Who's claiming that "truly big salaries are what really matters in life? They do help full pay for private school tuitions and/or houses in the best public school neighborhoods though. |
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This post has really gone off the rails. You know that smart people can go to other schools too....I would hope many of you consider these people successful. Looks like Texas A&M is a better choice than HYP.
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/where-the-top-fortune-500-ceos-attended-college |
In fairness, the culture is pretty widespread amongst all rich white suburbanite parents, no matter the state. But yeah, this entire thread speaks volume of how entitled so many parents feel. |
HA! And clearly so are you. I love it when a poster makes a moronic statement, proving themselves to actually be the moron. |
| Cool story, bro |
| Getting into a T15 is great but it honestly doesn’t matter where in the top 50 US News (or top 20 SLAC) an elite prep lifer lands; they’re better prepared and their soft skills are more polished than 99% of their peers. The swots that claw their way into an elite never have “it” and it’s their downfall. Go ahead and cling to outliers but this country is run by elite prep schoolers. Always has, always will. |
Oxbridge white guy here who went head to head with IIT guy in grad school. We’d both say the same thing about each other. Kyodai, Todai, Sorbonne/escole not bad either. But. Those are all TEST/GRADES/MERIT based admit systems. Heck, my uni interview was a 2 hour long maths test in a blackboard. The American uni admit system is a total crapshoot, and getting more so. |
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Both PPs were under the delusion that the most popular colleges in the US were popular due to the innate intelligence and hard work of the students there. Ha! That's is so funny!
Merit based ANYTHING in the US does not exist. That is not how it has ever worked here. |
Yeah because when my kids applied to college they didn’t have to submit any test scores or grades. If this is what an Oxbridge education produces, no wonder kids from the US use it as a safety. |
| American education system is not purely merit based nor its economy capitalistic. We are just conned into thinking so. |
Who thinks it's purely merit based now or has ever been? Athletic recruiting, donor help, legacy help, etc. have all been in place for decades. If you thought it was, you were just naive. But, just because it is not purely merit based does not mean that it is a total crapshoot. Academic merit (and that's what you mean) is just one of a number of factors. I don't know whether the other systems are as purely academic merit based as we are led to believe, either, we just don't have the same familiarity with the quirks and corruption of those systems as we do of ours. |
| Merit includes achievements in athletics and other extra-curriculars. It's myopic to suggest otherwise. |
"we disagree" - the rest of the world |
| The graduates of just the IIT schools in India produce about 25% of Silicon Valley startups!!! These graduates have a dominant presence in the United States in tech, finance, science and engineering. They have become our best, most productive, and creative citizens. BTW, once the IIT guys have kids in the US, they make sure their kids go into medicine, because they know that there are waves of IIT grads still coming over to compete with them. Learn you lessons, boys and girls, there is less competition and talent in the non-engineering fields. Make good choices. |
IIT is a university system in India. China and South Korea are countries. IIT might have become the most important university in the world. It has a low endowment but the most impactful grads. CEOs, professors, computer scientists, senators, all know this. Ask someone who is "high up" ; they'll tell you how the world works. HA! |