US Capitol Breached by Trump's lunatics

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no weapons
not a coordianted effort with recon in advance

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The Capitol was closed that day. It's not like these people wandered off from their group tour.

And for all the bleating the right does about law and order and how much better it was in the old days, these people would have faced a firing squad in "the good old days".

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Anonymous wrote:The Capitol was closed that day. It's not like these people wandered off from their group tour.

And for all the bleating the right does about law and order and how much better it was in the old days, these people would have faced a firing squad in "the good old days".

It's strange how the GOP doesn't want "the good old days"for themselves, just for the rest of us.

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Anonymous wrote:The Capitol was closed that day. It's not like these people wandered off from their group tour.

And for all the bleating the right does about law and order and how much better it was in the old days, these people would have faced a firing squad in "the good old days".

Frankly it would have helped nipped right wing terrorism in the bud if it had been clearly and forcefully dealt with.

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Anonymous wrote:‘Front of the pack pushing against police’: Off-duty Pa. officer charged at police during the Capitol riot, FBI says
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/02/21/officer-joseph-fischer-charged-capitol-riots/

Fischer appealed his eventual conviction, challenging an obstruction statute, 18 USC 1512(c), used to prosecute hundreds of Jan 6 rioters as well as Trump. Oral arguments in SCOTUS today.

Yeah, this charge seems sketch. Stick to reality when charging and convicting, please.

What about it is “sketch”?

Agree. The only think sketch about this is that a mob of individuals invaded the Capitol and attempted to end the certification of the presidential election. IDK about the PP who claimed this seemed "sketch," but I visited the Capitol a number of times - many many many - over the 20 years I lived and worked in DC. The rules about what one can bring into the Capitol, even onto the grounds, are pretty specific as well as the use of objects already on the grounds. This is largely, though not exclusively, informed by enslaver Rep Preston Brooks (SC) nearly beating abolitionist Sen Charles Sumner (MA) to death with a cane (1850s?). Brandishing the flag poles by insurrectionists was not due to being caught up in the "patriotic" moment but a lethal threat to their opponents.

So many tourists bay for blood while looking for Congress and smearing poop on the walls.

Tourists cannot ever just walk into the Capitol and stroll around unidentified and unescorted. You have to give them your ID, get a visitor tag, and be escorted in a group or by a Congressional staffer, and can only go into certain areas of the Capitol. You can’t break doors or windows or force your way into the House floor or Senate floor or Speakers Office. You can’t attack the Capitol Police or vandalize the building. No one who entered the building on Jan. 6 was a tourist.

Or people who "just founds themselves" there.

Very hard to argue that they "just found themselves there" when they went to the rally on the Mall and were told to march up to the Capitol and show support for some Congressmen and show less support for other Congressmen. Clearly, they walked the 6 blocks or so from the rally point to the Capitol intentionally and not accidentally or incidentally.

LOL, I'm not arguing that but Speaker Johnson offered that weak tea recently.

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The courts have already released most of the defendants who plead guilty to await this ruling. I wonder how SCOTUS will rule?

Bet the dems will be concerned! At what point are the dems going to do anything about SCOTUS?

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Anonymous wrote:The courts have already released most of the defendants who plead guilty to await this ruling. I wonder how SCOTUS will rule?

Bet the dems will be concerned! At what point are the dems going to do anything about SCOTUS?

What, exactly, do you expect? They don't have enough senators to impeach any of them, law enforcement seems to be turning a blind eye, and they don;t have the votes to add justice.

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Anonymous wrote:The courts have already released most of the defendants who plead guilty to await this ruling. I wonder how SCOTUS will rule?

Bet the dems will be concerned! At what point are the dems going to do anything about SCOTUS?

What, exactly, do you expect? They don't have enough senators to impeach any of them, law enforcement seems to be turning a blind eye, and they don;t have the votes to add justice.

Yes just do nothing and accept their corruption. Wonder what the republicans would do in similar situations. I am sure they would do nothing as you advocate. The dems are not even upset that Thomas is hearing the case.

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Dems have not even asked for a special counsel to investigate SCOTUS. WTF? Guess they are too scared of the republicans?

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Given that Thomas and company will shortly free all the Jan 6th’ers why would anyone think they will not free trump if he is convicted?

What a waste of time.

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Anonymous wrote:Given that Thomas and company will shortly free all the Jan 6th’ers why would anyone think they will not free trump if he is convicted?

What a waste of time.

What is a waste of time?

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Anonymous wrote:Dems have not even asked for a special counsel to investigate SCOTUS. WTF? Guess they are too scared of the republicans?

Guessing you're a bot, a middling HS student, or an op as you are unfamiliar with how the branches of federal government work.

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“Donald Trump could have cleared up confusion and hastened the arrival of National Guard troops to quell the Capitol riot if he’d called Pentagon leaders on Jan. 6, 2021, according to recent closed-door congressional testimony by two former leaders of the D.C. guard.

Michael Brooks, the senior enlisted leader of the D.C. guard at the time of the riot, and Brigadier Gen. Aaron Dean, the adjutant general of the D.C. guard at the time, told House Administration Committee staffers that if Trump had reached out that day — which, by all accounts, he did not — he might have helped cut through the chaos amid a tangle of conflicting advice and miscommunication.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/17/trump-jan-6-capitol-riot-national-guard-00152757

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Anonymous wrote:Dems have not even asked for a special counsel to investigate SCOTUS. WTF? Guess they are too scared of the republicans?

Guessing you're a bot, a middling HS student, or an op as you are unfamiliar with how the branches of federal government work.

Yes you tell it like it is! SCOTUS is above the law.

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Anonymous wrote:“Donald Trump could have cleared up confusion and hastened the arrival of National Guard troops to quell the Capitol riot if he’d called Pentagon leaders on Jan. 6, 2021, according to recent closed-door congressional testimony by two former leaders of the D.C. guard.

Michael Brooks, the senior enlisted leader of the D.C. guard at the time of the riot, and Brigadier Gen. Aaron Dean, the adjutant general of the D.C. guard at the time, told House Administration Committee staffers that if Trump had reached out that day — which, by all accounts, he did not — he might have helped cut through the chaos amid a tangle of conflicting advice and miscommunication.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/17/trump-jan-6-capitol-riot-national-guard-00152757

This is the primary reason, an indisputable reason, Trump should never hold public office again. A mob of hundreds breached security at the US Capitol and he, as the sitting president, sat a mile away and watched it on TV for hours without doing anything as his staff and family frantically tried to push him into action. Biden may be a very weak presidential candidate for the job through 2029 but he is qualified for the position. Trump's failure to fulfill his duties as Commander-in-Chief that day disqualify him permanently in the minds of any sane American. Integrity matters most.