Shooting at Dallas ICE Facility

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Anonymous wrote:Even the Assistant Homeland Secretary disagrees with the MAGAs on this thread who are defending ICE thuggary:

In a genuine WOW moment, this administration publicly acknowledges (perhaps for the first time) that an ICE officer violated procedure and will be taken off duty and subject to an investigation. This is a step in the right direction — I just wish it wasn't only because of such an awful viral video.

citation?

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Anonymous wrote:Dems to Their Base: We Need to Take Action Against These Nazi ICE Terrorists

Because they are terrorists. If you are not living in a community where they are operating, then it is really easy to be a keyboard warrior. They are acting outside the law, and in many cases in a very violent manner.

False. They are operating all across the nation. You don’t hear about the arrests and raids in Arkansas or Tennessee or many other states because these people know they are doing things to make their communities safer and aren’t out protesting as part of the resistance.

You mean like this one in vermont?

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/09/26/vermont-canada-border-towns-donald-trump-00579592

.. This is a rural area, farming, and a big number of people are highly conservative and Republican,” Barrera said. “But there is a contradiction, because if you talk to the farmers, they will tell you they need that labor.”

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Anonymous wrote:Even the Assistant Homeland Secretary disagrees with the MAGAs on this thread who are defending ICE thuggary:

In a genuine WOW moment, this administration publicly acknowledges (perhaps for the first time) that an ICE officer violated procedure and will be taken off duty and subject to an investigation. This is a step in the right direction — I just wish it wasn't only because of such an awful viral video.

Animals.

And, once again, in immigration court. Detaining the ones following the rules.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would someone target an ICE detention facility in Texas to find an illegal immigrant? You can throw a rock in the air randomly in Texas, and chances are it'll hit an illegal when it lands. Why target a secure facility if your goal is to shoot illegals? It makes zero sense. It was very obviously done to kill ICE agents, and the shooter screwed everything up.

Why are we expending so much energy to understand the motives of a crazy person? It never makes sense to shoot up a bunch of people. The decision is always going to have some kind of logical hole in it, whether you look at it from the left or the right, because IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

- except all the recent violence has come from people who identify with just one side of the isle: the Democrats.

The Utah shooter was NOT a Democrat.

But he WAS leftist

No, he was a Nihlist. Not the same thing.

He was a MAGA. He was trying to kill detainees, not ICE officers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do not understand why maga is fighting maga. First the Kirk thing and now this attack.

Because they are stupid. They can’t even get along with their fellow maga trash.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would someone target an ICE detention facility in Texas to find an illegal immigrant? You can throw a rock in the air randomly in Texas, and chances are it'll hit an illegal when it lands. Why target a secure facility if your goal is to shoot illegals? It makes zero sense. It was very obviously done to kill ICE agents, and the shooter screwed everything up.

Why are we expending so much energy to understand the motives of a crazy person? It never makes sense to shoot up a bunch of people. The decision is always going to have some kind of logical hole in it, whether you look at it from the left or the right, because IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

- except all the recent violence has come from people who identify with just one side of the isle: the Democrats.

The Utah shooter was NOT a Democrat.

But he WAS leftist

No, he was a Nihlist. Not the same thing.

He was a MAGA. He was trying to kill detainees, not ICE officers.

Right wing accelerationists like Boogaloo Bois are all about nihilism.

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A fact that the left will ignore…..

During the attack on the ICE facility, ICE agents - you know - those Nazis and Gestapo as you call them - risked their lives while bullets were flying to get detainees to safety.

#NEW: Sources share surveillance footage with me of the Dallas ICE facility showing ICE agents taking cover and protecting detainees as bullets fly everywhere. Agents are seen ducking behind two transportation vans while quickly shuffling detainees inside the facility, where an ICE agent frantically guides the shackled detainees down a hallway. Officials say they hope people will see that the agents were heroic, clearly willing to risk their lives to save the detainees, rather than focus on dangerous anti-ICE rhetoric. I’ve spoken with sources who are agents at the field office and they say they’re upset, devastated, and frustrated that the public can’t see they are just doing their jobs and protecting the community.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would someone target an ICE detention facility in Texas to find an illegal immigrant? You can throw a rock in the air randomly in Texas, and chances are it'll hit an illegal when it lands. Why target a secure facility if your goal is to shoot illegals? It makes zero sense. It was very obviously done to kill ICE agents, and the shooter screwed everything up.

Why are we expending so much energy to understand the motives of a crazy person? It never makes sense to shoot up a bunch of people. The decision is always going to have some kind of logical hole in it, whether you look at it from the left or the right, because IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

- except all the recent violence has come from people who identify with just one side of the isle: the Democrats.

The Utah shooter was NOT a Democrat.

But he WAS leftist

No, he was a Nihlist. Not the same thing.

He was a MAGA. He was trying to kill detainees, not ICE officers.

You are either is informed or an idiot. Authorities have released the contents of notes the killer left. He has been planning this attack for a while and wanted to “terrorize” ICE agents.

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Anonymous wrote:The absolute refusal of people on the left (and I say this as a moderate Democrat) to accept that they have a political violence problem like the right has a political violence problem is upsetting.

This guy was a leftist shooter. You look idiotic claiming anything else. Face reality, please.

His family said he's not. You look like the idiot.

You believe that? Come on. Use your head.

He shot indiscriminately. He was just trying to kill people. There was no cogent ideology. These people are just nuts. Does the US have a violence problem? Yes. Do we have an angry you men problem? Yes. It is unique to the left side of the political spectrum? No it is not.

Of course it isn’t unique to the left side of the spectrum. The right has a political violence issue too, with the same demographic. But the flat-out denialism from people on the left as to the existence of political violence on the left is aggravating. At a minimum it is extremely alienating to large swaths of the population. No one except cultists will believe that this shooter wasn’t politically aligned with the left.

There is no evidence of his political alignment with the left. Do you care about gun violence or do you care about winning points against the left? Because people like you seem way more worried about the political ideology of a murderer than you do about doing something to prevent murders like this from happening. Stop being disingenuous.

I don't see republicans protesting against ICE. It's an houly event with democrats, however. So we know who aligns with who.

He was politically aligned with democrats. Wanted to harm ICE personnel. Period.

We were told that ICE would round up violent MS-13 and Tren de Aragua gang members, But that hasn't happened. We haven't seen any such mass roundups of gangs announced in the news. We were told that the border would be sealed and that violent murderers and rapists would be rounded up and eliminated. Yet the number of stories about illegals raping and murdering has not decreased, but increased, and they are clearly still coming in, and instead of rounding up those violent criminals, ICE is rounding up hard-working people who lay tile and drywall, moms, short order cooks who have nary a parking ticket to their name. And worse yet, ICE has been unaccountable, rounding up people who are here legally, even citizens, concealing their identity, refusing to identify themselves, refusing to produce warrants, while there's a rise in criminals disguised as ICE who are kidnapping, assaulting and robbing people with virtually no response from this government even after they created the environment for this. It's a trainwreck full of failures and broken promises. And for some reason Republicans remain aligned to that trainwreck.

So much wrong information.
First, it sounds as if you are justifying the targeting of ICE agents. That is disgusting.

Secondly, this administration never said they would limit their arrests to criminals and gang members. But, if you think that it is NOT happening, you havene't been paying attention. Each day, I see at least 5 posts of criminal aliens who have been arrested for murder, rape, rape of a child, assault, gang membership, or a variety of other crimes. These are just the posts I see. I am sure there are many more.
And, the border has been sealed. You're welcome. There have been zero releases into the US the past 4 months.

ICE is NOT rounding up citizens. If citizens are arrested it is because they are impeding arrest of others - a crime.

YOU, my dear, have to understand that Biden was derelict in his duty of protecting our border. He allowed in MILLIONS - let's say 10 million - a pretty conservative number because it is likely much much larger. We know many of them are criminals. Let's just say that 5% of those entering were criminals. that is 500,000 people that have to be found. That takes time. Add to that the 300,000 children the Biden administration lost which our law enforcement is searching for..... they have a lot to do. They have found about 25,000 of those kids.

So, quit justifying the targeting of ICE and CBP who are just doing their jobs. There is NO justification or excuse.

No one is supporting the targeting of ICE Agents, stop with the gaslighting. At the same time, what the PP posted is true. ICE is rounding up citizens, legal green crrd holders and others here legally, because they are just rounding up Latinos without warrents or anything other than profiling. If you are not aware of this, then you need new sources of information.

Also, this whole event is pretext:
https://newrepublic.com/article/200976/trump-texas-ice-shooting-crackdown

Steve Bannon tells the reporter he fully expects Trump to use the Texas ICE office shooting as the hook to unleash law enforcement on liberal immigration groups by connecting political violence to anti-ICE rhetoric.

This is going to get ugly

Stephen Miller tweeted that calling ICE authoritarian "incites violence and terrorism." This wasn't just the usual fascist bluster. It was a signal.

the reporter asked Bannon if Miller will seek to prosecute groups that use this language about ICE

Read the exchange in the link above.

Connect the dots. First Trump/Miller associate Texas ICE shooting with liberal *groups* and anti-ICE *rhetoric.* Then they announce they will investigate/prosecute groups that they can somehow link to political violence. The Texas shooting is becoming the pretext

Are you ok with the government simply going after people for political views or because the "look" Latino? It certainly sounds like it.

What happened to "don't tread on me" and "individual rights" and "the Constitution and free speech?"

“No on is supporting the targeting of ICE agents” you say.
Bullshit.

Anti-ICE crowd chants “Arrest ICE!” and “Shoot ICE!” towards agents at the ICE facility in Broadview, IL.

One guy takes it further by adding, “Shoot the f***ers! Shoot the f***ers!”

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Anonymous wrote:The absolute refusal of people on the left (and I say this as a moderate Democrat) to accept that they have a political violence problem like the right has a political violence problem is upsetting.

This guy was a leftist shooter. You look idiotic claiming anything else. Face reality, please.

His family said he's not. You look like the idiot.

You believe that? Come on. Use your head.

He shot indiscriminately. He was just trying to kill people. There was no cogent ideology. These people are just nuts. Does the US have a violence problem? Yes. Do we have an angry you men problem? Yes. It is unique to the left side of the political spectrum? No it is not.

Of course it isn’t unique to the left side of the spectrum. The right has a political violence issue too, with the same demographic. But the flat-out denialism from people on the left as to the existence of political violence on the left is aggravating. At a minimum it is extremely alienating to large swaths of the population. No one except cultists will believe that this shooter wasn’t politically aligned with the left.

There is no evidence of his political alignment with the left. Do you care about gun violence or do you care about winning points against the left? Because people like you seem way more worried about the political ideology of a murderer than you do about doing something to prevent murders like this from happening. Stop being disingenuous.

I don't see republicans protesting against ICE. It's an houly event with democrats, however. So we know who aligns with who.

He was politically aligned with democrats. Wanted to harm ICE personnel. Period.

We were told that ICE would round up violent MS-13 and Tren de Aragua gang members, But that hasn't happened. We haven't seen any such mass roundups of gangs announced in the news. We were told that the border would be sealed and that violent murderers and rapists would be rounded up and eliminated. Yet the number of stories about illegals raping and murdering has not decreased, but increased, and they are clearly still coming in, and instead of rounding up those violent criminals, ICE is rounding up hard-working people who lay tile and drywall, moms, short order cooks who have nary a parking ticket to their name. And worse yet, ICE has been unaccountable, rounding up people who are here legally, even citizens, concealing their identity, refusing to identify themselves, refusing to produce warrants, while there's a rise in criminals disguised as ICE who are kidnapping, assaulting and robbing people with virtually no response from this government even after they created the environment for this. It's a trainwreck full of failures and broken promises. And for some reason Republicans remain aligned to that trainwreck.

So much wrong information.
First, it sounds as if you are justifying the targeting of ICE agents. That is disgusting.

Secondly, this administration never said they would limit their arrests to criminals and gang members. But, if you think that it is NOT happening, you havene't been paying attention. Each day, I see at least 5 posts of criminal aliens who have been arrested for murder, rape, rape of a child, assault, gang membership, or a variety of other crimes. These are just the posts I see. I am sure there are many more.
And, the border has been sealed. You're welcome. There have been zero releases into the US the past 4 months.

ICE is NOT rounding up citizens. If citizens are arrested it is because they are impeding arrest of others - a crime.

YOU, my dear, have to understand that Biden was derelict in his duty of protecting our border. He allowed in MILLIONS - let's say 10 million - a pretty conservative number because it is likely much much larger. We know many of them are criminals. Let's just say that 5% of those entering were criminals. that is 500,000 people that have to be found. That takes time. Add to that the 300,000 children the Biden administration lost which our law enforcement is searching for..... they have a lot to do. They have found about 25,000 of those kids.

So, quit justifying the targeting of ICE and CBP who are just doing their jobs. There is NO justification or excuse.

Let’s be clear: no one in this thread justified targeting ICE agents. That’s a grotesque misreading of the previous post, which criticized ICE’s operational failures, not the individuals themselves. Criticism of a government agency’s conduct is not the same as endorsing violence against its personnel. Equating the two is intellectually dishonest and dangerously inflammatory.

Now, let’s dismantle the rest:

“The border has been sealed”: False. Even under the most aggressive enforcement periods, the border has never been “sealed.” Migration flows fluctuate, but no credible source claims zero entries or releases. If you’re seeing “zero releases” posts daily, you’re consuming propaganda, not policy analysis.

“ICE is NOT rounding up citizens”: Also false. There are numerous documented cases of ICE detaining U.S. citizens, including individuals born in the U.S., due to mistaken identity or lack of due process. These are not isolated incidents, they’ve been covered by outlets across the political spectrum.

“5% of migrants are criminals”: That’s a made-up number. There is no verified data supporting that claim. In fact, multiple studies show immigrants, documented and undocumented, commit crimes at lower rates than native-born citizens. Throwing around speculative percentages to stoke fear is dishonest and irresponsible.

“300,000 children lost”: This is a distortion. The number refers to unaccompanied minors whose sponsors haven’t responded to follow-up calls, not “lost” in the literal sense. It’s a bureaucratic failure, yes, but not a mass disappearance. Conflating it with criminal neglect is misleading.

Finally, accusing someone of “justifying violence” because they criticize ICE’s tactics, including warrantless raids, mistaken detentions, and abuse allegations is a cheap and dishonest smear. If you want to defend ICE, do it with facts and accountability, not hyperbole and false equivalence.

You don’t get to shut down legitimate criticism by pretending it’s an endorsement of violence. That’s not debate: it’s deflection.

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Daily Caller is specifically calling for violence against left wingers and liberals. I am sure all the rhetoric police on the right are going to condemn that, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Why would someone target an ICE detention facility in Texas to find an illegal immigrant? You can throw a rock in the air randomly in Texas, and chances are it'll hit an illegal when it lands. Why target a secure facility if your goal is to shoot illegals? It makes zero sense. It was very obviously done to kill ICE agents, and the shooter screwed everything up.

Why are we expending so much energy to understand the motives of a crazy person? It never makes sense to shoot up a bunch of people. The decision is always going to have some kind of logical hole in it, whether you look at it from the left or the right, because IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

- except all the recent violence has come from people who identify with just one side of the isle: the Democrats.

The Utah shooter was NOT a Democrat.

But he WAS leftist

No, he was a Nihlist. Not the same thing.

He was a MAGA. He was trying to kill detainees, not ICE officers.

You are either is informed or an idiot. Authorities have released the contents of notes the killer left. He has been planning this attack for a while and wanted to “terrorize” ICE agents.

NP.

DCUMAD’s political “village” has a number of idiots. You just responded to one of them.

The shooter was a leftist.

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Anonymous wrote:The absolute refusal of people on the left (and I say this as a moderate Democrat) to accept that they have a political violence problem like the right has a political violence problem is upsetting.

This guy was a leftist shooter. You look idiotic claiming anything else. Face reality, please.

His family said he's not. You look like the idiot.

You believe that? Come on. Use your head.

He shot indiscriminately. He was just trying to kill people. There was no cogent ideology. These people are just nuts. Does the US have a violence problem? Yes. Do we have an angry you men problem? Yes. It is unique to the left side of the political spectrum? No it is not.

Of course it isn’t unique to the left side of the spectrum. The right has a political violence issue too, with the same demographic. But the flat-out denialism from people on the left as to the existence of political violence on the left is aggravating. At a minimum it is extremely alienating to large swaths of the population. No one except cultists will believe that this shooter wasn’t politically aligned with the left.

There is no evidence of his political alignment with the left. Do you care about gun violence or do you care about winning points against the left? Because people like you seem way more worried about the political ideology of a murderer than you do about doing something to prevent murders like this from happening. Stop being disingenuous.

I don't see republicans protesting against ICE. It's an houly event with democrats, however. So we know who aligns with who.

He was politically aligned with democrats. Wanted to harm ICE personnel. Period.

We were told that ICE would round up violent MS-13 and Tren de Aragua gang members, But that hasn't happened. We haven't seen any such mass roundups of gangs announced in the news. We were told that the border would be sealed and that violent murderers and rapists would be rounded up and eliminated. Yet the number of stories about illegals raping and murdering has not decreased, but increased, and they are clearly still coming in, and instead of rounding up those violent criminals, ICE is rounding up hard-working people who lay tile and drywall, moms, short order cooks who have nary a parking ticket to their name. And worse yet, ICE has been unaccountable, rounding up people who are here legally, even citizens, concealing their identity, refusing to identify themselves, refusing to produce warrants, while there's a rise in criminals disguised as ICE who are kidnapping, assaulting and robbing people with virtually no response from this government even after they created the environment for this. It's a trainwreck full of failures and broken promises. And for some reason Republicans remain aligned to that trainwreck.

So much wrong information.
First, it sounds as if you are justifying the targeting of ICE agents. That is disgusting.

Secondly, this administration never said they would limit their arrests to criminals and gang members. But, if you think that it is NOT happening, you havene't been paying attention. Each day, I see at least 5 posts of criminal aliens who have been arrested for murder, rape, rape of a child, assault, gang membership, or a variety of other crimes. These are just the posts I see. I am sure there are many more.
And, the border has been sealed. You're welcome. There have been zero releases into the US the past 4 months.

ICE is NOT rounding up citizens. If citizens are arrested it is because they are impeding arrest of others - a crime.

YOU, my dear, have to understand that Biden was derelict in his duty of protecting our border. He allowed in MILLIONS - let's say 10 million - a pretty conservative number because it is likely much much larger. We know many of them are criminals. Let's just say that 5% of those entering were criminals. that is 500,000 people that have to be found. That takes time. Add to that the 300,000 children the Biden administration lost which our law enforcement is searching for..... they have a lot to do. They have found about 25,000 of those kids.

So, quit justifying the targeting of ICE and CBP who are just doing their jobs. There is NO justification or excuse.

Let’s be clear: no one in this thread justified targeting ICE agents. That’s a grotesque misreading of the previous post, which criticized ICE’s operational failures, not the individuals themselves. Criticism of a government agency’s conduct is not the same as endorsing violence against its personnel. Equating the two is intellectually dishonest and dangerously inflammatory.

Now, let’s dismantle the rest:

“The border has been sealed”: False. Even under the most aggressive enforcement periods, the border has never been “sealed.” Migration flows fluctuate, but no credible source claims zero entries or releases. If you’re seeing “zero releases” posts daily, you’re consuming propaganda, not policy analysis.

“ICE is NOT rounding up citizens”: Also false. There are numerous documented cases of ICE detaining U.S. citizens, including individuals born in the U.S., due to mistaken identity or lack of due process. These are not isolated incidents, they’ve been covered by outlets across the political spectrum.

“5% of migrants are criminals”: That’s a made-up number. There is no verified data supporting that claim. In fact, multiple studies show immigrants, documented and undocumented, commit crimes at lower rates than native-born citizens. Throwing around speculative percentages to stoke fear is dishonest and irresponsible.

“300,000 children lost”: This is a distortion. The number refers to unaccompanied minors whose sponsors haven’t responded to follow-up calls, not “lost” in the literal sense. It’s a bureaucratic failure, yes, but not a mass disappearance. Conflating it with criminal neglect is misleading.

Finally, accusing someone of “justifying violence” because they criticize ICE’s tactics, including warrantless raids, mistaken detentions, and abuse allegations is a cheap and dishonest smear. If you want to defend ICE, do it with facts and accountability, not hyperbole and false equivalence.

You don’t get to shut down legitimate criticism by pretending it’s an endorsement of violence. That’s not debate: it’s deflection.

You are constantly justifying the targeting of ICE. You support un-masking ICE solely because you want them and their families to get Doxxed.

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Anonymous wrote:The absolute refusal of people on the left (and I say this as a moderate Democrat) to accept that they have a political violence problem like the right has a political violence problem is upsetting.

This guy was a leftist shooter. You look idiotic claiming anything else. Face reality, please.

His family said he's not. You look like the idiot.

You believe that? Come on. Use your head.

He shot indiscriminately. He was just trying to kill people. There was no cogent ideology. These people are just nuts. Does the US have a violence problem? Yes. Do we have an angry you men problem? Yes. It is unique to the left side of the political spectrum? No it is not.

Of course it isn’t unique to the left side of the spectrum. The right has a political violence issue too, with the same demographic. But the flat-out denialism from people on the left as to the existence of political violence on the left is aggravating. At a minimum it is extremely alienating to large swaths of the population. No one except cultists will believe that this shooter wasn’t politically aligned with the left.

There is no evidence of his political alignment with the left. Do you care about gun violence or do you care about winning points against the left? Because people like you seem way more worried about the political ideology of a murderer than you do about doing something to prevent murders like this from happening. Stop being disingenuous.

I don't see republicans protesting against ICE. It's an houly event with democrats, however. So we know who aligns with who.

He was politically aligned with democrats. Wanted to harm ICE personnel. Period.

We were told that ICE would round up violent MS-13 and Tren de Aragua gang members, But that hasn't happened. We haven't seen any such mass roundups of gangs announced in the news. We were told that the border would be sealed and that violent murderers and rapists would be rounded up and eliminated. Yet the number of stories about illegals raping and murdering has not decreased, but increased, and they are clearly still coming in, and instead of rounding up those violent criminals, ICE is rounding up hard-working people who lay tile and drywall, moms, short order cooks who have nary a parking ticket to their name. And worse yet, ICE has been unaccountable, rounding up people who are here legally, even citizens, concealing their identity, refusing to identify themselves, refusing to produce warrants, while there's a rise in criminals disguised as ICE who are kidnapping, assaulting and robbing people with virtually no response from this government even after they created the environment for this. It's a trainwreck full of failures and broken promises. And for some reason Republicans remain aligned to that trainwreck.

The person who went hyperbolic by accusing this poster of “targeting ICE agents” failed to refute the core claim: that MS-13 and Tren de Aragua have not been meaningfully targeted or eliminated through coordinated sweeps. In fact, not even a false claim of their elimination has been made, unlike Trump’s absurd declaration that DC is now “crime free.” Even Trump and ICE Barbie must know they’ve utterly failed on that front.

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Anonymous wrote:The absolute refusal of people on the left (and I say this as a moderate Democrat) to accept that they have a political violence problem like the right has a political violence problem is upsetting.

This guy was a leftist shooter. You look idiotic claiming anything else. Face reality, please.

His family said he's not. You look like the idiot.

You believe that? Come on. Use your head.

He shot indiscriminately. He was just trying to kill people. There was no cogent ideology. These people are just nuts. Does the US have a violence problem? Yes. Do we have an angry you men problem? Yes. It is unique to the left side of the political spectrum? No it is not.

Of course it isn’t unique to the left side of the spectrum. The right has a political violence issue too, with the same demographic. But the flat-out denialism from people on the left as to the existence of political violence on the left is aggravating. At a minimum it is extremely alienating to large swaths of the population. No one except cultists will believe that this shooter wasn’t politically aligned with the left.

There is no evidence of his political alignment with the left. Do you care about gun violence or do you care about winning points against the left? Because people like you seem way more worried about the political ideology of a murderer than you do about doing something to prevent murders like this from happening. Stop being disingenuous.

I don't see republicans protesting against ICE. It's an houly event with democrats, however. So we know who aligns with who.

He was politically aligned with democrats. Wanted to harm ICE personnel. Period.

We were told that ICE would round up violent MS-13 and Tren de Aragua gang members, But that hasn't happened. We haven't seen any such mass roundups of gangs announced in the news. We were told that the border would be sealed and that violent murderers and rapists would be rounded up and eliminated. Yet the number of stories about illegals raping and murdering has not decreased, but increased, and they are clearly still coming in, and instead of rounding up those violent criminals, ICE is rounding up hard-working people who lay tile and drywall, moms, short order cooks who have nary a parking ticket to their name. And worse yet, ICE has been unaccountable, rounding up people who are here legally, even citizens, concealing their identity, refusing to identify themselves, refusing to produce warrants, while there's a rise in criminals disguised as ICE who are kidnapping, assaulting and robbing people with virtually no response from this government even after they created the environment for this. It's a trainwreck full of failures and broken promises. And for some reason Republicans remain aligned to that trainwreck.

So much wrong information.
First, it sounds as if you are justifying the targeting of ICE agents. That is disgusting.

Secondly, this administration never said they would limit their arrests to criminals and gang members. But, if you think that it is NOT happening, you havene't been paying attention. Each day, I see at least 5 posts of criminal aliens who have been arrested for murder, rape, rape of a child, assault, gang membership, or a variety of other crimes. These are just the posts I see. I am sure there are many more.
And, the border has been sealed. You're welcome. There have been zero releases into the US the past 4 months.

ICE is NOT rounding up citizens. If citizens are arrested it is because they are impeding arrest of others - a crime.

YOU, my dear, have to understand that Biden was derelict in his duty of protecting our border. He allowed in MILLIONS - let's say 10 million - a pretty conservative number because it is likely much much larger. We know many of them are criminals. Let's just say that 5% of those entering were criminals. that is 500,000 people that have to be found. That takes time. Add to that the 300,000 children the Biden administration lost which our law enforcement is searching for..... they have a lot to do. They have found about 25,000 of those kids.

So, quit justifying the targeting of ICE and CBP who are just doing their jobs. There is NO justification or excuse.

Let’s be clear: no one in this thread justified targeting ICE agents. That’s a grotesque misreading of the previous post, which criticized ICE’s operational failures, not the individuals themselves. Criticism of a government agency’s conduct is not the same as endorsing violence against its personnel. Equating the two is intellectually dishonest and dangerously inflammatory.

Now, let’s dismantle the rest:

“The border has been sealed”: False. Even under the most aggressive enforcement periods, the border has never been “sealed.” Migration flows fluctuate, but no credible source claims zero entries or releases. If you’re seeing “zero releases” posts daily, you’re consuming propaganda, not policy analysis.

“ICE is NOT rounding up citizens”: Also false. There are numerous documented cases of ICE detaining U.S. citizens, including individuals born in the U.S., due to mistaken identity or lack of due process. These are not isolated incidents, they’ve been covered by outlets across the political spectrum.

“5% of migrants are criminals”: That’s a made-up number. There is no verified data supporting that claim. In fact, multiple studies show immigrants, documented and undocumented, commit crimes at lower rates than native-born citizens. Throwing around speculative percentages to stoke fear is dishonest and irresponsible.

“300,000 children lost”: This is a distortion. The number refers to unaccompanied minors whose sponsors haven’t responded to follow-up calls, not “lost” in the literal sense. It’s a bureaucratic failure, yes, but not a mass disappearance. Conflating it with criminal neglect is misleading.

Finally, accusing someone of “justifying violence” because they criticize ICE’s tactics, including warrantless raids, mistaken detentions, and abuse allegations is a cheap and dishonest smear. If you want to defend ICE, do it with facts and accountability, not hyperbole and false equivalence.

You don’t get to shut down legitimate criticism by pretending it’s an endorsement of violence. That’s not debate: it’s deflection.

You are constantly justifying the targeting of ICE. You support un-masking ICE solely because you want them and their families to get Doxxed.

Cite the exact language in the posts you are responding to that is "justifying the targeting of ICE."