of the resistance.


You mean like this one in vermont?

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/09/26/vermont-canada-border-towns-donald-trump-00579592

.. This is a rural area, farming, and a big number of people are highly conservative and Republican,” Barrera said. “But there is a contradiction, because if you talk to the farmers, they will tell you they need that labor.”
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Anonymous wrote:Even the Assistant Homeland Secretary disagrees with the MAGAs on this thread who are defending ICE thuggary:

In a genuine WOW moment, this administration publicly acknowledges (perhaps for the first time) that an ICE officer violated procedure and will be taken off duty and subject to an investigation. This is a step in the right direction — I just wish it wasn't only because of such an awful viral video.


Animals.

And, once again, in immigration court. Detaining the ones following the rules.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would someone target an ICE detention facility in Texas to find an illegal immigrant? You can throw a rock in the air randomly in Texas, and chances are it'll hit an illegal when it lands. Why target a secure facility if your goal is to shoot illegals? It makes zero sense. It was very obviously done to kill ICE agents, and the shooter screwed everything up.


Why are we expending so much energy to understand the motives of a crazy person? It never makes sense to shoot up a bunch of people. The decision is always going to have some kind of logical hole in it, whether you look at it from the left or the right, because IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.


- except all the recent violence has come from people who identify with just one side of the isle: the Democrats.


The Utah shooter was NOT a Democrat.


But he WAS leftist


No, he was a Nihlist. Not the same thing.


He was a MAGA. He was trying to kill detainees, not ICE officers.
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Anonymous wrote:I do not understand why maga is fighting maga. First the Kirk thing and now this attack.


Because they are stupid. They can’t even get along with their fellow maga trash.
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