APS middle school boundary process

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, if it’s a teaching problem why bother trying to address diversity? Just get rid of the bad teachers who are the reason for low scores.

They don't even care to find the reason for low scores at some elementary schools with high FARMs vs. others. If Hoffman-Boston can have high scores, there's no excuse for Barcroft to have low ones. But the people gunning for this gerrymandering don't want to bother to try to help those kids and raise their scores. They just want more rich kids to be bussed in. It completely throws away the educations of those low scorers and fails to address anything for them. Instead of funding legal defense funds for illegal aliens, Arlington could use those $$$ for guaranteed preschool, language enrichment, etc., for those underperforming schools. But no. No one actually cares to address the issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, if it’s a teaching problem why bother trying to address diversity? Just get rid of the bad teachers who are the reason for low scores.

Because it’s not a teaching problem.
But honestly I REEEALLY hope the Swanson whiners ( we shall now dub them SWINERS!) make that argument out loud at a meeting. Oh please please please tell APS their teachers are the problem. That will be too entertaining.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, if it’s a teaching problem why bother trying to address diversity? Just get rid of the bad teachers who are the reason for low scores.

Because it’s not a teaching problem.
But honestly I REEEALLY hope the Swanson whiners ( we shall now dub them SWINERS!) make that argument out loud at a meeting. Oh please please please tell APS their teachers are the problem. That will be too entertaining.

Hi, Bell Curve believer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:J has 55% at Kenmore, and is over capacity at Gunston. H has no school above 45% and is projecting over capacity at Stratford.

H is the one that eliminates the ability to walk a block to middle school. Nope.

I hope they pick it just because you people are being such selfish A$$holes.

-- Signed a "Williamsburg parent" safely inside their boundary comfort zone

Cool for you. Maybe you should try backing up your ridic 50% FARMS hard cutoff, hmm? So you're saying that poor kids can't score well on tests. What a bell-curve-esque thing to say (not surprising from someone sitting on their North of Lee Highway throne, though). And it's not true. Look at Hoffman-Boston elementary. Almost 55% farms and 8/10 on greatschools. You just can't admit the truth -- High FARMs rates have nothing to do with it. It has to do with bad teaching. If people are unwilling to demand rigor of their neighborhood schools, oh well. Maybe they should look to successful high FARMs schools and figure out what they're doing right rather than try to gerrymander school districts and make walkers ride buses.

The teachers at Kenmore aren’t the problem, you moron.

You're right -- it's the teachers at the elementary schools that feed into it, you moron.

Boy I can’t wait for them to bus your PU.

I live in a Stratford zone, so your sentiment is funny. I do feel for those Swanson families who would be forced to be bussed when they could walk. It's wasteful and ineffective. I for one actually care about fixing underlying problems rather than putting a Band-Aid on them. You don't. But keep on pretending like those underperforming middle school kids will magically do better in school when kids are bussed in. They won't. They'll continue to fail because you can't be bothered.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, if it’s a teaching problem why bother trying to address diversity? Just get rid of the bad teachers who are the reason for low scores.

They don't even care to find the reason for low scores at some elementary schools with high FARMs vs. others. If Hoffman-Boston can have high scores, there's no excuse for Barcroft to have low ones. But the people gunning for this gerrymandering don't want to bother to try to help those kids and raise their scores. They just want more rich kids to be bussed in. It completely throws away the educations of those low scorers and fails to address anything for them. Instead of funding legal defense funds for illegal aliens, Arlington could use those $$$ for guaranteed preschool, language enrichment, etc., for those underperforming schools. But no. No one actually cares to address the issues.

Hoffman Boston has a really high rate at 56%

But Barcroft and Randolph at both over 75%
That’s a really big difference and aren’t comparable schoools.

Now... Carlin Springs ... 81% now that is a school to look at.
They rate 6 on GS. Compare that to 3’s at Barcroft and Randolph.
So what’s with that?
Well, as I understand those kids are doing a 6 day school week and staying after ever day. It mean the parents aren’t having to find as much child care and kids are fed at school. Not to mention the additional classroom time. It’s been a pilot program that is obviously successful.
But what is the cost of faculty overtime? Can Arlington afford that in every school? My guess is yes, but it means money isn’t spent elsewhere. No political will.
Much cheaper to bus a few more kids from a wealthier part of town to balance demographics.
All of you decry the cost of busing aren’t seeing the big picture.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:J has 55% at Kenmore, and is over capacity at Gunston. H has no school above 45% and is projecting over capacity at Stratford.

H is the one that eliminates the ability to walk a block to middle school. Nope.

I hope they pick it just because you people are being such selfish A$$holes.

-- Signed a "Williamsburg parent" safely inside their boundary comfort zone

Cool for you. Maybe you should try backing up your ridic 50% FARMS hard cutoff, hmm? So you're saying that poor kids can't score well on tests. What a bell-curve-esque thing to say (not surprising from someone sitting on their North of Lee Highway throne, though). And it's not true. Look at Hoffman-Boston elementary. Almost 55% farms and 8/10 on greatschools. You just can't admit the truth -- High FARMs rates have nothing to do with it. It has to do with bad teaching. If people are unwilling to demand rigor of their neighborhood schools, oh well. Maybe they should look to successful high FARMs schools and figure out what they're doing right rather than try to gerrymander school districts and make walkers ride buses.

The teachers at Kenmore aren’t the problem, you moron.

You're right -- it's the teachers at the elementary schools that feed into it, you moron.

Boy I can’t wait for them to bus your PU.

I live in a Stratford zone, so your sentiment is funny. I do feel for those Swanson families who would be forced to be bussed when they could walk. It's wasteful and ineffective. I for one actually care about fixing underlying problems rather than putting a Band-Aid on them. You don't. But keep on pretending like those underperforming middle school kids will magically do better in school when kids are bussed in. They won't. They'll continue to fail because you can't be bothered.

Yes yes it’s all about the poor children... sure.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, if it’s a teaching problem why bother trying to address diversity? Just get rid of the bad teachers who are the reason for low scores.

They don't even care to find the reason for low scores at some elementary schools with high FARMs vs. others. If Hoffman-Boston can have high scores, there's no excuse for Barcroft to have low ones. But the people gunning for this gerrymandering don't want to bother to try to help those kids and raise their scores. They just want more rich kids to be bussed in. It completely throws away the educations of those low scorers and fails to address anything for them. Instead of funding legal defense funds for illegal aliens, Arlington could use those $$$ for guaranteed preschool, language enrichment, etc., for those underperforming schools. But no. No one actually cares to address the issues.

Hoffman Boston has a really high rate at 56%

But Barcroft and Randolph at both over 75%
That’s a really big difference and aren’t comparable schoools.

Now... Carlin Springs ... 81% now that is a school to look at.
They rate 6 on GS. Compare that to 3’s at Barcroft and Randolph.
So what’s with that?
Well, as I understand those kids are doing a 6 day school week and staying after ever day. It mean the parents aren’t having to find as much child care and kids are fed at school. Not to mention the additional classroom time. It’s been a pilot program that is obviously successful.
But what is the cost of faculty overtime? Can Arlington afford that in every school? My guess is yes, but it means money isn’t spent elsewhere. No political will.
Much cheaper to bus a few more kids from a wealthier part of town to balance demographics.
All of you decry the cost of busing aren’t seeing the big picture.

Of course we are. The big picture is that this is pure laziness and cost cutting that does nothing to address the issues. As you say, Arlington could implement a Carlin Springs type program, or other programs that would directly address educational issues at the ELEMENTARY level (where the big differences can be made). Laziness, greed, and incompetence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:J has 55% at Kenmore, and is over capacity at Gunston. H has no school above 45% and is projecting over capacity at Stratford.

H is the one that eliminates the ability to walk a block to middle school. Nope.

I hope they pick it just because you people are being such selfish A$$holes.

-- Signed a "Williamsburg parent" safely inside their boundary comfort zone

Cool for you. Maybe you should try backing up your ridic 50% FARMS hard cutoff, hmm? So you're saying that poor kids can't score well on tests. What a bell-curve-esque thing to say (not surprising from someone sitting on their North of Lee Highway throne, though). And it's not true. Look at Hoffman-Boston elementary. Almost 55% farms and 8/10 on greatschools. You just can't admit the truth -- High FARMs rates have nothing to do with it. It has to do with bad teaching. If people are unwilling to demand rigor of their neighborhood schools, oh well. Maybe they should look to successful high FARMs schools and figure out what they're doing right rather than try to gerrymander school districts and make walkers ride buses.

The teachers at Kenmore aren’t the problem, you moron.

You're right -- it's the teachers at the elementary schools that feed into it, you moron.

Boy I can’t wait for them to bus your PU.

I live in a Stratford zone, so your sentiment is funny. I do feel for those Swanson families who would be forced to be bussed when they could walk. It's wasteful and ineffective. I for one actually care about fixing underlying problems rather than putting a Band-Aid on them. You don't. But keep on pretending like those underperforming middle school kids will magically do better in school when kids are bussed in. They won't. They'll continue to fail because you can't be bothered.

Apparently it's not about the poor children for you, lady.

Yes yes it’s all about the poor children... sure.

[Anonymous]

Cheaper to spread the demographic burden than have the elementary school week end at 5:30 on Saturday.
It’s just not realistic.
It’s wonderful they are able to do it in Carlin Springs. It’s the worst part of the county, and likely the only reason Kenmore is able to stay afloat.
APS is being smart with resources.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cheaper to spread the demographic burden than have the elementary school week end at 5:30 on Saturday.
It’s just not realistic.
It’s wonderful they are able to do it in Carlin Springs. It’s the worst part of the county, and likely the only reason Kenmore is able to stay afloat.
APS is being smart with resources.

Hi, SB Member! Glad to see you don't care about the education of your other S. Arlington kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cheaper to spread the demographic burden than have the elementary school week end at 5:30 on Saturday.
It’s just not realistic.
It’s wonderful they are able to do it in Carlin Springs. It’s the worst part of the county, and likely the only reason Kenmore is able to stay afloat.
APS is being smart with resources.

Hi, SB Member! Glad to see you don't care about the education of your other S. Arlington kids.

Not ideal. But honestly where were you during ahmp a couple of years ago? North Arlington families don’t get my sympathy on this. We are 1 school system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cheaper to spread the demographic burden than have the elementary school week end at 5:30 on Saturday.
It’s just not realistic.
It’s wonderful they are able to do it in Carlin Springs. It’s the worst part of the county, and likely the only reason Kenmore is able to stay afloat.
APS is being smart with resources.

Hi, SB Member! Glad to see you don't care about the education of your other S. Arlington kids.

Not ideal. But honestly where were you during ahmp a couple of years ago? North Arlington families don’t get my sympathy on this. We are 1 school system.

I didn't live in Arlington a couple of years ago, genius. And if you're "one school system," you should actually pretend to care about the educations of people in that "one school system." But let's face it -- you don't really believe that. You just want test scores raised in the short term by bussing in other kids so that your property values are raised. Not only is it stupid, it shows what you really are -- a person who has no care about the actual kids in your one system who are in need of help.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Cheaper to spread the demographic burden than have the elementary school week end at 5:30 on Saturday.
It’s just not realistic.
It’s wonderful they are able to do it in Carlin Springs. It’s the worst part of the county, and likely the only reason Kenmore is able to stay afloat.
APS is being smart with resources.

Hi, SB Member! Glad to see you don't care about the education of your other S. Arlington kids.

Not ideal. But honestly where were you during ahmp a couple of years ago? North Arlington families don’t get my sympathy on this. We are 1 school system.

I didn't live in Arlington a couple of years ago, genius. And if you're "one school system," you should actually pretend to care about the educations of people in that "one school system." But let's face it -- you don't really believe that. You just want test scores raised in the short term by bussing in other kids so that your property values are raised. Not only is it stupid, it shows what you really are -- a person who has no care about the actual kids in your one system who are in need of help.

Wow! These over the top responses are making me chuckle a bit. You are arguing about something you obviously know nothing about. Keep talking. Your ignorance is showing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Cheaper to spread the demographic burden than have the elementary school week end at 5:30 on Saturday.
It’s just not realistic.
It’s wonderful they are able to do it in Carlin Springs. It’s the worst part of the county, and likely the only reason Kenmore is able to stay afloat.
APS is being smart with resources.

Hi, SB Member! Glad to see you don't care about the education of your other S. Arlington kids.

Not ideal. But honestly where were you during ahmp a couple of years ago? North Arlington families don’t get my sympathy on this. We are 1 school system.

I didn't live in Arlington a couple of years ago, genius. And if you're "one school system," you should actually pretend to care about the educations of people in that "one school system." But let's face it -- you don't really believe that. You just want test scores raised in the short term by bussing in other kids so that your property values are raised. Not only is it stupid, it shows what you really are -- a person who has no care about the actual kids in your one system who are in need of help.

Wow! These over the top responses are making me chuckle a bit. You are arguing about something you obviously know nothing about. Keep talking. Your ignorance is showing.

The test scores say it all.

[Anonymous]

So the loudest jerks are people that just moved to Arlington. I shouldn’t be surprised.