2035, 2034, 2033 Girls

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Anonymous wrote:Godine was counted. Levy was not (an out of town fly in). Bit let’s include Levy, which puts M&D with six players over the past five years. Still dreadful.

Ok, thanks. Could you adjust all the other totals for all those teams and years where you made a personal decision not to include them, so we can see what the participation has been?

Well I think people would prefer the facts to win the day. So with that one correction (thank you) the stats are these — and still paint a very clear picture:

NW 2026
Skywalkers 3
M&D 0
Capital 1
Hero's 0

UNC 2025
Skywalkers 1
M&D 2
Capital 1
Hero's 0

BC 2024
Skywalkers 0
M&D 2
Capital 1
Hero's 0

NW 2023
Skywalkers 1
M&D 0
Capital 0
Hero's 0

UNC 2022
Skywalkers 7
M&D 1
Capital 1
Hero’s 1

Total number of players on national championship teams over past 5 years:
Skywalkers = 12
M&D = 5
Capital = 4
Hero's = 1

Ok, so you had a correction pointed out to you, and wouldn't bother to check through any of the other years. Putting the onus on others to factcheck. I think I know what this is and where to file it.

Also worth noting: you originally misled readers to believe it was just four years of analysis (it was five) and that the one correction noted was a fly-in player who was not from the Baltimore area.

4 years -- that wasn't me, and never in the posts preceding the post you originally replied to or since in your "research" was there any mention by you or others about where someone lived early in high school (she played 2 years at McDonough, fwiw). Or fly ins. Should I quote the posts?

And no, I suspect most people tend to mistrust data gatherers if they have been shown to be... inaccurate... and on purpose. And I haven't thrown out any conjecture until the previous sentence.

Except none of this adds any more M&D or Hero’s players to the list of natty champs identified from the past five years. Given your passion on the matter, if they existed, you’d no doubt point them out to us lol.

Actually, I just piggybacked the last one from another poster. Because you refused to answer them. And then berated another poster for "doing all the work" and "not being wrong" among other things.
Now you're at it again mocking data "from the 1950's" that starts --- the year prior, for several years. So no, I'm not fact checking your garbage data as my conjecture is it's biased and likely wrong based on your refusal to factcheck yourself and rely on others. And btw, posters are pointing this out to you, there is no "us".

Is there an interpreter here who can help decipher this? The only clear point is that you haven’t challenge the rest of the data. So it stands!

Not surprising you need an interpreter, given how you fumbled and admitted to misrepresenting the data previously. And insisted it was correct. Don't go into the science business. Career killer.

[Anonymous]

My 2034 thinks your math is wrong

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This whole conversation is so weird.

With all due respect, who cares about who won the natty? Very few players are choosing a school based on whether a team has won the national championship. College, for most, is about academics and having a great overall experience.

For example, many people believe playing for an Ivy or a school like Stanford or Duke is far BETTER than winning a national championship. So even if they could play at team that has won multiple nattys, they aren’t going to choose it. The question one should be asking is whether a club able to help your daughter develop and grow and, come high school, to commit to a school that checks their boxes.

But if you’re strictly talking competitiveness of teams, I would think a more accurate measure would be looking at top 20, or teams that made the NCAA tournament, or teams that made it to final four. But bottom line is that if there are declining numbers for top local teams, it isn’t because of the emergence of other local teams - it’s because the sport is growing and more players are being recruited from non-hotbed areas and from areas like NY.

Our first Capital parent has entered the chat! The only people who say lacrosse is merely an avenue to an Ivy. SMH.

I wouldn’t assume that parents posting on here are:

1) actually parents of 35s, 34s or 33s. People chat all the time in forums that aren’t about their kid, and this forum has been on the top of the new posts list for a while. Drama is always a draw.

2) actually more than one person. No doubt the Hoco dad is posing as other unique but aligned +1 posters. Lauding the 34 team and club is the clear agenda, but so is ginning up bad feelings about M&D and Hero’s. Some of the pro Hoco 2034 posts are so obnoxious that even that could be a fake Hoco person. Similarly, the piling onto Hoco may just be by one person with a grudge against the 34 head coach (with the Century mentions; no 35 or 34 or 33 parent is going to be in the know about that) but pretending to be novel posters.

Let’s all have good tournaments this weekend! See everyone at Live Love Lax, except Hoco lol. They’re at an Apex tournament once again.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This whole conversation is so weird.

With all due respect, who cares about who won the natty? Very few players are choosing a school based on whether a team has won the national championship. College, for most, is about academics and having a great overall experience.

For example, many people believe playing for an Ivy or a school like Stanford or Duke is far BETTER than winning a national championship. So even if they could play at team that has won multiple nattys, they aren’t going to choose it. The question one should be asking is whether a club able to help your daughter develop and grow and, come high school, to commit to a school that checks their boxes.

But if you’re strictly talking competitiveness of teams, I would think a more accurate measure would be looking at top 20, or teams that made the NCAA tournament, or teams that made it to final four. But bottom line is that if there are declining numbers for top local teams, it isn’t because of the emergence of other local teams - it’s because the sport is growing and more players are being recruited from non-hotbed areas and from areas like NY.

Our first Capital parent has entered the chat! The only people who say lacrosse is merely an avenue to an Ivy. SMH.

I wouldn’t assume that parents posting on here are:

1) actually parents of 35s, 34s or 33s. People chat all the time in forums that aren’t about their kid, and this forum has been on the top of the new posts list for a while. Drama is always a draw.

2) actually more than one person. No doubt the Hoco dad is posing as other unique but aligned +1 posters. Lauding the 34 team and club is the clear agenda, but so is ginning up bad feelings about M&D and Hero’s. Some of the pro Hoco 2034 posts are so obnoxious that even that could be a fake Hoco person. Similarly, the piling onto Hoco may just be by one person with a grudge against the 34 head coach (with the Century mentions; no 35 or 34 or 33 parent is going to be in the know about that) but pretending to be novel posters.

Let’s all have good tournaments this weekend! See everyone at Live Love Lax, except Hoco lol. They’re at an Apex tournament once again.

They are so annoying. And none of them got into an Ivy themselves.

[Anonymous]

Going to pivot and ask an actual question…

Anyone have any info on the 2034 M&D DC teams for the 2026 - 2027 season?

Are they expecting many additional players at tryouts? Will the second team be a “B” team?

Any info is appreciated. We were with a different club this year and not happy. A ‘new’ team sounds interesting vs. joining an already established team

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Godine was counted. Levy was not (an out of town fly in). Bit let’s include Levy, which puts M&D with six players over the past five years. Still dreadful.

Ok, thanks. Could you adjust all the other totals for all those teams and years where you made a personal decision not to include them, so we can see what the participation has been?

Well I think people would prefer the facts to win the day. So with that one correction (thank you) the stats are these — and still paint a very clear picture:

NW 2026
Skywalkers 3
M&D 0
Capital 1
Hero's 0

UNC 2025
Skywalkers 1
M&D 2
Capital 1
Hero's 0

BC 2024
Skywalkers 0
M&D 2
Capital 1
Hero's 0

NW 2023
Skywalkers 1
M&D 0
Capital 0
Hero's 0

UNC 2022
Skywalkers 7
M&D 1
Capital 1
Hero’s 1

Total number of players on national championship teams over past 5 years:
Skywalkers = 12
M&D = 5
Capital = 4
Hero's = 1

Ok, so you had a correction pointed out to you, and wouldn't bother to check through any of the other years. Putting the onus on others to factcheck. I think I know what this is and where to file it.

Also worth noting: you originally misled readers to believe it was just four years of analysis (it was five) and that the one correction noted was a fly-in player who was not from the Baltimore area.

4 years -- that wasn't me, and never in the posts preceding the post you originally replied to or since in your "research" was there any mention by you or others about where someone lived early in high school (she played 2 years at McDonough, fwiw). Or fly ins. Should I quote the posts?

And no, I suspect most people tend to mistrust data gatherers if they have been shown to be... inaccurate... and on purpose. And I haven't thrown out any conjecture until the previous sentence.

Except none of this adds any more M&D or Hero’s players to the list of natty champs identified from the past five years. Given your passion on the matter, if they existed, you’d no doubt point them out to us lol.

Actually, I just piggybacked the last one from another poster. Because you refused to answer them. And then berated another poster for "doing all the work" and "not being wrong" among other things.
Now you're at it again mocking data "from the 1950's" that starts --- the year prior, for several years. So no, I'm not fact checking your garbage data as my conjecture is it's biased and likely wrong based on your refusal to factcheck yourself and rely on others. And btw, posters are pointing this out to you, there is no "us".

Is there an interpreter here who can help decipher this? The only clear point is that you haven’t challenge the rest of the data. So it stands!

Not surprising you need an interpreter, given how you fumbled and admitted to misrepresenting the data previously. And insisted it was correct. Don't go into the science business. Career killer.

The data is correct

[Anonymous]

That so-called data was so wrong. You should be embarrassed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Going to pivot and ask an actual question…

Anyone have any info on the 2034 M&D DC teams for the 2026 - 2027 season?

Are they expecting many additional players at tryouts? Will the second team be a “B” team?

Any info is appreciated. We were with a different club this year and not happy. A ‘new’ team sounds interesting vs. joining an already established team

If the 2034 team tryout is anything like the 2036 tryout, they’ll have 2 teams. There was such a big turnout for younger kids, so I imagine it’ll draw slightly older ones too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This whole conversation is so weird.

With all due respect, who cares about who won the natty? Very few players are choosing a school based on whether a team has won the national championship. College, for most, is about academics and having a great overall experience.

For example, many people believe playing for an Ivy or a school like Stanford or Duke is far BETTER than winning a national championship. So even if they could play at team that has won multiple nattys, they aren’t going to choose it. The question one should be asking is whether a club able to help your daughter develop and grow and, come high school, to commit to a school that checks their boxes.

But if you’re strictly talking competitiveness of teams, I would think a more accurate measure would be looking at top 20, or teams that made the NCAA tournament, or teams that made it to final four. But bottom line is that if there are declining numbers for top local teams, it isn’t because of the emergence of other local teams - it’s because the sport is growing and more players are being recruited from non-hotbed areas and from areas like NY.

Our first Capital parent has entered the chat! The only people who say lacrosse is merely an avenue to an Ivy. SMH.

I wouldn’t assume that parents posting on here are:

1) actually parents of 35s, 34s or 33s. People chat all the time in forums that aren’t about their kid, and this forum has been on the top of the new posts list for a while. Drama is always a draw.

2) actually more than one person. No doubt the Hoco dad is posing as other unique but aligned +1 posters. Lauding the 34 team and club is the clear agenda, but so is ginning up bad feelings about M&D and Hero’s. Some of the pro Hoco 2034 posts are so obnoxious that even that could be a fake Hoco person. Similarly, the piling onto Hoco may just be by one person with a grudge against the 34 head coach (with the Century mentions; no 35 or 34 or 33 parent is going to be in the know about that) but pretending to be novel posters.

Let’s all have good tournaments this weekend! See everyone at Live Love Lax, except Hoco lol. They’re at an Apex tournament once again.


HOCO 2033 and up are all at Live Love Lax. You all are so annoying.
Plus Apex has done a great job with their tournaments.

[Anonymous]

HOCO 2032 & 2033 are listed in the Top 10 teams of Live Love Lax.
Our Elementary school teams are having fun at the beach.
2034 will be at Summer Genesis & Lax for the Cure.
2035 will be at Summer Genesis.
It’s nice for the younger teams to have a mix of tournaments. It allows for different opportunities for the entire team.
The fact that we are still talking about HOCO is such a compliment. So thank you. If you want any information, feel free to reach out!! We have some great Coaches lined up for multiple age groups and playing levels!!
2026-2027 Season is gearing up to be so much fun!!

[Anonymous]

Biggest takeaway after reading this whole thread, ‘34 parents are apparently…completely unhinged.

Good luck to all the girls this weekend.

-Signed, Coppermine ‘33 Black parent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole conversation is so weird.

With all due respect, who cares about who won the natty? Very few players are choosing a school based on whether a team has won the national championship. College, for most, is about academics and having a great overall experience.

For example, many people believe playing for an Ivy or a school like Stanford or Duke is far BETTER than winning a national championship. So even if they could play at team that has won multiple nattys, they aren’t going to choose it. The question one should be asking is whether a club able to help your daughter develop and grow and, come high school, to commit to a school that checks their boxes.

But if you’re strictly talking competitiveness of teams, I would think a more accurate measure would be looking at top 20, or teams that made the NCAA tournament, or teams that made it to final four. But bottom line is that if there are declining numbers for top local teams, it isn’t because of the emergence of other local teams - it’s because the sport is growing and more players are being recruited from non-hotbed areas and from areas like NY.

Our first Capital parent has entered the chat! The only people who say lacrosse is merely an avenue to an Ivy. SMH.

I wouldn’t assume that parents posting on here are:

1) actually parents of 35s, 34s or 33s. People chat all the time in forums that aren’t about their kid, and this forum has been on the top of the new posts list for a while. Drama is always a draw.

2) actually more than one person. No doubt the Hoco dad is posing as other unique but aligned +1 posters. Lauding the 34 team and club is the clear agenda, but so is ginning up bad feelings about M&D and Hero’s. Some of the pro Hoco 2034 posts are so obnoxious that even that could be a fake Hoco person. Similarly, the piling onto Hoco may just be by one person with a grudge against the 34 head coach (with the Century mentions; no 35 or 34 or 33 parent is going to be in the know about that) but pretending to be novel posters.

Let’s all have good tournaments this weekend! See everyone at Live Love Lax, except Hoco lol. They’re at an Apex tournament once again.

Actually, not a Capital parent, but someone with a younger daughter and one at a recruiting age. Mine isn't even looking at Ivy's, but my point was that on the long list of what people value about playing in college - winning a National Championship almost never comes up. If anything, that's a thought process for the top-top players who enter the transfer portal. I do NOT think parents of elementary school kids should be worried about any of this yet, they should only be concerned with whether their child loves the game and is learning and getting better, but the conversation shifted to such a hyper-specific college-related data point it seemed logical to scan out. Really SO MUCH changes between these ages and high school, everyone should try and let these kids enjoy being young and carefree about the game and their time with their teammates.

[Anonymous]

Why aren’t there a lot of M&D Black teams at Live Love Lax? Serious question. No judgement. Just wondering why certain clubs choose certain tournaments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why aren’t there a lot of M&D Black teams at Live Love Lax? Serious question. No judgement. Just wondering why certain clubs choose certain tournaments.

Because it isn’t run by Robinson/3 step - gotta feed the machine!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:HOCO 2032 & 2033 are listed in the Top 10 teams of Live Love Lax.
Our Elementary school teams are having fun at the beach.
2034 will be at Summer Genesis & Lax for the Cure.
2035 will be at Summer Genesis.
It’s nice for the younger teams to have a mix of tournaments. It allows for different opportunities for the entire team.
The fact that we are still talking about HOCO is such a compliment. So thank you. If you want any information, feel free to reach out!! We have some great Coaches lined up for multiple age groups and playing levels!!
2026-2027 Season is gearing up to be so much fun!!

No worries. As long as each side has more ammunition they're willing to use up for their bb guns, HoCo will continue to be in the mix here.