Girls DA 2018-19 Season

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Spirit Dad believes his team would win more games if his DD got to play instead of riding the bench. And yet we are the apologists. LMAO!


Man you sound so creepy. So glad we are not with you on the sideline.


+1
Anonymous
Not surprisingly, FCV's U15s smashed PA Classics, but while the U17s won, it was only by 1. I wonder if that was just a fluke or what, since usually all of their age groups give PA Classics a pretty good thrashing? U19s might have been rained out.

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Anonymous wrote:Rosters are posted on the USSDA site.

Interesting information given some of the numbers that were being thrown out here earlier in the thread...


FCV U15s = 18
FCV U16/17 = 22

Arlington U15 = 17
No U16/17 team

Wash Spirit VA U15s = 22
Wash Spirit VA U16/17 = 16

Wash Spirit MD U15s = 18
Wash Spirit MD U16/17 = 17


The U15s have 24. There are 2 players not on there that I know are not only on the FT roster, they are starters.


I should clarify: the WS VA U15s. So I don't know if there are missing players from the other rosters as well.


Maybe they’re not starters anymore . . .


They are. Saturday will prove that out. If I'm wrong though - which if we were in person, I'd bet money I'm not - I'll come on Sunday and give my mea culpa.


Mea culpa?


I was 50% right, so 50% mea culpa. To me though, if this 05 and 07 will play 100% on the U15 roster, then Spirit is cheating the DA rules of no more than 22 on a roster by always playing them but listing them somewhere else. There is a reason for that rule.

As for the U17 record listed, because of all the numbers complaints, Spirit played up three 04s. None of them started of course (nor should they), but that may be how Spirit solves the problem of unhappy parents.


It was 0-1 at the half (just like the U15s), but the second half featured the 04s, which included a midfielder, defender, and gk, and 3 more goals. Basically, it changed the direction of the game. It's unfortunate, because all 3 could have had a positive impact on a U15 game as stronger players in their own age group, instead of a negative impact on the U17 game.
Anonymous
I thought this was an interesting article, so I figured I'd share:

http://socalsoccermom.com/2018-late-summer-ussda-update-for-girls/

2018 Late Summer USSDA update for Girls
USSDA Update


USSDA Summer Showcase & Playoffs
As summer draws to a close and the second season approaches for the US Soccer Developmental Academy for Girls (USSDA), there have been a few important changes since I wrote my post-2018 Soccer Leagues for Girls. So read on for a USSDA update and my opinions on a few of them. There’s never a dull moment!

Update #1- Clubs leaving USSDA and going “all in” ECNL and vice versa
After the dust settled from all the end of the year Championships a few very interesting announcements were made in Southern California. The first was that LAFC Slammers, a very successful DA team in the inaugural season, would drop DA and be an “all-in” ECNL club. Instead of having a DA team, they now have two ECNL teams- LAFC Slammers ECNL and Slammers ECNL. This one took many people by surprise but sounded like it had been in the works for a while.

Conversely, both OC Surf (formerly West Coast FC) and later San Diego Surf announced that their ECNL teams would now become Developmental Player League (DPL) teams instead. This was news to many…especially those youngers who had tried out and already signed to be on an ECNL team at those clubs.

Update #2- U16 Pilot Teams
Originally, the Southwest conference U16 2003 Pilot Teams were announced as an exciting part of the DPL. They would adhere to the USSDA rules (substituting, no high school or outside play) and have the opportunity to participate in two of the official DA showcases. But, the players would not be official DA players creating all sorts of questions and confusion.

At the beginning of August, the Southwest U16 Pilot teams became official U16 USSDA teams and are no longer part of the DPL. Does this change a lot? Yes and no, but most importantly it gives the players DA status so that they can move freely between DA age groups. The girls now also get the DA patch… as we all know is the most important thing!

Also of note, in the Spring, So Cal Blues announced and signed girls to play on their U16 Pilot team. In early summer, the Blues logo disappeared from the DPL website. Supposedly the pilot team was rejected by the DPL because it would not be the top 03 team at the club. (Blues is now the only So Cal club with both ECNL and USSDA for girls) Blues tried to appeal to US Soccer, but they were told that the decision was up to DPL. Or… at least that’s what I heard! Six weeks or so later, US Soccer announced that the Pilot teams would be an official part of the USSDA…but it was too late for Blues as most of the girls had already left and joined other teams. What?!?

Update #3- Change to the DP Rule
Last year, players were allowed to be “Developmental Players” or “DPs” and play on another team in the club and play in six DA games. Officially I think they were supposed to train with the DA team, but I don’t know if that was something that was enforced. These players could play high school etc…

This year, the “Part-Time” player is replacing the DP. The Part-time player can play up to 12 games with the DA team… but… they can’t play high school?!? This is potentially a big disappointment for players who committed to DPL teams with the desire to play high school as well as have the opportunity to play with the DA team. I’ve heard this from numerous places, but I can’t find it yet in the official DA rules so who knows, this one could change too!

Update #4- Change to Subbing Rules… for U14
One of the consistent complaints about the DA (along with no high school) is the restrictive subbing rules. DA allows no re-entry for players with limited subbing moments. For this year, the rules are changing for the youngest group of girls (2005s or u14s). I think this is an excellent change and would love to see this for all the age groups.

-All Players are permitted to re-enter the game. (This is a major change!) There will be a maximum of 3 substitution moments and half-time does not count as a moment.

So now what??
In my opinion, all these things point to the on-going battle between ECNL and USSDA. For more on this topic, you can read my post, “It’s War- ECNL vs DA.” Should be interesting to find out what happens next. I just hope our girls aren’t a casualty of the war.

Remember, I’m not an expert so please do your own research if this information potentially pertains to your daughter.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rosters are posted on the USSDA site.

Interesting information given some of the numbers that were being thrown out here earlier in the thread...


FCV U15s = 18
FCV U16/17 = 22

Arlington U15 = 17
No U16/17 team

Wash Spirit VA U15s = 22
Wash Spirit VA U16/17 = 16

Wash Spirit MD U15s = 18
Wash Spirit MD U16/17 = 17


The U15s have 24. There are 2 players not on there that I know are not only on the FT roster, they are starters.


I should clarify: the WS VA U15s. So I don't know if there are missing players from the other rosters as well.


Maybe they’re not starters anymore . . .


They are. Saturday will prove that out. If I'm wrong though - which if we were in person, I'd bet money I'm not - I'll come on Sunday and give my mea culpa.


Mea culpa?


I was 50% right, so 50% mea culpa. To me though, if this 05 and 07 will play 100% on the U15 roster, then Spirit is cheating the DA rules of no more than 22 on a roster by always playing them but listing them somewhere else. There is a reason for that rule.

As for the U17 record listed, because of all the numbers complaints, Spirit played up three 04s. None of them started of course (nor should they), but that may be how Spirit solves the problem of unhappy parents.


It was 0-1 at the half (just like the U15s), but the second half featured the 04s, which included a midfielder, defender, and gk, and 3 more goals. Basically, it changed the direction of the game. It's unfortunate, because all 3 could have had a positive impact on a U15 game as stronger players in their own age group, instead of a negative impact on the U17 game.


Wow, you all need to stop. This kind of toxic energy boils down to the kids. I guarantee your own player is not doing well in the toxic environment you have created at home. No well-rounded healthy adult person calls kids out like this.
Anonymous
Can we take a break from talking about Spirit and talk about anything else please?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Forget about WS VA and WS MD. It will take years to develop a team that will compete at a serious level. Focus on FCV and Arlington.


That's probably true.

Arlington it seems had a decent showing against Penn Fusion. Every single game was close, and they won one of the games. Well done!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rosters are posted on the USSDA site.

Interesting information given some of the numbers that were being thrown out here earlier in the thread...


FCV U15s = 18
FCV U16/17 = 22

Arlington U15 = 17
No U16/17 team

Wash Spirit VA U15s = 22
Wash Spirit VA U16/17 = 16

Wash Spirit MD U15s = 18
Wash Spirit MD U16/17 = 17


The U15s have 24. There are 2 players not on there that I know are not only on the FT roster, they are starters.


I should clarify: the WS VA U15s. So I don't know if there are missing players from the other rosters as well.


Maybe they’re not starters anymore . . .


They are. Saturday will prove that out. If I'm wrong though - which if we were in person, I'd bet money I'm not - I'll come on Sunday and give my mea culpa.


Mea culpa?


I was 50% right, so 50% mea culpa. To me though, if this 05 and 07 will play 100% on the U15 roster, then Spirit is cheating the DA rules of no more than 22 on a roster by always playing them but listing them somewhere else. There is a reason for that rule.

As for the U17 record listed, because of all the numbers complaints, Spirit played up three 04s. None of them started of course (nor should they), but that may be how Spirit solves the problem of unhappy parents.


It was 0-1 at the half (just like the U15s), but the second half featured the 04s, which included a midfielder, defender, and gk, and 3 more goals. Basically, it changed the direction of the game. It's unfortunate, because all 3 could have had a positive impact on a U15 game as stronger players in their own age group, instead of a negative impact on the U17 game.


Wow, you all need to stop. This kind of toxic energy boils down to the kids. I guarantee your own player is not doing well in the toxic environment you have created at home. No well-rounded healthy adult person calls kids out like this.


I have no idea what you are talking about. No one ever says anything to the kids at any game ever. They get cheered on regardless of performance. Are there kids being allowed to log onto this forum??? If so, I recommend you stop.

But some of the comments being made about the varying rosters and play up situations are fair. In fact, it is becoming a disservice to some of these players who can't get enough time on the ball for it to help their development.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I thought this was an interesting article, so I figured I'd share:

http://socalsoccermom.com/2018-late-summer-ussda-update-for-girls/

2018 Late Summer USSDA update for Girls
USSDA Update


USSDA Summer Showcase & Playoffs
As summer draws to a close and the second season approaches for the US Soccer Developmental Academy for Girls (USSDA), there have been a few important changes since I wrote my post-2018 Soccer Leagues for Girls. So read on for a USSDA update and my opinions on a few of them. There’s never a dull moment!

Update #1- Clubs leaving USSDA and going “all in” ECNL and vice versa
After the dust settled from all the end of the year Championships a few very interesting announcements were made in Southern California. The first was that LAFC Slammers, a very successful DA team in the inaugural season, would drop DA and be an “all-in” ECNL club. Instead of having a DA team, they now have two ECNL teams- LAFC Slammers ECNL and Slammers ECNL. This one took many people by surprise but sounded like it had been in the works for a while.

Conversely, both OC Surf (formerly West Coast FC) and later San Diego Surf announced that their ECNL teams would now become Developmental Player League (DPL) teams instead. This was news to many…especially those youngers who had tried out and already signed to be on an ECNL team at those clubs.

Update #2- U16 Pilot Teams
Originally, the Southwest conference U16 2003 Pilot Teams were announced as an exciting part of the DPL. They would adhere to the USSDA rules (substituting, no high school or outside play) and have the opportunity to participate in two of the official DA showcases. But, the players would not be official DA players creating all sorts of questions and confusion.

At the beginning of August, the Southwest U16 Pilot teams became official U16 USSDA teams and are no longer part of the DPL. Does this change a lot? Yes and no, but most importantly it gives the players DA status so that they can move freely between DA age groups. The girls now also get the DA patch… as we all know is the most important thing!

Also of note, in the Spring, So Cal Blues announced and signed girls to play on their U16 Pilot team. In early summer, the Blues logo disappeared from the DPL website. Supposedly the pilot team was rejected by the DPL because it would not be the top 03 team at the club. (Blues is now the only So Cal club with both ECNL and USSDA for girls) Blues tried to appeal to US Soccer, but they were told that the decision was up to DPL. Or… at least that’s what I heard! Six weeks or so later, US Soccer announced that the Pilot teams would be an official part of the USSDA…but it was too late for Blues as most of the girls had already left and joined other teams. What?!?

Update #3- Change to the DP Rule
Last year, players were allowed to be “Developmental Players” or “DPs” and play on another team in the club and play in six DA games. Officially I think they were supposed to train with the DA team, but I don’t know if that was something that was enforced. These players could play high school etc…

This year, the “Part-Time” player is replacing the DP. The Part-time player can play up to 12 games with the DA team… but… they can’t play high school?!? This is potentially a big disappointment for players who committed to DPL teams with the desire to play high school as well as have the opportunity to play with the DA team. I’ve heard this from numerous places, but I can’t find it yet in the official DA rules so who knows, this one could change too!

Update #4- Change to Subbing Rules… for U14
One of the consistent complaints about the DA (along with no high school) is the restrictive subbing rules. DA allows no re-entry for players with limited subbing moments. For this year, the rules are changing for the youngest group of girls (2005s or u14s). I think this is an excellent change and would love to see this for all the age groups.

-All Players are permitted to re-enter the game. (This is a major change!) There will be a maximum of 3 substitution moments and half-time does not count as a moment.

So now what??
In my opinion, all these things point to the on-going battle between ECNL and USSDA. For more on this topic, you can read my post, “It’s War- ECNL vs DA.” Should be interesting to find out what happens next. I just hope our girls aren’t a casualty of the war.

Remember, I’m not an expert so please do your own research if this information potentially pertains to your daughter.


Another change that should be noted is allowing more subs in the older age groups (U15 and U17).
Anonymous
Does anyone know where the EDP schedule for the boys and girls U16 DA clubs is being posted? I know there were games this weekend, but I didn't see it on the main EDP site.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rosters are posted on the USSDA site.

Interesting information given some of the numbers that were being thrown out here earlier in the thread...


FCV U15s = 18
FCV U16/17 = 22

Arlington U15 = 17
No U16/17 team

Wash Spirit VA U15s = 22
Wash Spirit VA U16/17 = 16

Wash Spirit MD U15s = 18
Wash Spirit MD U16/17 = 17


The U15s have 24. There are 2 players not on there that I know are not only on the FT roster, they are starters.


I should clarify: the WS VA U15s. So I don't know if there are missing players from the other rosters as well.


Maybe they’re not starters anymore . . .


They are. Saturday will prove that out. If I'm wrong though - which if we were in person, I'd bet money I'm not - I'll come on Sunday and give my mea culpa.


Mea culpa?


I was 50% right, so 50% mea culpa. To me though, if this 05 and 07 will play 100% on the U15 roster, then Spirit is cheating the DA rules of no more than 22 on a roster by always playing them but listing them somewhere else. There is a reason for that rule.

As for the U17 record listed, because of all the numbers complaints, Spirit played up three 04s. None of them started of course (nor should they), but that may be how Spirit solves the problem of unhappy parents.


It was 0-1 at the half (just like the U15s), but the second half featured the 04s, which included a midfielder, defender, and gk, and 3 more goals. Basically, it changed the direction of the game. It's unfortunate, because all 3 could have had a positive impact on a U15 game as stronger players in their own age group, instead of a negative impact on the U17 game.


Wow, you all need to stop. This kind of toxic energy boils down to the kids. I guarantee your own player is not doing well in the toxic environment you have created at home. No well-rounded healthy adult person calls kids out like this.


I have no idea what you are talking about. No one ever says anything to the kids at any game ever. They get cheered on regardless of performance. Are there kids being allowed to log onto this forum??? If so, I recommend you stop.

But some of the comments being made about the varying rosters and play up situations are fair. In fact, it is becoming a disservice to some of these players who can't get enough time on the ball for it to help their development.


They are teenage girls. Not toddlers. Last time I checked you do not need to log on to this forum to read it. The rule of thumb of being a good digital citizen is if you can't say this to someone's face (including the player) maybe you should not be saying it all.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rosters are posted on the USSDA site.

Interesting information given some of the numbers that were being thrown out here earlier in the thread...


FCV U15s = 18
FCV U16/17 = 22

Arlington U15 = 17
No U16/17 team

Wash Spirit VA U15s = 22
Wash Spirit VA U16/17 = 16

Wash Spirit MD U15s = 18
Wash Spirit MD U16/17 = 17


The U15s have 24. There are 2 players not on there that I know are not only on the FT roster, they are starters.


I should clarify: the WS VA U15s. So I don't know if there are missing players from the other rosters as well.


Maybe they’re not starters anymore . . .


They are. Saturday will prove that out. If I'm wrong though - which if we were in person, I'd bet money I'm not - I'll come on Sunday and give my mea culpa.


Mea culpa?


I was 50% right, so 50% mea culpa. To me though, if this 05 and 07 will play 100% on the U15 roster, then Spirit is cheating the DA rules of no more than 22 on a roster by always playing them but listing them somewhere else. There is a reason for that rule.

As for the U17 record listed, because of all the numbers complaints, Spirit played up three 04s. None of them started of course (nor should they), but that may be how Spirit solves the problem of unhappy parents.


It was 0-1 at the half (just like the U15s), but the second half featured the 04s, which included a midfielder, defender, and gk, and 3 more goals. Basically, it changed the direction of the game. It's unfortunate, because all 3 could have had a positive impact on a U15 game as stronger players in their own age group, instead of a negative impact on the U17 game.


Wow, you all need to stop. This kind of toxic energy boils down to the kids. I guarantee your own player is not doing well in the toxic environment you have created at home. No well-rounded healthy adult person calls kids out like this.


Or to the parent’s face either.

I have no idea what you are talking about. No one ever says anything to the kids at any game ever. They get cheered on regardless of performance. Are there kids being allowed to log onto this forum??? If so, I recommend you stop.

But some of the comments being made about the varying rosters and play up situations are fair. In fact, it is becoming a disservice to some of these players who can't get enough time on the ball for it to help their development.


They are teenage girls. Not toddlers. Last time I checked you do not need to log on to this forum to read it. The rule of thumb of being a good digital citizen is if you can't say this to someone's face (including the player) maybe you should not be saying it all.
Anonymous
Or to the parent’s face either.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Or to the parent’s face either.


Don't be ridiculous. These teenagers don't spend time on forums like these. Instagram, snapchat, they have their places they spend online, but they don't come here.

All of that said, these teenagers also know when they played well and when they didn't. They know when they have a good game and when they don't. So no matter what false praise or unfair criticism they may get, they don't look to a forum like this for confirmation.
Anonymous
Maybe we should rename this thread "Spirit VA DA" and open a new thread for the rest of us.
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