First trimester, but my "reasonableness" doesn't matter. Everyone has an opinion, so let states work it out with their constituents. I'm against federalizing every f'n issue. Washington DC does not have all the answers. |
This. Whether a girl is 11 and raped, or a woman is 30 and has a life threatening medical issue and other kids, it makes no difference to republicans in these states at this point. |
So in the 6th month, if there is an anormality, the mother should just carry it to term, risking her life or her ability to have another child in the future? |
We are doing this now and women's rights are being trampled. How about "let doctors work it out with their patients?" |
We're going to see more and more headlines like this in red states now:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/georgia-father-sentenced-50-years-prison-poisoning-newborns-breastmilk-rcna147708 In Georgia, father poisons his babies pumped breastmilk with antifreeze, so he won't have to pay child support. |
Is there anything forced birthers have said or done that shows that they care? Women and girls are dying due to total bans and they don’t care. “States’ rights” they say, as if it’s acceptable for women to be right-less half citizens. Statistically speaking future criminals are being born in the thousands; they don’t care. “Personal responsibility” they say, as if abortion isn’t taking responsibility, as if their party isn’t going after birth control. Who cares if a woman is going to give birth to a child who will die and her fertility will be destroyed. “God’s will,” they say, as if the entire medical industry isn’t based on disrupting “God’s will” with appendectomies and Viagra and cancer treatment. I think we can all quit pretending that forced birthers are sensible, moderate people. They’ve shown they’re not and that not a one of their arguments has any sense behind it whatsoever. |
What if a fetus is developing without an organ or an organ outside of its body? Give it a chance to see if it shakes it off? |
Your right. Your opinion doesn’t matter. And your are totally misrepresenting the SCOTUS ruling. They didn’t “send it back to states” the said this needs to be legislated. That means state OR federal legislation. AND I would wager that you’d be super duper fine if MAGA GOP were to enact a federal ban. |
So premature rupture of membranes in second trimester, 17 weeks, nonviable to deliver, just wait for sepsis to set in and deliver the fetus after it does naturally? Hope the woman survives septic shock, but because it's past the first trimester, no other options? |
("after it dies naturally inside her") |
Per PP, that sounds like a reasonable outcome. It's obviously the woman's fault for generating a non-viable pregnancy that didn't manifest itself as such in the first trimester. As such, she must pay with her life. |
Is Georgia a red state? |
I am the previous poster. Exceptions for the life of the mother, rape, incest, etc. But you're not going to be doing partial-birth abortions because you changed your mind/couldn't make up your mind in the later parts of the pregnancy. Or you sleep around and have had 17 abortions to your name. That s*** ain't happening. I'm reasonable, but you want to make a business out of encouraging abortions and selling stem cells for $$$, no. If you're in an area where there are more abortions than live births, that s*** has got to stop. You understand my wavelength now. I'm talking about abuse of the system. Things like clinics pushing abortions to make money. Much like medicare fraud. Things like Planned Parentthood shifting funds and using fungibility clauses to whack the tax payer for funding when the law clearly states you shall not. Lawfare against the Hyde Amendment. MONETIZING the industry for disgusting evil ends. And not just the fiscal angle, but also pushing abortions as a right to the point you have to announce you had one just to be cool. It's not cool. Making statements like "I regret not getting pregnant just so I could have an abortion" are counterproductive, but it's reality. I'm not unreasonable, but there are two sides to every argument. |
What you describe is first trimester behavior. Haven't partial birth abortions been banned for a long time? |
DP. Why? What makes a first or second or third abortion fine but 17 is too many? Clearly the woman is lousy at birth control and doesn't want to be a mother. After 12 or 16 abortions, then you think she should have a baby rather than another abortion? Curious to hear your reasoning. That woman seems to me to be an excellent candidate for abortion. Even for abortion 18 if it comes up. |